tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post3524347495729277118..comments2024-03-28T02:21:17.452-07:00Comments on Seattle Schools Community Forum: Trayvon MartinMelissa Westbrookhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-46491999945510690832012-03-27T08:28:00.312-07:002012-03-27T08:28:00.312-07:00reader, do you know how many black kids are in the...reader, do you know how many black kids are in the Thurgood Marshall APP? I don't think there have ever been more than a handful at any site. <br /><br />I've long wondered if it's a combination of factors-not enough recruiting, parents who don't want their kids to be tokens, parents who want their kids closer to home, AL black kids going private, and other factors. I think institutional racism does play a part though. How can it not? look at all the comments on just this one blog about the "struggling" kids when South parents have pointed out more than a few times that not ALL of them fit that label.<br /><br />curiousAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-7601581161825699312012-03-27T03:48:40.098-07:002012-03-27T03:48:40.098-07:00Lowell@Lincoln has not one black student. Not one...Lowell@Lincoln has not one black student. Not one. Is that "exploitative"? It's just a fact. Students labeled as "MR" are overwhelmingly black. Also, not exploitative, just a fact. So, as long as we hold beliefs like this - what do we expect the end result to be?<br /><br />-readerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-25870813774613103122012-03-26T22:56:28.955-07:002012-03-26T22:56:28.955-07:00reader, you are trying to too hard.
That's a...reader, you are trying to too hard. <br /><br />That's a stretch and frankly exploitative of a tragedy. <br />Please make your argument against advanced learning elsewhere.<br /><br />EnoughAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-49031825836252906332012-03-26T19:52:36.380-07:002012-03-26T19:52:36.380-07:00Reader, show me where the racially segregaated adv...Reader, show me where the racially segregaated advanced learning programs are? Please do. Show me intervention programs targeting minority students with inferior education? Please do. Where is it at? Whittier, S. Shore, Lawton, Laurelhurst, Wedgwood, Aki, Mercer, Whitman, Eckstein, W. Seattle????? Or is this another rehash of segregation and elitist argument over AL again. Or is this about segregation of neighborhood schools? I'm mystified at your take away of racism from a boy's death.<br /><br />-another readerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-48152190458836188062012-03-26T16:24:13.374-07:002012-03-26T16:24:13.374-07:00Thanks Trish,
It's nearly impossible to deny ...Thanks Trish,<br /><br />It's nearly impossible to deny racism when we see a case like Trayvon Martin. But you find many more subtle points of racism everywhere, starting with racially segregated advanced learning programs, complete with racially based testing and expensive pay for admissions testing. Juxaposed to that - we have highly disproportionate special education programs and the often advocated for - "intervention" programs targeting minority students with inferior education. If we are to look racism straight in the eye - that all needs to be looked at more deeply than it currently is.<br /><br />-readerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-65104987901620269212012-03-26T15:18:28.959-07:002012-03-26T15:18:28.959-07:00Cenk at TYT Network breaks it down for you – stand...Cenk at TYT Network breaks it down for you – stand your ground laws and racisim and Koch Brothers/ALEC – March 24, 2012<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nrvg--3PL7w<br /><br />24 states with stand your ground laws<br /><br />http://motherjones.com/mojo/2012/03/nra-trayvon-martin<br /><br />-JC.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-13292741324573645452012-03-25T15:12:23.894-07:002012-03-25T15:12:23.894-07:00If we as a society are ever going to heal from rac...If we as a society are ever going to heal from racial tensions, we need to look racism straight in the eye and have an honest dialog about it. <br /><br />Here in the PNW, we have the illusion of inclusion. We don't really talk about race, we talk around it. We like to believe that every child of color has the same opportunity as every white child. We like to believe racism rears its ugly head every once in a while.<br /><br />On this blog I've seen many posts that actually try to deny there's racism in the classroom.<br /><br />Wake up please! <br /><br />I personally deal with racism daily. I am around people every day who swear they are not racist until that one thing happens that reveals either their ignorance or their bigotry.<br /><br />I worry that my 2 beautiful black boys will not outlive me. I know that when they become teens, they will be seen in a completely different light. It won't matter how educated they are, what family they come from, how neatly dressed they are or how polite they are. They will be a N***** to somebody out there who will be all to happy to remind them of that.<br /><br />The sooner we all recognize this, the faster we can start truly healing and ridding our country of hateful people.<br /><br />Check out this <a href="http://diversityinc.com/ask-the-white-guy/ask-the-white-guy-why-is-trayvon-a-white-on-black-crime/?utm_source=Genius&utm_campaign=newsletterLuke&utm_medium=DI&utm_content=2012-03-23&mgs1=62db7ogoYx" rel="nofollow">great article from Diversity Inc. Magazine</a>. There's also a link within the article that's has more details.Trish Millines Dzikohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03972948764345695622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-28414030662208776692012-03-25T11:18:14.909-07:002012-03-25T11:18:14.909-07:00Rivera is an idiot. This is racism.
My son was we...Rivera is an idiot. This is racism.<br /><br />My son was wearing a hoodie 10 years ago. It's ubiquitous clothing for most young people no matter their skin color. Teens are teens until the police profile them.<br /><br />10 year ago my son was walking home with friends when they pulled over by SPD in Wallingford. All of them were slammed against the patrol car and given a warning. I had the talk with the other parents and our boys. One conclusion. It helped that my teen looks Irish. He probably saved his friends who are Filipino from harsher treatment. From that day all of us feared for our boys. Mine was just roughed up. For his friends it could've been worse. If we were living in Lake City or the Valley, worse can be jail or being shot in the back. <br /><br />Mr WhiteAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-19059151579692596082012-03-25T10:16:13.728-07:002012-03-25T10:16:13.728-07:00Melissa said: "But if only Mr. Zimmerman, as ...Melissa said: "But if only Mr. Zimmerman, as the adult, had said, "Hi, I'm with the neighborhood watch group. Where are you going tonight, young man?"<br /><br />Just want to point out that Zimmerman had no authority as a neighborhood watch guy. He could ask Trayvon this question and it would be up to Trayvon if he wanted to answer. <br /><br />One acceptable answer would have been "None of your business!!"<br /><br />and would Zimmerman ask a white teen where he was going or just assume he belonged. we all know the answer to that.<br /><br />foroccupyingjscAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-23906383614193773782012-03-25T09:17:07.669-07:002012-03-25T09:17:07.669-07:00And let's remember that this was NOT a police ...And let's remember that this was NOT a police stop. This was a police-wannabe self-appointed neighborhood watch guy who decided to ignore REAL law-enforcement advice to stay in his car and not follow Trayvon. There was nothing Trayvon SHOULD have had to do regarding a nosy, stereotyping neighborhood guy. He had the right to walk to the store without suspicion.<br /><br />I have a (white) son the same exact age as his black cousin. As teens they hung out together and more than a few times his cousin would be subjected to suspicion while he was not, even though they were together, doing the same thing. It's absolutely about race. <br /><br />"Trayvon=Emmett Till" is a poster I saw yesterday. I'd have to agree.<br /><br />TiredAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-71536771195415032142012-03-25T09:09:44.977-07:002012-03-25T09:09:44.977-07:00The thing that infuriates me about the hoodie meme...The thing that infuriates me about the hoodie meme is that even if it weren't so offensive, "don't wear a hoodie so you don't scare the white people" has nothing to do with what happened to Trayvon Martin. Zimmerman has been nice enough to leave a 911 transcript paper trail of what kinds of black people he thought looked suspicious. They were wearing tank tops. They had short hair, which suggests a certain lack of hoodie. What they had in common was not the oh-so-menacing hoodiewear common to hipsters, elementary school students, and soccer moms alike, but the fact that they were black and male.djhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01720927162286657378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-49277628133201305132012-03-25T07:42:08.808-07:002012-03-25T07:42:08.808-07:00Charlie,
Overaggressive police have always been a...Charlie,<br /><br />Overaggressive police have always been an issue--there are certainly cases to back this up. I have personally experienced such <br />individuals in uniform.<br /><br />The main issue in this case is the targeting of black and latino boys by law enforcement and pretend law enforcement. Google Cornel West for more information.<br /><br />Focusing on a generalized problem minimizes the injustice directed at this targeted group. Until we effectively identify and admit the problem--black and latino males are targets--we won't begin to have a solution.<br /><br />--enough alreadyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-38206635646352796142012-03-25T07:26:42.913-07:002012-03-25T07:26:42.913-07:00Rocky Balboa wore a hoodie. I have a hoodie and we...Rocky Balboa wore a hoodie. I have a hoodie and wear it sometimes. It's not the hoodie.<br /><br />And it's not just black and latino boys. This "talk" was part of driver's education when I grew up in the late seventies in L.A. There was a part of the class which was essentially "How to survive a police stop".<br /><br />Yes, this was L.A. where the police were notoriously violent ("Bang! Bang! - Police!") but the rules apply everywhere.Charlie Mashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17173903762962067277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-49077011618082961152012-03-25T06:53:25.532-07:002012-03-25T06:53:25.532-07:00This is about racism--particularly against black a...This is about racism--particularly against black and latino males.<br /><br />This is not about white parents with teenagers. They have what is called the talk--staying respectful to avoid trouble.<br /><br />Black and Latino parents have to have "The Talk"--how to help your child stay alive.<br /><br />Let's not feel the pain to the point where the racism that is the central issue of this case becomes a side issue.<br /><br />Look at the statistics. Stay real.<br /><br />--enough alreadyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-44715767576833033782012-03-24T23:15:07.379-07:002012-03-24T23:15:07.379-07:00I appreciate the post on this. I hope many of you...I appreciate the post on this. I hope many of you will come out tomorrow to speak out against this continuing atrocity. How can we be silent when something like this occurs?<br /><br />If this was a white teen in a hoodie then no I absolutely don't think he would have been shot. <br /><br />this is way more about racism than ageism. hard to tease that apart with young black males though because the biases, the hatred, when young and black is combined is exponential in my opinion.<br /><br />this is about racism. and not just by Zimmerman. by the whole damn system. it's not about clothing.<br /><br />unjust, heartbreaking, and infuriating beyond words.<br /><br />rest in peace, Trayvon.<br /><br />foroccupyingjscAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-31783174262224648722012-03-24T19:52:48.382-07:002012-03-24T19:52:48.382-07:00Hoodies are ubiquitous clothing in the PNW. Even m...Hoodies are ubiquitous clothing in the PNW. Even my 7 year old wears a hoodie. Look around, they are everywhere. What a stupid comment by Rivera.<br /><br />AnnAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-524705502318700472012-03-24T16:22:41.114-07:002012-03-24T16:22:41.114-07:00Thank you for writing this and spreading the word ...Thank you for writing this and spreading the word about tomorrow's events. This morning my husband (who is African-American) and I had an emotional talk that involved an admittance that we are relieved to have daughters and no sons for this very reason. They too have been given The Talk, although it is of a different nature. <br /><br />Seattle momAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com