tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post3981094406730398174..comments2024-03-28T02:21:17.452-07:00Comments on Seattle Schools Community Forum: Oversight meeting Teaching and Learning IIMelissa Westbrookhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-86066755069119846772016-04-19T19:00:48.785-07:002016-04-19T19:00:48.785-07:00As I have often said, I don't know the truth; ...As I have often said, I don't know the truth; I only know what the district tells me. The CSIPs that are on the web page are the only CSIPs I know about and they are the only CSIPs the District is telling me about.Charlie Mashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17173903762962067277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-78618113347818729272016-04-19T14:33:41.062-07:002016-04-19T14:33:41.062-07:00As I discovered last time I looked into CSIPS, the...As I discovered last time I looked into CSIPS, the district doesn't keep current ones on their website. So yes the list you looked at may have been incomplete but that doesn't mean the schools didn't submit them. The only way to check is to verify with someone live. <br /><br />But then once you start looking, you also realize the CSIP framework is very narrowly defined by measurable goals i.e. test scores. So its just not an interesting lever if you're concerned with the quality of services provided. <br /><br />I think AL wants more out of this federal requirement than its designed for or the rest of the district is willing to give.<br /><br /><br />Benjamin Leishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10974191081762367425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-19930706529249056312016-04-19T14:22:52.987-07:002016-04-19T14:22:52.987-07:00New to SPS, yes,the HC committee group would be th...New to SPS, yes,the HC committee group would be the best. Charlie and I (and several others) tried to start a Spectrum group but that didn't work. <br /><br />You could ask that committee if each school has its own group.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-2493755411647335522016-04-19T13:54:53.331-07:002016-04-19T13:54:53.331-07:00Charlie,
We're new to SPS, and my child will ...Charlie,<br /><br />We're new to SPS, and my child will be enrolled in the 1st grade HCC program next year. I'm trying to understand how to best direct my advanced learning advocacy efforts, and I'm looking for a group who is already involved in district-level advocacy.<br /> <br />Is the "Highly Capable Services Advisory Committee/ Parent reps" the group that I should contact?<br /><br />If not, what other group exists? From what I've read, it seems like most people are advocating at an individual level since advanced learning support is defined at a building level by the principal and teachers.<br /><br />- New to SPSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-56877448634234475792016-04-19T13:49:45.288-07:002016-04-19T13:49:45.288-07:00The District is proposing a LOT of change all at o...The District is proposing a LOT of change all at once and none of it with any precedent.<br /><br />1. They are in year four of their three-year MTSS implementation with six years to go. They cannot implement MTSS, yet they are relying on MTSS to provide all kinds of services for students.<br /><br />2. They are relying on teachers in general education classrooms to provide differentiated instruction for AL and HC students without providing those teachers with the resources (time, lessons, and more) necessary for differentiation.<br /><br />3. They are relying on teachers in general education classrooms to provide differentiated instruction for AL and HC students despite the fact that a number of the teachers are unwilling to do it even if they had the resources.<br /><br />4. They expect student families to believe that their advanced learners and HC students are being served in general education classrooms despite a total lack of evidence that any such thing is happening.<br /><br />5. They talk about aligning the AL and HC instruction but have nothing to align it with. There is no set of Standards or academic performance expectations for AL or HC students and they refuse to produce one.Charlie Mashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17173903762962067277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-90966262023483143012016-04-19T13:10:23.028-07:002016-04-19T13:10:23.028-07:00I just really hate this idea that HC services are ...I just really hate this idea that HC services are going to be provided in schools that are traditionally skeptical or hostile toward air-quoted "gifted" students. It irks me more to see certain schools incorporate it into their CSIP knowing what a load of BS it is.<br /><br />2xAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-52524340744796729832016-04-19T13:07:29.504-07:002016-04-19T13:07:29.504-07:00Then what is the point of having families apply to...Then what is the point of having families apply to spectrum programs this year? It's a waste of your first choice in open enrollment and a chance to change schools.<br />Such a hot mess.<br /><br />- Watering it downAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-82264136063135408732016-04-19T12:25:01.477-07:002016-04-19T12:25:01.477-07:00It's pretty clear where this is going.
Advanc...It's pretty clear where this is going.<br /><br />Advanced learning will shift to focus exclusively on HC and HCC at that. ALO/Spectrum are going away. There won't be any more testing for Spectrum eligibility, no more program, it's going away completely. Instead, students working beyond Standards will be found and served through MTSS. Which, of course, means that they will all be served with "differentiated instruction" in general education classrooms. This will be their plan and they will implement it districtwide immediately despite any single school where this can be shown to have worked.Charlie Mashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17173903762962067277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-29641801446499842092016-04-19T12:24:09.328-07:002016-04-19T12:24:09.328-07:00Charlie, your link is still live but the one at th...Charlie, your link is still live but the one at the Board page is not. Hmm.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-18019452028123118582016-04-19T12:17:45.940-07:002016-04-19T12:17:45.940-07:00@Watering it down, all schools will be required to...@Watering it down, all schools will be required to provide Advanced Learning. This will be done as a Tier 2 curriculum in MTSS. That's what is replacing Spectrum and ALO.<br /><br />The problem with that plan, of course, is that there is no way to confirm that it is happening and there is no record of it having ever happened before.Charlie Mashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17173903762962067277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-37835698814161001012016-04-19T12:17:34.331-07:002016-04-19T12:17:34.331-07:00I believe Mr. Martin is out on a sick leave and it...I believe Mr. Martin is out on a sick leave and it seems unclear when he may return.<br /><br />Yes to all that Charlie has said. <br /><br />"A plan for all schools to offer AL?" We've heard that before.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-14074048596353470792016-04-19T12:15:35.481-07:002016-04-19T12:15:35.481-07:00According to a admissions/enrollment staff member,...According to a admissions/enrollment staff member, there is a plan for all schools to offer Advanced Learning programs/services. She said it was not set in stone yet, but that was the plan. This was in response to my inquiry about waitlists for Spectrum placement. <br />Will this just be in class differentiation?<br /><br />-Watering it down Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-27010214091673515902016-04-19T11:42:37.824-07:002016-04-19T11:42:37.824-07:00If the AL Supervisor position shows 'open'...If the AL Supervisor position shows 'open' does that mean Stephen Martin is gone? Anyone know? If so another setback for AL. <br /><br />AL WonderingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com