tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post235403496046045862..comments2024-03-18T16:51:10.406-07:00Comments on Seattle Schools Community Forum: Tuesday Open ThreadMelissa Westbrookhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-6296724139763737612019-01-21T08:41:28.151-08:002019-01-21T08:41:28.151-08:00The board members should represent all students.The board members should represent all students.BezBiku.infohttps://www.bezbiku.info/idea-bank-kody-swift-iban-bic-i-adres-do-przelewow/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-73563663706747530342018-07-06T06:39:10.854-07:002018-07-06T06:39:10.854-07:00This written article deserves the best ratingThis written article deserves the best ratingAasadlabiznesu.plhttps://aasadlabiznesu.plnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-14722663169861127912017-07-13T20:44:12.499-07:002017-07-13T20:44:12.499-07:00Well that's strange the SEAC site is gone and ...Well that's strange the SEAC site is gone and so are all the PDF files containing the meeting minutes. This is where the link used to be: http://www.seattleschools.org/families_communities/committees<br /><br />I'm not sure if they kept the minutes and where they would be stored. I believe the group has been dissolved and as you can see the website turned off.<br /><br />How convenient I think it happened when SPS switched to a new website? <br /><br />SEAAC member<br /><br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-38884949892504261442017-07-13T17:44:59.435-07:002017-07-13T17:44:59.435-07:00LBM, you can make statements like until the cows c...LBM, you can make statements like until the cows come home but Patu has a written/video record so please show us where she said these things. I'm still waiting for a single person to do that. I'm not scared of anything; I just believe in Betty's skills and abilities.<br /><br />SEAAC Member, I'll ask you. Could you provide a link to the minutes of that meeting? I'm sure something happened as several people say it did but I'd like to read what the minutes reflect.<br /><br />You can't make other people do all the work to back up your statements on a candidate.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-31201040445786001772017-07-13T16:19:30.519-07:002017-07-13T16:19:30.519-07:00I think one of the major issues with Patu is she h...I think one of the major issues with Patu is she has a hard time communicating. I don't think she meant to come off so brash and uncaring at the SEAAC but she did. It really wasn't the time or the place for her to act like she did. Storming out of the meeting didn't help either. From my understanding she has never attended another SEAAC or SPED PTSA meeting since 2014.<br /><br />Most people at the meeting where trying to get ample provisions for SPED students, she was implying the whole system was setup to screw over black students by mis identifying them as in need of services. It was really insulting to us and very embarrassing for her.<br /><br />SEAAC member<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-24870014783984741962017-07-13T16:07:59.471-07:002017-07-13T16:07:59.471-07:00JHC can't people remember these thing!
Here ...JHC can't people remember these thing!<br /><br />Here you go,<br /><br />Mary Griffin said...<br /><br /> Michael, what Betty Patu was talking about at the last SEAAC was over-identification of minorities. This is a priority of the Federal Government that boils down to requirements that OSPI needs to follow when dispersing federal money related to IDEA.<br /><br /> Seattle continues to have significant dis-proportionality in the identification of children of color in certain categories, such as students who are black are over-identified as having an intellectual disability (formerly called mental retardation) 3.06 times more than students who are not black. Even more alarmingly, students who are identified as Native American are 7.02 times more likely to be identified as intellectually disabled. The rate for all disabilities is 29.9% of students who are Native American are identified as qualifying for Special Education.<br /><br /> It can be argued that what is being identified/overidentified is poverty, but there is also good evidence that there is cultural biases, especially with giving students of color diagnosis of intellectual disability and emotional/behavioral disabilities. Labeling children as disabled when they really are not leads to unwarranted services and reduced expectations.<br /><br /> Betty may also be concerned because the five to 21-year olds, the state Special Education allocation is 93 percent of the district’s average per-student general apportionment<br /> allocation, BUT it is capped at 12.7 percent of the resident K-21 full time enrollment. The allocation for students with disabilities aged birth to 5 and not yet enrolled in kindergarten is not capped. In other words, the state provides no allocations for the percentage of students who exceed 12.7% of the K-12 population. In Seattle, the K-21 percentage is 12.87%. This amounts to a difference of 91 students that aren't funded, so about half a million dollars. There's motivation there to not over-identify minorities, too.<br /> 6/6/14, 6:46 PM <br /><br />JHCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-478247994501096292017-07-13T15:59:33.866-07:002017-07-13T15:59:33.866-07:00Sorry I wasn't really paying attention to this...Sorry I wasn't really paying attention to this thread. I can't tell you the exact date of the meeting but it was when McWilliams was still employed with SPS. There was many many comments on your blog about Patu's shocking lack of respect for SPED issues.<br /><br />Everything the women does revolves around her twisted views of racism and how every single problem in SPS is somehow caused by whites. Sometimes she makes off handed comments or won't condemn anti-white / anti-asian comments made by others at her meetings. It's a consistent pattern with Patu and over shadows what ever positive things you think she has achieved in her long 8 years on the board. <br /><br />You either have a poor memory or are simply scared to address Patu's biases out of fear your liberal supports will call you out.<br /><br />White bashing is very popular in district 7.<br /><br />LBMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-58515883126474287202017-07-13T15:58:10.451-07:002017-07-13T15:58:10.451-07:00Are you asking me, Peasy? Not my job as I'm no...Are you asking me, Peasy? Not my job as I'm not the one making the accusations. If people have evidence, then document it.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-74707802231488695492017-07-13T15:33:28.841-07:002017-07-13T15:33:28.841-07:00Why don't you go directly to the source and as...Why don't you go directly to the source and ask her (Patu) if she did attend a meeting where she said those things. To be honest I think it sounds like her, but I haven't been to one of her meetings since 2014 maybe she has changed. <br /><br />Easy peasy Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-42415357827078577442017-07-13T13:45:01.094-07:002017-07-13T13:45:01.094-07:00Interesting that people have "heard" Pat...Interesting that people have "heard" Patu say all these things but not one person can say where or when. Hmmm.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-49177600439299042372017-07-12T19:03:15.522-07:002017-07-12T19:03:15.522-07:00LBM, you have offered one example. When was that m...LBM, you have offered one example. When was that meeting so I can ask to see the minutes?Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-68447161726986403062017-07-12T17:36:37.718-07:002017-07-12T17:36:37.718-07:00"As for SPED, she said she had many conversat..."As for SPED, she said she had many conversations with Wyeth Jesse and that she believes there have been changes for the better in the program whereas before it had no real classroom structure and less learning for students in the program. She also thinks SPED programs should not be moved around at will."<br /><br /><br />I remember PATU attending one SPED PTSA meeting and at that time she was only concerned that the district was over identifying black male students for IEPs.<br /><br />She believed the district was using IEPs to move disruptive black male students out of classes and into special ed classes.<br /><br />Patu wasn't interested in any other aspect of SPED, in fact she got up and left the meeting after being ask why she wouldn't help address SPED issues.<br /><br />Patu is no friend to SPED students, her record is very clear on that.<br /><br />LBM <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-66648167987589093462017-07-12T17:16:52.048-07:002017-07-12T17:16:52.048-07:00OFFS. The entire discussion above was about how Pa...OFFS. The entire discussion above was about how Patu (purportedly) hates white people and can't possibly represent them. All I was saying is that I think she does a pretty good job. I don't think she's perfect, but who is?Eric Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-80247116427790745532017-07-12T17:06:32.284-07:002017-07-12T17:06:32.284-07:00Hold it Eric
You forgot to mention your sexual or...Hold it Eric<br /><br />You forgot to mention your sexual orientation or lack of one.<br /><br />Weaponized autism Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-8435994629142293502017-07-12T17:03:06.640-07:002017-07-12T17:03:06.640-07:00"I'm an upper middle class white guy from...<br /><br />"I'm an upper middle class white guy from the north end with a kid in HCC and I'll be voting for Patu."<br /><br />WOW, so since you're better than the rest of us we should follow your advice.<br /><br />Wait everyone the white UPPER middle class male has made his decision. <br /><br /><br />Weaponized autism Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-25773153399215774812017-07-12T16:05:38.867-07:002017-07-12T16:05:38.867-07:00"It was one of the most ignorant statements e..."It was one of the most ignorant statements ever made by a school board member. "<br /><br />Even if Patu said what you say she said, that's a bold statement given some of the crap we've seen from board members. <br /><br />I'm an upper middle class white guy from the north end with a kid in HCC and I'll be voting for Patu.Eric Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-87306615246845623882017-07-12T15:31:14.330-07:002017-07-12T15:31:14.330-07:00Unbelievable BS-- You think more deeply than the a...Unbelievable BS-- You think more deeply than the average person and I agree with you. I also think there are many kids who are White or Asian who also are not being identified, likely lower income kids especially. Low income whites and asians should have an advocate, class can get ignored in these discussions. People just make assumptions about a group as a whole based upon race & not even ethnicity either. <br /><br />However, black and some other kids of color are very "underrepresented" as opposed to "whites" and Asians in the SPS program. This underrep is also correlated with poverty, same as it would be for whites and asians. <br />-YBAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-52519533572925973902017-07-12T14:56:29.511-07:002017-07-12T14:56:29.511-07:00"her concern was that the district was not fi..."her concern was that the district was not finding all the students of color who could do well in that program"<br /><br />Really? <br /><br />Tell me is the district finding all the white children who could do well in that program.<br /><br />Unbelievable BSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-40104501559794238482017-07-12T14:54:26.358-07:002017-07-12T14:54:26.358-07:00Patu said, she believed students of color/black we...Patu said, she believed students of color/black were being over identified as SPED to remove them from the gen ed classroom. It was one of the most ignorant statements ever made by a school board member. She insinuated a wild conspiracy was being perpetrated against black students and SPS ran it's clandestine program just to remove problematic black students from the gen ed setting. <br /><br />She insulted the entire SPED community, especially the SPED teachers. "students in the program" She believe the program? there is no program, there are services. So she based her new understanding on conversations with Jesse --Give me a break. <br /><br />She has to be the most disinterested, ill informed person on the board when it come to SPED. <br /><br />SPED Parent Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-27320643596392859412017-07-12T14:36:04.756-07:002017-07-12T14:36:04.756-07:00End PC, I did talk to her. I didn't ask about ...End PC, I did talk to her. I didn't ask about white privilege because I didn't ask the other candidates. I did ask her about HCC and her concern was that the district was not finding all the students of color who could do well in that program. She would like new ways to find these students. That said, she doesn't like self-contained programs (but I note she has never made a single move to change that). <br /><br />As for SPED, she said she had many conversations with Wyeth Jesse and that she believes there have been changes for the better in the program whereas before it had no real classroom structure and less learning for students in the program. She also thinks SPED programs should not be moved around at will.<br /><br />I again call out statements that have NO backing evidence. They are an opinion and that's fine. Vote how you will on your opinion but if you don't have the time/ability/willingness to back up that opinion, then you might understand why people don't heed your words.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-21645798336067710692017-07-12T14:13:37.741-07:002017-07-12T14:13:37.741-07:00Looks like many have selective memory when it come...Looks like many have selective memory when it comes to Patu.<br /><br />Here's an idea, why don't you interview her and ask her thoughts on white privilege, HCC and SPED. <br /><br />Cut to the chase, yes?<br /><br /><br />End PC Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-91615139623173400432017-07-12T14:08:19.819-07:002017-07-12T14:08:19.819-07:00Please Retire, I reject your assertions without ac...Please Retire, I reject your assertions without actual evidence. I have been to many Board/committee meetings and have not heard this. I think that "distaste for the north end and it's (sic) schools" is not true but Betty knows the history of not as much attention paid to some areas of the south end. <br /><br />On SPED and Patu, citations, please. Where did you hear/read this?<br /><br />Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-69171473386789689152017-07-12T14:06:41.905-07:002017-07-12T14:06:41.905-07:00Why did Patu abstain on the strike vote in 2015?
...Why did Patu abstain on the strike vote in 2015?<br /><br /><i>"The vote to seek legal action was 5-1, with one abstention. The opposing vote came from Sue Peters; the abstention from Betty Patu."</i> <b> source, Seattle Times </b><br /><br />There was also some funny business around a family member being awarded a no bid contract.<br /><br />I have a hard time understanding Patu whenever she responds to complicated questions. It was sometimes very painful to watch her try and conduct the board meetings.<br /><br />I think we need a fresh look and some fresh ideas.Please Retirenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-12731689596733275092017-07-12T13:17:05.723-07:002017-07-12T13:17:05.723-07:00@Please Retire AKA End PC AKA ???
Where's you...@Please Retire AKA End PC AKA ???<br /><br />Where's your evidence Dir. Patu said any of that?<br /><br />Truth be told, it sounds like you're describing the attitude of Dir. Blanford. He displays nothing but disdain for most SPS parents, especially white parents or anyone in the north end. In that recent KUOW post he basically dismissed families in his district as racists for wanting to move off a wait list or let their kids go to school with their siblings. Instead of listening to their concerns he justified his inaction by slandering them all. If there's anyone on the school board who's shown no interest in representing ALL students it's Blanford.<br /><br /> Get RealAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-60115983859694439542017-07-12T12:20:41.055-07:002017-07-12T12:20:41.055-07:00If you are looking for a person who looks out for ...If you are looking for a person who looks out for their own then Patu is a good choice. She tends to be anti-white and anti-Asian. She emits a lot distaste for the north end and it's schools. <br /><br />If any white person on the board would behave the way Patu does they would be run out of town.<br /><br />Patu's view of special education in SPS is straight up frightening. She believes SPED is used to control or punish children of color. I believe she is unfit to continue on the board. <br /><br />Please Retirenoreply@blogger.com