tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post389984911813643419..comments2024-03-28T02:21:17.452-07:00Comments on Seattle Schools Community Forum: Publicola Weighs in on School Board CandidatesMelissa Westbrookhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-59873471120067333902011-08-16T09:39:53.078-07:002011-08-16T09:39:53.078-07:00angry is easy; it's getting things done with p...<i>angry is easy; it's getting things done with people who don't necessarily agree with you that's hard - and the latter is what board work is, not the former.</i><br /><br />I agree entirely. And while Charlie feels that people will change to fit their role, I'm not so sure. Maybe a little.<br /><br />If there were no other quality candidates in this race I would choose Kate in a heartbeat, but in my opinion Jack Whelan is also a very strong candidate without the baggage. I'll back whoever is the challenger in any case, be it Kate, Jack or Mark. We'll see tonight who gets that opportunity.none1111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-8595744289104019562011-08-15T20:01:40.471-07:002011-08-15T20:01:40.471-07:00to "as angry as kate martin"
angry is e...to "as angry as kate martin"<br /><br />angry is easy; it's getting things done with people who don't necessarily agree with you that's hard - and the latter is what board work is, not the former.momsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10589728845018669169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-12307208626525194312011-08-15T14:55:47.531-07:002011-08-15T14:55:47.531-07:00RE angry Kate Martin against monied incumbents:
w...RE angry Kate Martin against monied incumbents:<br /><br />well... where is all this money coming from? why?<br /><br />http://www.truth-out.org/why-do-koch-brothers-want-end-public-education-video/1313431143<br /><br />I'm with Kate.<br /><br />-JC.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-78562780210330799382011-08-14T18:58:46.444-07:002011-08-14T18:58:46.444-07:00In this particular election, if you're not ang...In this particular election, if you're not angry, you haven't been paying attention...<br /><br />--As "angry" as Kate MartinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-19661984193938520202011-08-13T15:55:00.821-07:002011-08-13T15:55:00.821-07:00It was somewhere in '94, when I was 34, that I...It was somewhere in '94, when I was 34, that I first saw this "angry" thing used in the white collar world, I was a student government member at North Seattle Community College. Wow. <br /><br />Some background. <br /><br />Part of 1/3 of my 3 families growing up were quieter - many of the rest were into raising the roof while having a good time. <br /><br />In 2nd and 3rd grade my recently divorced mother moved us to a new apartment. There was a low income project on the way to the new school, and for those 2 years, my younger brother and I got chased home and got into I don't know how many fights. I suppose those kids were "angry" - when you got nothing, you fight, literally, over everything. <br /><br />We moved back to the Highlands of Holyoke, MA., to get away from that dimension of project life. This was the end of the era where middle and high schools always had some guys in the coaching staff who'd been in the Marines or Air born or played college football. "Angry" had ... an outlet. There were fights, and of the fighters there were only a few kids who had some serious wiring problems. "Angry" sounds so bougie - how about "scary" for a description? <br /><br />I was a cook in Boston in the 80's. The rise of MADD and AIDS and Phil Donoghue and eat fiber and stress awareness and ... meant that in professional kitchens people might yell a bit, but, any extended Hell's Kitchen insults also meant you'd be fired. <br /><br />From late '89 to appx. '93, I cooked on 9? different fishing and tug boats in Alaska. There were definitely people working on those boats who had some serious wiring problems. "Angry" sounds so bougie - how about "scary" for a label?<br /> <br />End Background.<br /><br />Any-hoo, I don't remember the particulars of whatever happened at North Seattle Community College in 1994. I just remember hearing people throw around the "angry" label more than once and I thought ... "What are they talking about?". In the year I was there it seemed that anyone with a pulse or an opinion or an ability to ask yes or no questions risked being labelled "angry" by the docile, timid trembling white collar gossip crowd. <br /><br />Does anyone remember those whacked D.C. snipers in 2002? Like many of the garden variety nut jobs who pop onto the scene too frequently, when reporting on the backgrounds of these nut jobs, the press typically uses words like "angry" when talking about the nut jobs. Clearly, something is wrong with the wiring to go running around shooting people. <br /><br />Any-hoo #2, I've been in the white collar world for the last 15++ years. The use of the "angry" thing to me is very mathematical. <br /><br />IF you ask questions which have yes or no answers, IF you like to establish deadlines and attain deadlines, IF your conversation style is NOT some kind of syrupy Sesame Street Tele Tubby Happy Happy chatter, IF you don't express yourself in some dilettantish effete euphemism and obfuscation ... THEN you might be "angry" !!<br /><br />Someday I'll en-lite-en all with my grand theory of $ocial cla$$ and speaking in dilettantish effete euphemism.<br /><br />My definition of "angry" is still stuck with - if I was cutting down an alley from the grocery store, or if I was on a dark part of the boat in 15 foot seas in the dark of night, and I ran into this person, would my knees shake from being alone with a nut job? <br /><br />I've NEVER met that kind of angry in my white collar world - schools, software, teaching, ...<br /><br />I've met Kate. She gets to the point and doesn't waste my time. Kate will push to get things done. Getting things done means not going along to get along all the time, and it means rocking the boat sometimes. Yawn. <br /><br />I'm also 51, and I've missed all the "accomplishments" of the don't rock the boat crowd these last 30 years - maybe they happened during my time in Alaska, working with the nuts of the Craziest Catch?<br /><br />R. MurphyMathTeacher42https://www.blogger.com/profile/07157900103432833615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-73440915499278297212011-08-13T10:39:00.316-07:002011-08-13T10:39:00.316-07:00for real fair and balanced - i've only ever se...for real fair and balanced - i've only ever seen kate martin angry - about streets, sidewalks, math, you name it - and i've seen her a fair amount over the years. she's great when you agree with her, but no holds barred/scorched earth when she doesn't. Ask SDOT, city council, mayor, neighborhood groups.<br /><br />even if she had the right experience for the board, she clearly doesn't have the temperament.<br /><br />mom of 4 in spsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-31375809478376194492011-08-11T21:53:05.070-07:002011-08-11T21:53:05.070-07:00And I completely overlooked that they put Jack Whe...And I completely overlooked that they put Jack Whelan and Terrance Menage in the wrong race. Wrong on their part, wrong on mine.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12588239576000641336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-42013645155321335402011-08-11T19:28:04.984-07:002011-08-11T19:28:04.984-07:00Josh and Erica, for their deep desires to be polit...Josh and Erica, for their deep desires to be politicos, can't really find it with both hands. They seem to be judiciously overlooking the past 12 months. Never mind the past four years.WenDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07754473793580185814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-67708089164715890572011-08-11T18:32:10.029-07:002011-08-11T18:32:10.029-07:00the writers at Publicola have consistently slanted...the writers at Publicola have consistently slanted their reporting to fit with the framing of the eDeform crowd. <br /><br />it is obvious that the audience their most concerned with works at 500 5th Ave. North, Seattle. <br /><br />ComfortTheComfortableAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-68161240260551498942011-08-11T17:12:59.556-07:002011-08-11T17:12:59.556-07:00I'm glad Joy Anderson got deserved credit. Th...I'm glad Joy Anderson got deserved credit. They rightfully stated that Kate Martin is angry about moneyed incumbents, not angry in general.<br /><br />--for real fair and balancedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com