tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post1445025418894126844..comments2024-03-28T02:21:17.452-07:00Comments on Seattle Schools Community Forum: District Updates on Boundaries (and a Survey)Melissa Westbrookhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comBlogger88125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-28670219015687698652017-11-16T21:43:35.412-08:002017-11-16T21:43:35.412-08:00I have a 10th grader at Garfield. He didn't ta...I have a 10th grader at Garfield. He didn't take any AP classes in 9th grade. Even the kids who took Algebra 1 in 6th grade took Pre-Calc in 9th, followed by AP Calc in 10th. The only AP classes anyone he knows took in 9th grade were language classes (AP French or Japanese), and that was just a few people.<br /><br />Then in 10th, there are quite a few AP classes in play. My son is in AP World History (along with most of his friends). He is in AP Chemistry; other 10th graders take AP Bio or AP Environmental Science. So yes, for the 10th graders, I think Lincoln would need to offer a selection of AP courses, mainly sciences and languages (which would benefit this language immersion cohort that could be a great fit at Lincoln as well!).<br /><br />SusanHnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-45354095997588816202017-11-16T21:01:00.656-08:002017-11-16T21:01:00.656-08:00I assume there are some non-HCC students who take ...I assume there are some non-HCC students who take Algebra 1 at HIMS as 6th graders. Those kids would be ready for AP Calc in 9th or 10th, but they won't have the HCC pathway route open to them. How will SPS ensure they get their math needs met? Would they have to repeat a year of math at Lincoln?<br /><br />Math Error Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-70743853305814812382017-11-16T20:44:22.855-08:002017-11-16T20:44:22.855-08:00Realistically, what AP classes would SPS offer to ...Realistically, what AP classes would SPS offer to 9th/10th graders at Lincoln -without- having 11th/12th graders at the school? Anyone thinking ZERO? Yeah, quite a conundrum. Some students take AP Calc in 9th or 10th, but it's only possible because 11th and 12th graders need the class as well.<br /><br />APless<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-76067518377915916842017-11-16T14:27:36.861-08:002017-11-16T14:27:36.861-08:00Thanks Susan H & Jigsaw.
I've been tryin...Thanks Susan H & Jigsaw. <br /><br />I've been trying to keep up and it feels like there are too many ideas and they keep changing. I think every/many HS being HCC really waters down the program. But I thought that was the latest plan. All HCC kids back to their neighborhood school. That's why no HCC at Lincoln was surprising. Anyway, based on our location I'd definitely prefer to go to Ballard. <br /><br />Mag momAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-77587762959720655902017-11-16T14:20:45.530-08:002017-11-16T14:20:45.530-08:00Just curious ... what classes would Lincoln need t...Just curious ... what classes would Lincoln need to offer 9th & 10th grade HCC students? Do HCC students start taking AP classes in 9th grade? It seems short-sighted to not place HCC at Lincoln - a new school that needs to be filled - when the district could use mitigation money to offer the classes needed.<br /><br />N by NWAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-50330825046942592492017-11-16T14:01:41.746-08:002017-11-16T14:01:41.746-08:00@“Central” said: "I hope the survey they took...@“Central” said: "I hope the survey they took shows that families care about walkability and distance when it comes to high schools.” <br /><br />@ Mag mom said: "Wow. So let me get this straight. HCC cohort is getting smaller because all kids are going back to their neighborhood school, EXCEPT Lincoln?"<br /><br />Yes, traffic is terrible. But there are tradeoffs. As far as I know, any kid will be able to choose their attendance area school if proximity to home or jobs is their priority. But for decades, high school students across the city have found it worth it to travel to Garfield as the highly capable pathway school. And many kids still do that today, by choice, via metro, even from some pretty inconvenient areas. If it’s worth it, they go. <br /><br />Having any north-end pathway high school at all will be huge progress only to the extent that the north Seattle pathway(s) can actually offer something close to what Garfield has offered to students all these years. Calling any north or south Seattle high school a new HCC pathway--without actually having a critical mass of students and offering something comparable to what Garfield has historically offered--is just window dressing.<br /><br />@Mag mom, I’m not sure if you were exaggerating for effect. So, just to clarify: No changes to boundaries or to pathways are a done deal yet. Lincoln could yet be designated an HCC pathway school. But it’s neither the district’s recommendation right now nor, it would seem, the recommendation of the HCS Advisory Committee. That could change. But making every high school a pathway school is pointless. And making a lot of schools pathways schools is pointless. Lincoln could make a lot of sense as the single north-end pathway longer term, but there’s no point in having 3 north-end pathway schools plus Ingraham IB. Then again, starting Lincoln as an HCC pathway school in 2019 is problematic if it only starts with 9th and 10th graders. It's a conundrum. <br /><br />-JigsawAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-52348063603710875812017-11-16T13:50:15.540-08:002017-11-16T13:50:15.540-08:00@MagMom: no, Lincoln would not be the ONLY high sc...@MagMom: no, Lincoln would not be the ONLY high school without an HC pathway. Also Rainier Beach, Chief Sealth, Center School, Cleveland, Nova, and Hale. <br /><br />I think it would make so much more sense to keep one pathway in the South (Garfield) and make one for the North (Lincoln). It seems that would help with cohort size and also with boundaries around Lincoln.SusanHnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-18408025286469624132017-11-16T12:39:33.908-08:002017-11-16T12:39:33.908-08:00@FNH,
The poverty rate for students living in the...@FNH,<br /><br />The poverty rate for students living in the Garfield attendance area was 46% last year. See page 98 of this report http://sps.ss8.sharpschool.com/UserFiles/Servers/Server_543/File/District/Departments/Enrollment%20Planning/Reports/Annual%20Enrollment/2016-17/Section%2011.pdf<br /><br /><br />Fairmount Parent Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-74967113241226949942017-11-16T12:24:28.638-08:002017-11-16T12:24:28.638-08:00That HCSAC letter listed Lincoln as a central area...That HCSAC letter listed Lincoln as a central area school. That doesn't make any sense. Is there a water taxi over lake Union? How in the world is Lincoln "central"? The other "central" area high school is Garfield, which is by I-90 and, indeed, right in the middle of Seattle in a North/South sense. Lincoln is central in an East/West sense, but getting from anywhere in the proposed Lincoln assignment zone to Garfield is kind of insane. <br /><br />I hope the survey they took shows that families care about walkability and distance when it comes to high schools. Because people sure cared that high school was going to get out slightly later in the afternoon and that was going to wreck students' abilities to have afternoon jobs and participate in after school activities and babysit younger siblings and get their homework done. And you know what will mess with those things even worse? Trying to get to Garfield from much of the city at rush hour twice a day. Nuts!"Central"noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-58878723453505647472017-11-16T10:57:25.296-08:002017-11-16T10:57:25.296-08:00@Mag mom: you're right, Garfield doesn't w...@Mag mom: you're right, Garfield doesn't want kids bussed in and your students are being used. Lincoln should be a pathway (the) but the district staff really wants to spread out the access to advanced learning to more than one northend school. It likely will eventually have plenty of advanced classes, but they currently say it will start as a 9-10 school, so there wouldn't be enough kids for the higher level classes. Magnolia kids should go to Ballard, it's silly to send them to Lincoln or Garfield with the terrible traffic in Seattle. Not that RHS kids want to go to GHS, but with light rail their commute will be much easier than any east-west commute.<br /><br />Hard Choices Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-85908127941612196852017-11-16T10:00:47.974-08:002017-11-16T10:00:47.974-08:00Wow. So let me get this straight. HCC cohort is ge...Wow. So let me get this straight. HCC cohort is getting smaller because all kids are going back to their neighborhood school, EXCEPT Lincoln? I thought Garfield thought HCC was APParthied and wanted HCC gone? Won't they be upset kids from Magnolia are still being bussed over? And why is Lincoln the one school without HCC? This plan couldn't be more convoluted if it tried. <br /><br />Mag momAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-78325307882354361542017-11-16T09:28:56.978-08:002017-11-16T09:28:56.978-08:00@Mag Mom-- Lincoln you closer reference school wil...@Mag Mom-- Lincoln you closer reference school will not offer HC services. The current SPS proposal sends your child commuting further away to Garfield. The HCS AC proposal email posted in this thread keeps you at an HC service school (Ballard) closer to your address. However, if you want that to be the outcome I suggest you and others support it by writing SPS and the board.<br />-P Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-83633836805575852502017-11-16T09:23:57.692-08:002017-11-16T09:23:57.692-08:00@GLM-- In addition, WSHS & FHS would not be ab...@GLM-- In addition, WSHS & FHS would not be able to provide a basic education for those identified kids as defined by state law. Sorry, but there is that darn state law. Therefore, they need to first work on adding AP courses to WSHS & FHS. And yes, their lives do matter, whether you like it or not. I cannot believe you are making that analogy to having students needs met. You are making a rude analogy that does not fit the situation. These kids did nothing to you or anyone else. It is bullying behavior. I care about all kids having their needs met. So should you. <br />-caring parentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-1864206868709103512017-11-16T09:03:31.968-08:002017-11-16T09:03:31.968-08:00The 38% FRL figure at Garfield is from 2015; by 20...The 38% FRL figure at Garfield is from 2015; by 2016 it was 30%, a significant drop. I suspect my family is representative of new students actively moving into the Garfield zone vs. relying on HCC transfers - educated, affluent, with high-scoring GenEd kids enrolled under the "highly selective university" plan. The location is simply too attractive for the long-term trend to reverse, even with north end HCC students attending elsewhere. I don't think the future for Garfield is as dire as some predict.<br /><br />FNHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-34694619673489014952017-11-16T08:58:58.799-08:002017-11-16T08:58:58.799-08:00GLM I think the concern is more for Garfield. The...GLM I think the concern is more for Garfield. They will lose PTSA, music, drama and science funding. Schools are better off if the FRL size does not get too large. If HCC is reduced dramatically at Garfield, those dollars are going to flow to WSHS and FHS.<br /><br />HPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-68554825290887388022017-11-16T08:57:32.757-08:002017-11-16T08:57:32.757-08:00It looks like Magnolia gifted students would remai...It looks like Magnolia gifted students would remain at Garfield. Since the “neighborhood” high school for Magnolia is Lincoln, the HCC pathway is Garfield.<br /><br />GLMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-18626518235355496802017-11-16T08:47:03.785-08:002017-11-16T08:47:03.785-08:00What happens to Magnolia HCC students in most plan...What happens to Magnolia HCC students in most plans? I thought HCC was going to be offered at every school so I thought my kids would go to Lincoln.<br /><br />But did I misunderstand? Is Lincoln going to be the one high school without HCC?? So my kids would be assigned to Ballard??<br /><br />Mag momAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-83297644607970216062017-11-16T07:02:13.578-08:002017-11-16T07:02:13.578-08:00>>>> For better or worse, the number o...>>>> For better or worse, the number of affluent students would drop significantly, thus affecting PTSA fundraising and music, drama and science fundraising that happens at Garfield. <br /><br />What a great case, For the Record. Be sure to present it to the board. We can’t let this happen! We must cluster our resources at Garfield. We should do everything we can to make sure that our donations aren’t squandered at other high schools. Does W.SH or FHS even have a band or music program to contribute to?<br /><br />#Gifted Lives Matter<br />GLMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-65106619615677494522017-11-15T21:38:18.357-08:002017-11-15T21:38:18.357-08:00(second chunk of letter that's missing, follow...(second chunk of letter that's missing, following the chunk pasted just above)<br /><br />Proposal for Central, Southeast and Southwest<br /><br />Concern: We strongly stand by our recommendation that Garfield remain the single HC pathway school for students in the Central, South and Southwest areas and not split for several reasons: resulting disparity in number of students, as well as impacts to course offerings, cohort size, and finances.<br /><br />The splits would create a significant imbalance between the north and the south. Garfield has 428 HC students total, very similar to the potential number of HC students at Ballard or Roosevelt. Here is the current breakdown: 184 students from the Garfield area, 95 from Franklin, 41 from Rainier Beach, 32 from Chief Sealth, and 76 from West Seattle, totaling 428 students. The proposed splits would distribute HC students as such: Garfield, 184, Franklin, 146, and West Seattle, 145. This creates significantly smaller HC cohorts at these three high schools than at the two high schools in the north end, where Garfield, Franklin and West Seattle would have HC populations of 15% or less, compared to north-end HC populations of 30%.<br /><br />No guarantee of course offering parity at Franklin and West Seattle. Currently, Franklin offers 10 AP classes and West Seattle offers 12. These schools would need to significantly increase their offerings before 2019 to align with Garfield, Ballard and Roosevelt. Despite District assurances--and we do support increased advanced learning options at all high schools--limited District resources and fewer Advanced Learners at Franklin and West Seattle would not be sufficient to drive a master schedule for these courses. West Seattle parents have voiced these concerns, and Franklin faces problematic programming of repetitious Physical Science and Biology courses in 9th grade when HC students would already have taken those classes in 7th and 8th grades. This raises many questions about whether the District could guarantee that HC students at Franklin and West Seattle have the same (or similar) offerings as students at Ballard, Roosevelt and at Garfield now, as well as what the process would be to address the scenario if parity did not come to fruition:<br /><br />Would honors LA and SS options be offered in 9th grade as now at Garfield? Would Franklin require HC students to repeat Science as at Nathan Hale? Would Franklin adopt a new model, and would it be desired? What would the reduced number of HC students at Garfield mean for their ability to sustain current advanced learning offerings?<br /><br />West Seattle parents have expressed a variety of opinions about a local high school pathway. Some support a HC pathway closer to home, while others are concerned that the smaller cohort size would make it challenging to expand the number of AP offerings at West Seattle High School.<br /><br />Significant demographic changes could affect financing of Garfield activities. Currently 42% of Garfield are HC students and 38% of the school are Free-Reduced Lunch (FRL); this proposal would reduce the Garfield HC population to about 10%. For better or worse, the number of affluent students would drop significantly, thus affecting PTSA fundraising and music, drama and science fundraising that happens at Garfield. Whether the Garfield community regards these as positive changes is something that should be factored into the equation as well.<br /><br />-------<br />For the recordAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-82306851371819372792017-11-15T21:37:16.453-08:002017-11-15T21:37:16.453-08:00There's a big middle chunk of the letter missi...There's a big middle chunk of the letter missing, as pasted above. After the first section ending with "Please consider our recommendations...supporting rationale." and before the last section, beginning "Another important consideration ..."<br /><br />are two sections (must be posted in two diffferent comments, due to length):<br /> <br />Proposal for North End<br /><br />Support: The redirection of Northeast and Northwest area HC students to north-end high schools alone would dramatically reduce the number of HC students at Garfield, easing Garfield’s capacity issue and providing an equitable experience closer to home for north-end students. Selecting Ballard and Roosevelt as pathway schools makes sense and aligns with trends: Many HC eligible students already choose their neighborhood school over Garfield (129 at Ballard, 155 at Roosevelt). Pathway changes diverting north-end HC students from Garfield would add about 300 HC students to both Ballard and Roosevelt, creating cohorts of 400-500 HC students at each. This would allow for effective delivery of counseling, meet their social emotional needs, and provide robust AP and elective offerings beyond the already-robust selection of courses (16 and 18 respectively) at both high schools. <br /><br />Concern: We struggle with directing Lincoln-area students to Garfield for two reasons: commute challenges and prioritizing services closer to home. 1) The trip to the Central District is much more difficult than the trip to Ballard, particularly taking public transportation (Metro) in our city’s geography. In fact, this drives many families from Wallingford, Magnolia and Queen Anne to choose Ballard or Roosevelt over Garfield. 2) Lincoln-area families should have a north-end HC option. Under the current plan, if area HC students choose not to attend Garfield, they would be limited to a neighborhood school (Lincoln) which lacks access to the higher-level HC math and science classes they need, because Lincoln is a roll-up school with limited grades and associated classes in its first years of operation.<br /> <br />------<br />For the recordAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-12908400868983610162017-11-15T19:47:29.355-08:002017-11-15T19:47:29.355-08:00Another important consideration is the issue of un...Another important consideration is the issue of underrepresentation in the Highly Capable Cohort. For decades, the District and this Committee have wrestled with the highly problematic fact that the Highly Capable Cohort does not reflect the demographic makeup of our district either racially or socio-economically. We believe that the place to address these problems is with testing and identification and with talent development for those students who show potential but do not yet have the achievement piece. Finding solutions at the pre-K and elementary levels is expected to bring results over time. It is important that we serve the needs of every child, including the highly capable cohort. Splintering current HC south-end students into three high schools would not solve the disproportionality problem.<br /><br />For these reasons, we strongly urge the District to pause with the idea of splitting the HC students up among five high schools. The two schools in the North--Ballard and Roosevelt--already offer an array of AP courses along with robust arts programs, and the addition of more HC students at these schools would have negative impacts only if there is not capacity to accommodate them. Conversely, splitting HC students in the south across three high schools raises many questions and concerns about implementation and equity while only creating a fraction more capacity at Garfield (244 seats).<br /><br />We strongly support the increase in AP offerings at Franklin and West Seattle. The District should commit the resources and work with those schools to create those opportunities first, then, in two more years (2019) look at whether the split of SE and SW HC students to those schools in 2020 makes sense. Changes of this magnitude to the HC model should be part of a larger plan for these students. We should not be looking at High School separately from the program as a whole.<br /><br />Finally, we would like to reiterate our request for grandfathering of HC students at any of their current schools. Changes at the high-school level have significant implications for college entrance and any student or family who has committed to a particular high school should be allowed to continue down that road until graduation.<br /><br />Thank you for your consideration.<br /><br />Respectfully,<br /><br />Highly Capable Services Advisory Committee<br /><br />frayed knotAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-91078382781515423132017-11-15T19:46:41.935-08:002017-11-15T19:46:41.935-08:00Dear HCC community,
Last month the HCS AC sent an...Dear HCC community,<br /><br />Last month the HCS AC sent an email to the District and Board of Directors regarding the high school boundaries as part of the Student Assignment Plan for the 2019-20 school year. The District then shared its proposal to create five pathway schools for the Highly Capable Students.<br /><br />In response, following discussion at our November 7th HCS AC meeting and subsequent feedback, we revised our statement and sent it to the Superintendent and the Directors today in advance of any Board discussion (please see below). Final votes by the Board continue to be slated for January 2018 with implementation in Fall 2019. <br /><br />We strongly encourage the HC community to participate in the Boundary Meetings and provide immediate feedback to the District regarding any potential changes to the HC pathways. Emails can be sent to schoolboard@seattleschools.org - superintendent@seattleschools.org and growthboundaries@seattleschools.org.<br /><br />To: Superintendent Nyland and Directors<br />From: Highly Capable Services Advisory Committee<br />Date: November 15, 2017<br />Re: Proposed Highly Capable High School Pathways/Student Assignment Plan for 2019-20<br />Dear Superintendent Nyland and Directors Blanford, Burke, Geary, Harris, Pinkham, Patu, and Peters,<br />In light of the recent District proposal regarding highly capable pathways for high school and the upcoming Board vote on the Student Assignment Plan, the Highly Capable Services Advisory Committee (HCS AC) would like to voice its concerns and support for aspects of the proposed increase of the number of pathway schools to five. In particular, we:<br /><br />Understand the rationale for the selection of Ballard and Roosevelt as HC pathways schools;<br /><br />Are concerned about the selection of Lincoln attendance area students being assigned to Garfield as their pathway school;<br /><br />Recommend that Garfield remain the only pathway school for the Central, Southeast and Southwest in 2019;<br /><br />Suggest that the District first build up the AP and rigorous course offerings at Franklin and West Seattle first, then revisit the idea of making those schools HC pathway sites; and<br /><br />Urge the District to grandfather current high school students and eighth graders into their current high school or pathway.<br /><br />The HCS AC is comprised of teachers and parents at the elementary, middle and high school levels whose collective experience with highly capable students in our District spans several decades. We have reviewed the numbers of HC students in each of the proposed pathways (see attached) and considered the equity issues that currently and could potentially exist. Please consider our recommendations on the District proposals, rooted in the following analysis and supporting rationale.<br /><br />part2<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-16731039389550255052017-11-15T19:45:34.164-08:002017-11-15T19:45:34.164-08:00Dear HCC community,
Last month the HCS AC sent an...Dear HCC community,<br /><br />Last month the HCS AC sent an email to the District and Board of Directors regarding the high school boundaries as part of the Student Assignment Plan for the 2019-20 school year. The District then shared its proposal to create five pathway schools for the Highly Capable Students.<br /><br />In response, following discussion at our November 7th HCS AC meeting and subsequent feedback, we revised our statement and sent it to the Superintendent and the Directors today in advance of any Board discussion (please see below). Final votes by the Board continue to be slated for January 2018 with implementation in Fall 2019. <br /><br />We strongly encourage the HC community to participate in the Boundary Meetings and provide immediate feedback to the District regarding any potential changes to the HC pathways. Emails can be sent to schoolboard@seattleschools.org - superintendent@seattleschools.org and growthboundaries@seattleschools.org.<br /><br />To: Superintendent Nyland and Directors<br />From: Highly Capable Services Advisory Committee<br />Date: November 15, 2017<br />Re: Proposed Highly Capable High School Pathways/Student Assignment Plan for 2019-20<br />Dear Superintendent Nyland and Directors Blanford, Burke, Geary, Harris, Pinkham, Patu, and Peters,<br />In light of the recent District proposal regarding highly capable pathways for high school and the upcoming Board vote on the Student Assignment Plan, the Highly Capable Services Advisory Committee (HCS AC) would like to voice its concerns and support for aspects of the proposed increase of the number of pathway schools to five. In particular, we:<br /><br />Understand the rationale for the selection of Ballard and Roosevelt as HC pathways schools;<br /><br />Are concerned about the selection of Lincoln attendance area students being assigned to Garfield as their pathway school;<br /><br />Recommend that Garfield remain the only pathway school for the Central, Southeast and Southwest in 2019;<br /><br />Suggest that the District first build up the AP and rigorous course offerings at Franklin and West Seattle first, then revisit the idea of making those schools HC pathway sites; and<br /><br />Urge the District to grandfather current high school students and eighth graders into their current high school or pathway.<br /><br />The HCS AC is comprised of teachers and parents at the elementary, middle and high school levels whose collective experience with highly capable students in our District spans several decades. We have reviewed the numbers of HC students in each of the proposed pathways (see attached) and considered the equity issues that currently and could potentially exist. Please consider our recommendations on the District proposals, rooted in the following analysis and supporting rationale.<br /><br />Part1 <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-91024489291406994502017-11-15T18:41:07.343-08:002017-11-15T18:41:07.343-08:00I am a parent and I fully support the revised HCS ...I am a parent and I fully support the revised HCS AC recommendations for HC pathways. Ballard, Roosevelt, Garfield. Work on Franklin & W Seattle adding AP offerings prior to moving kids. The rationale for the points made sense. The data provided in the email of HC kids already attending those schools was informative. http://discussapp.blogspot.com/<br />-JKAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-24301560492261200052017-11-15T13:34:16.217-08:002017-11-15T13:34:16.217-08:00
Are they introducing pathways tonight or is that...<br /><br />Are they introducing pathways tonight or is that delayed until it goes back to the Operations committee in December? Seems odd to introduce if their survey is good until 11/27.<br /><br />Confused?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com