tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post2892795934370132226..comments2024-03-29T02:41:52.718-07:00Comments on Seattle Schools Community Forum: Tuesday Open ThreadMelissa Westbrookhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-82790235144494008342018-01-11T18:34:29.149-08:002018-01-11T18:34:29.149-08:00I am going to be a new parent to SPS, and I'm ...I am going to be a new parent to SPS, and I'm confused about enrolling my kid for next year. On one page it says I can enroll now, "We will begin accepting 2018-19 registrations (new registrations) on Jan. 8, 2018." <br />On the same page when I try to actually go through the process, it says "We are not accepting 2018-19 applications at this time."Confusednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-63741609324804538052018-01-11T11:12:18.497-08:002018-01-11T11:12:18.497-08:00On Robert Eagle Staff: When they voted down amendm...On Robert Eagle Staff: When they voted down amendment 2 a year ago (which would have kept Greenwood elementary and Broadview Thomson-area kids slated for Whitman MS instead of Robert Eagle Staff MS), the language of the amendment was framed as moving kids BACK to Whitman (because it was relative to the underlying plan to move them TO Eagle Staff when it opened. <br /><br />I could be wrong, but it struck me that some directors—particularly those not in the north-end—may have not actually understood the nature of the amendment, whether it was making kids move or saving them from a move, and the fact that it would have created more sustainable pathways and balanced enrollment.<br /><br />I remember school board director comments before the vote along the lines of… “We don’t want to move kids unnecessarily. We can revisit next year if the school’s too crowded and move them after that.” I was like, what?! No no no. By voting against the amendment, you are changing long-standing pathways, moving actual kids, and filling Robert Eagle Staff from the start. Revisiting would mean moving kids back OUT of Eagle Staff. <br /><br />It was super clear that Robert Eagle Staff would be filled very quickly and that increasing density in the immediate neighborhood would lead to overcrowding in short order. And that doesn't even address the uncertainty and stress caused to Whitman adjusting to such a big drop in enrollment.<br /><br />SMHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-91885915944012751682018-01-11T10:21:14.625-08:002018-01-11T10:21:14.625-08:00If SPS is considering moving HCC kids out of Eagle...If SPS is considering moving HCC kids out of Eaglestaff, please give families a heads up WELL BEFORE SPS open enrollment and private school application due dates. That way, those of who want to make other plans to avoid displacing our kids mid- middle school and likely again in high school when Lincoln opens have enough time to plan. SPS crisis "planning" every year is not Excellence in Education. <br /><br />Excellence in UncertaintyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-68007109998417741772018-01-11T08:06:17.425-08:002018-01-11T08:06:17.425-08:00I was at the meeting where Director Burke said thi...I was at the meeting where Director Burke said this. It was in response to questions from the Maple Leaf Community. Maple Leaf -- part of Olympic View's attendance area -- had advocated last year not to be assigned across I-5 to Eagle Staff. The group was asking if this could be reconsidered, moving assignment back to middle schools east of I-5, and brought up how crowded Eagle Staff is on year 1 and how it's likely to get more crowded. Director Burke acknowledged this and said that if something needs to be done down the road, here are three possible ways dealing with it. It was all very theoretical, and given everything going on with the high school boundaries and open enrollment about to start I think it's highly unlikely any changes would happen for next school year.<br /><br />-KP<br /><br />P.S. IMHO, they completely messed up last year on this. The Board seemed so anxious to open Eagle Staff successfully, and there were all these budget issues at play, that they didn't listen to the community and allowed staff to go ahead with a plan that overfilled it.KPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-68188239474708291452018-01-11T07:44:11.873-08:002018-01-11T07:44:11.873-08:00Didn't a lot of us say something along the lin...Didn't a lot of us say something along the lines of "hey, if you are going to also split HCC to Eaglestaff, you should shrink the boundary you drew before you knew HCC was going to be placed there"???<br /><br />oopsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-81434673142739941112018-01-11T07:09:59.809-08:002018-01-11T07:09:59.809-08:00“Director Burke indicated that Eagle Staff may soo...“Director Burke indicated that Eagle Staff may soon be over capacity, and that staff is considering the following 3 options: (1) Moving HCC out of Eagle Staff; (2) adding portables to Eagle Staff; or (3) changing the boundaries for Eagle Staff.”<br /><br />If moved out of Eaglestaff, where will the HCC middle school kids go? And when? Makes me wonder about Whitman being about 400 seats under its full 1000 capacity. Aren’t there about 400 HCC kids between REMS and HIMS? <br /><br />Bueller Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-9431352641783208342018-01-11T07:06:06.913-08:002018-01-11T07:06:06.913-08:00Yep, especially since the capacity problems at Eag...Yep, especially since the capacity problems at Eagle Staff were completely predictable from the start. It would have made more sense to address this last year before opening the school.Zella917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-19246387353493252902018-01-11T00:31:15.938-08:002018-01-11T00:31:15.938-08:00Director Burke indicated that Eagle Staff may soon...Director Burke indicated that Eagle Staff may soon be over capacity, and that staff is considering the following 3 options: <b>(1) Moving HCC out of Eagle Staff; (2) adding portables to Eagle Staff; or (3) changing the boundaries for Eagle Staff.</b><br /><br />Wait...what? Six months in and already threatening to change the boundaries or move out HCC?? Seems like if (1) or (3) are going to happen for this coming fall, there are going to be some angry parents. Owlernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-89675967011355779552018-01-10T20:00:37.559-08:002018-01-10T20:00:37.559-08:00Thank you!!!
Mag momThank you!!!<br /><br />Mag momAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-75422200334096539892018-01-10T16:33:56.944-08:002018-01-10T16:33:56.944-08:00@ Mag Mom,
I am not positive this is the entire ...@ Mag Mom, <br /><br />I am not positive this is the entire list but the bones are pretty close. <br /><br /><br />04-05 closure round <br />MLK closed and later sold. The MLK names was moved to another building. <br />For capacity reasons, rather than close, multiple schools were turned into K-8s for capacity reasons. <br />Broadview Thompson, Madronna, Pathfinder, Orca, and possibly a few more. <br /><br />06-07 closure round<br />Viewlands (reopened)<br />Rainier View (reopened)<br />Fairmount Park (reopened)<br />there was a big push to close Sacajawea in this round but Sac was taken off the list at the last minute. <br />there was a big push to close a central area school but I don't think one was closed. <br /><br /><br />08-09<br />TT Minor (now the world school)<br />Nova (program moved to Meany, building closed and building reopened and Nova returned to Nova)<br />Queen Anne Elementary (World School moved from QAE, building closed one year, reopened as elementary school)<br />Meany Middle School (closed to become the home of Nova and World School, Meany reopened and Nova returned to Nova and World School to TT Minor)<br />Genesse Hill (building closed - Pathfinder moved to Cooper - building reopened as new Schmitz park)<br /><br /><br /><br />kelliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01322661098626555834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-44638950568736700522018-01-10T16:00:06.649-08:002018-01-10T16:00:06.649-08:00Go Sheep!
o my
Go Sheep!<br /><br />o my<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-71226387691912763862018-01-10T10:06:47.214-08:002018-01-10T10:06:47.214-08:00There has been some community comment regarding th...<i>There has been some community comment regarding the Ingraham Rams mascot and whether a change should be made to a gender-neutral mascot. Attached information explains the history of the mascot; school is named for the first SPS school superintendent who was an avid mountaineer; the “rams” mascot was selected by the students.</i><br /><br />From the Friday Memo. You have got to be kidding me. <br /><br />no words<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-75552515630618713522018-01-10T09:23:43.165-08:002018-01-10T09:23:43.165-08:00Mag Mom, I was actually on the committee that was ...Mag Mom, I was actually on the committee that was charged with that work and I'd have to go back and check my records.<br /><br />But to your last question, most were closed for a period of time but now, I don't think there is a single empty school building (the district has other property that is leased). The district did find itself with some issues over those closures such as Viewlands having their copper plumbing ripped out and taken by thieves. That cost a lot to redo.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-24864609198428115362018-01-10T08:42:52.857-08:002018-01-10T08:42:52.857-08:00Tt minor is open again as ELL HS.
MLK was sold t...Tt minor is open again as ELL HS. <br /><br />MLK was sold to some community group. <br /><br />Haters hate-66Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-710736123915963582018-01-10T08:02:00.727-08:002018-01-10T08:02:00.727-08:00Ugh! Autocorrect you're killing me!! (I should...Ugh! Autocorrect you're killing me!! (I should post while on my phone.)<br /><br />Should say something like... Were some of the closed schools buildings reused for different programs so it looks like schools weren't closed?<br /><br />Mag momAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-32626635380643544402018-01-10T07:58:51.190-08:002018-01-10T07:58:51.190-08:00This is way off topic, but would anyone with any i...This is way off topic, but would anyone with any institutional memory please list the schools that were closed almost 10 years ago? <br /><br />And we're schools closed the. The building ms reused for different programs (so it looks like they weren't closed?) <br /><br />Thanks!!!<br /><br />Mag momAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-33171474190029794352018-01-10T07:47:58.571-08:002018-01-10T07:47:58.571-08:00@ FIP, "nowhere else in the world does a scho...@ FIP, "nowhere else in the world does a school run the IB Diploma Program in 10th grade - it is universally an 11th and 12th grade program." Really? Wasn't our program supposed to modeled on Interlake's?<br /><br />Looks to me like they do IB in 10/11.<br />http://www.bsd405.org/interlake/2016/01/gifted-high-school-program-information/<br /><br />But that's not the issue. It's the district's program, so they should do what they said. Or, if they eliminate it, they should find a way for HCC students to get a 4-year sequence of math within the regular IB sequence that doesn't result in having to repeat material.<br /><br />all typesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-43423109401590591522018-01-10T07:34:31.611-08:002018-01-10T07:34:31.611-08:00@FIP, really? It's the district's program....@FIP, really? It's the district's program. They set it up. They set it up as a 4 year pathway. Are you suggesting it's unreasonable for students to expect 4 sequential years of math, science and LA/SS? Once again, the district created the program, and it certainly wasn't planned as a "3 years then you need to go" program. If that's what it is now, officially, then they need to be totally upfront with families about it. That's the real issue. <br /><br />no guaranteesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-68339930230883875542018-01-10T00:42:41.970-08:002018-01-10T00:42:41.970-08:00There was a meeting tonight at Olympic View mostly...There was a meeting tonight at Olympic View mostly regarding HS boundaries, but several parents asked about capacity issues at Eagle Staff. The issuing being that Licton Springs (which is included in the building) is growing, and middle school attendance is also growing.<br /><br />Director Burke indicated that Eagle Staff may soon be over capacity, and that staff is considering the following 3 options: (1) Moving HCC out of Eagle Staff; (2) adding portables to Eagle Staff; or (3) changing the boundaries for Eagle Staff.<br /><br />Only last year, the concern was raised that the projections for Eagle Staff showed that it was on a path to being overcrowded.<br /><br />NE Parentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-85625731020528686702018-01-09T21:04:10.079-08:002018-01-09T21:04:10.079-08:00@no guarantees I don't think it's reasonab...@no guarantees I don't think it's reasonable to expect Ingraham to offer a 4th year for HCC students following IBX. If a student is ready for IB in 10th and 11th grade (nowhere else in the world does a school run the IB Diploma Program in 10th grade - it is universally an 11th and 12th grade program), then they should make a plan to graduate early and go to college, to take a gap year, to study abroad, or to do some other non-traditional program. <br /><br />Future Ingraham ParentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-55303790808630248232018-01-09T20:29:06.354-08:002018-01-09T20:29:06.354-08:00It’s Bagley not Green Lake that will be at John Ma...It’s Bagley not Green Lake that will be at John Marshall during their remodel.<br /><br />-GLPGLPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-86092160016302928882018-01-09T18:26:53.395-08:002018-01-09T18:26:53.395-08:00Parent, next year QAE is at John Marshall, and the...Parent, next year QAE is at John Marshall, and the following year Greenlake will be. Both schools have major renovations and expansions planned. <br />TS<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-19882922836575386162018-01-09T15:45:52.598-08:002018-01-09T15:45:52.598-08:00What is the status of John Marshall? Interim site ...What is the status of John Marshall? Interim site only? <br /><br />-parent<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-40327241524673762582018-01-09T15:01:52.900-08:002018-01-09T15:01:52.900-08:00@North of 85th Yes, we were in that HC split camp....@North of 85th Yes, we were in that HC split camp. Whitman also had room and HIMS had no room so that's probably why those Whitman families got to remain. Also, Whitman and Burke and board members were worried about Whitman's enrollment being high enough. But thank you for the support. It is a shame kids get the bad end of the stick with capacity issues.<br /><br />I also agree with Eric & Kellie. Any geo-split will be applied equally across all capacity constrained schools and programs. So that includes Garfield. The SPS statement about Grandfathering current 8th at their pathway school (Garfield) was based upon an old plan. <br />split enoughAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-18834276542746652882018-01-09T15:01:00.762-08:002018-01-09T15:01:00.762-08:00@ North of 85th,
I'm happy to learn that man...@ North of 85th, <br /><br />I'm happy to learn that many of the 8th graders were eventually returned to Whitman, but the point still stands. That was a lot of drama that ultimately did more damage than anything else. <br /><br />The "stated reason" for not enrolling Whitman was the "staffing capacity" of 600, despite a physical capacity of nearly 1,000. Staff staunchly defended this staffing capacity. Whitman's Oct 1 enrollment count was 566, significantly below the "staffing capacity." <br /><br />These numbers strongly suggest that many families simply left the district, rather than play these games. Staff just got this one wrong, plain and simple and it will haunt the Lincoln process. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />kelliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01322661098626555834noreply@blogger.com