tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post4042343018776357299..comments2024-03-29T02:41:52.718-07:00Comments on Seattle Schools Community Forum: Growth Boundaries QuestionsMelissa Westbrookhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-41820707315303904112013-10-16T10:57:56.058-07:002013-10-16T10:57:56.058-07:00Melissa,
could I ask another question, maybe some...Melissa,<br /><br />could I ask another question, maybe somebody knows the answer: Has SPS ever considered the vacated MOHAI museum building on the Montlake Cut for use as a possible school?<br /><br />Because of its picturesque location, the building is not well suited for an attendance area school, but it would actually work great as a permanent location for an option program, for example, Pinehurst Elementary, or Jane Addams environmental K-8, with its trailheads literally leading from the parking lot down into the Arboretum!<br /><br />Does any reader know what this building is currently being used for now that the museum has moved to South Lake Union?apparentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-37478657199166100462013-10-14T20:22:25.158-07:002013-10-14T20:22:25.158-07:00Questions about where APP students who will be in ...Questions about where APP students who will be in 6th grade in 2014-15 will go to school are answered in the latest update on MS interim capacity management: http://www.seattleschools.org/modules/groups/homepagefiles/cms/1583136/File/Departmental%20Content/school%20board/13-14%20agendas/101613agenda/20131016_InterCapMgmt_Attachment1.pdf<br /><br />Rising 6th graders in JAMS attendance area: JAMS<br />In Eckstein AA: JAMS or Eckstein Gen Ed<br />In Wilson-Pacific or Whitman AA: Hamilton (note that this is not spelled out, but there is nowhere else that these students are assigned). Eric Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-32431278493546640662013-10-14T18:56:03.012-07:002013-10-14T18:56:03.012-07:00QAE's geozone does not surround the school? Th...QAE's geozone does not surround the school? That's ludicrous. Look, the district can enlarge or expand it as much as it wants or shift it north south east west. The shape of Thornton Creek's geozone got a lot of discussion because it was clearly being used to manage capacity. But one of the many criteria for the things is also that they serve the surrounding neighborhood. Shouldn't be <i>only</i> for capacity. Someone needs to protest loudly.<br /><br />Thornton NeighborAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-37217963571524954702013-10-14T16:28:29.994-07:002013-10-14T16:28:29.994-07:00Melissa,
my question stands -- why should the boa...Melissa,<br /><br />my question stands -- why should the board accept as accurate a bloated and unsupported projected 80% increase in north Seattle MS APP over the coming decade?<br /><br />And Lynn, thanks for the task force formation update on advanced learning identification, outreach (and criteria too?), but my point is that it will not report until November 29. Will either task force address these APP enrollment projections in their work?apparentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-57456516762745483802013-10-14T14:33:01.853-07:002013-10-14T14:33:01.853-07:00Melissa,
Here's my question - how can an Opti...Melissa,<br /><br />Here's my question - how can an Option school not even be located in its own GeoZone? The new QAE GeoZone is 8 blocks away from the school - at the closest point. <br /><br />QA ParentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-276730142290957902013-10-14T14:32:20.738-07:002013-10-14T14:32:20.738-07:00Matthew Cary - I like your ski picture. I wish I c...Matthew Cary - I like your ski picture. I wish I could see it clearly!skiernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-5725046283731481152013-10-14T14:16:59.182-07:002013-10-14T14:16:59.182-07:00Right, Matthew, there is no public testimony at Wo...Right, Matthew, there is no public testimony at Work Sessions. They occasionally ask the SCPTA President or Sped PTA president for input but that is rare.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12588239576000641336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-90611876396404234342013-10-14T14:06:53.160-07:002013-10-14T14:06:53.160-07:00Actually, the reference to no public testimony is ...Actually, the reference to no public testimony is for the board work session on thursday. There will be testimony as usual on Wednesday. Sorry for inflicting my confusion on everyone.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06938948298429975909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-76538737371410175322013-10-14T14:04:45.117-07:002013-10-14T14:04:45.117-07:00My question (I guess it's a little leading):
...My question (I guess it's a little leading):<br /><br />Is the proposal to move areas 43 and 33 into the McGilvra zone really a sustainable, long-term solution? Does it not just perpetuate and extend all the problems around areas 42 and 43 in general?<br /><br />A couple of other comments:<br /><br />It looks like there will be <a href="http://www.seattleschools.org/modules/cms/pages.phtml?pageid=303774&sessionid=c52e6e6c2d8b9857b75d7c9b53470655" rel="nofollow">no public testimony</a> for growth boundaries at Wednesday's meeting. Is that other peoples' interpretation too?<br /><br />To TechyMom:<br />I don't think there has ever been a real proposal to turn Madrona into a K-5. So it's never been on the table in the first place. There's constantly gossip about it, but there's always lots of gossip about Madrona. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06938948298429975909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-50563534956517953872013-10-14T12:59:58.511-07:002013-10-14T12:59:58.511-07:00apparent,
The task force has been formed. The fir...apparent,<br /><br />The task force has been formed. The first meeting was October 10th.Lynnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-40614030509503722142013-10-14T12:50:18.600-07:002013-10-14T12:50:18.600-07:00Melissa, here is my question and thank you in adva...Melissa, here is my question and thank you in advance for asking it!<br /><br />How can the district possibly justify from the notice and walkability standpoints making this change of Leschi to Meany instead of Washington? <br /><br />Alice<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-27576832220568508762013-10-14T12:33:39.313-07:002013-10-14T12:33:39.313-07:00Catherine,
your concern about wildly overprojecte...Catherine,<br /><br />your concern about wildly overprojected north Seattle APP middle school numbers being tossed out to justify another split is justified.<br /><br />The projected north Seattle 80% increase over a 10-year period (569in 2013-14 to 983 in 2022-23 in the technical report linked by Lynn above) is obviously bogus when compared with much, much lower elementary and south Seattle projections.<br /><br />And especially so since the planned task force on eligibility criteria has not even been formed. Why would the board accept such unsupported numbers from SPS staff?apparentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-90957072712781122592013-10-14T12:16:04.255-07:002013-10-14T12:16:04.255-07:00@Melissa. Here are some questions for you.
1. D...@Melissa. Here are some questions for you.<br /><br />1. Does the current GB plan adequately manage both the immediate and long-term capacity short-falls at Eckstein and Hamilton?<br /><br />2. What is the minimum number of students (overall and per grade level) needed to provide the funding for full comprehensive middle school offerings and services?<br /><br />3. Under the current GB plan, will JAMS enrollment support comprehensive offerings and services? <br /><br />4. If the enrollment at JAMS does not support comprehensive offerings and services, will this budget short-fall be mitigated so that JAMS opens in 2014-15 as a comprehensive middle school?<br /><br />Thank you,<br /><br />-North-end MomAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-49923970274743079612013-10-14T12:12:26.568-07:002013-10-14T12:12:26.568-07:00I share your concerns. I hope you can find someone...I share your concerns. I hope you can find someone to listen to them. <b>Eden?</b>Lynnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-53097876659562563462013-10-14T11:54:12.074-07:002013-10-14T11:54:12.074-07:00thanks Lynn for the link - that was very helpful.
...thanks Lynn for the link - that was very helpful.<br /><br />In short, the District is assuming that because north-end middle school APP grew by 7% in both 2012 and 2013, it will continue this same growth rate for the next 9 years. Rather than looking at it as a one time increase as Hamilton became an attractive option (and Spectrum was gutted) that will then level out. I continue to be concerned that the District is significantly overprojecting the number of north-end APP middle-school APP. A 7% annual growth rate in APP middle schools for 9 years just doesn't seem realistic to me.<br /><br />CatherineAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-47049231988578437732013-10-14T11:23:18.209-07:002013-10-14T11:23:18.209-07:00Catherine,
There was a technical presentation in ...Catherine,<br /><br />There was a technical presentation in July to explain all the forecasts. APP information begins on page 10.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.seattleschools.org/modules/groups/homepagefiles/cms/1583136/File/Departmental%20Content/enrollment%20planning/Technical_Meeting_20130709_2.pdf?sessionid=9951662e138e9cbdf499c357a4e7320b" rel="nofollow">Technical Presentation</a>Lynnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-19153147576320068062013-10-14T11:07:39.773-07:002013-10-14T11:07:39.773-07:00Why is APP not being moved out of Hamilton? It wi...Why is APP not being moved out of Hamilton? It will remain seriously overcrowded and APP will be diluted into three north end middle school sites. It would make much more sense to remove it from Hamilton and have it in two sites. <br /><br />And one more, sorry. Was the MS and HS at Wilson-Pacific considered? Seems like a better idea than HS at Lincoln. Jaynenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-48972208879025874112013-10-14T10:56:44.578-07:002013-10-14T10:56:44.578-07:00What are the geozones for TOPS and NOVA?
NOVA was...What are the geozones for TOPS and NOVA?<br /><br />NOVA was talking about adding middle school awhile ago. Is that happening?<br /><br />There was talk about making Madrona k-5 awhile ago. Is that off the table now?<br />TechyMomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04650916001250022778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-63679653605932504562013-10-14T10:47:48.852-07:002013-10-14T10:47:48.852-07:00My question: Where will newly enrolled 7th Grade &...My question: Where will newly enrolled 7th Grade & 8th Grade NE APP students attend in 2014-15?<br /><br />If I get a second question: Will NNE 7th & 8th graders be grandfathered at Eckstein?<br /><br />Lake City ParentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-83602248859639628052013-10-14T10:42:29.529-07:002013-10-14T10:42:29.529-07:00If they close another school in West Seattle, I...If they close another school in West Seattle, I'd think Roxhill is the logical choice. It is in the worst condition and the Arbor Heights boundary comes right across the streetwestSeattleStevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17240979254572437023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-170700809446686712013-10-14T10:30:46.764-07:002013-10-14T10:30:46.764-07:00Attachment B p. 7 of 23 shows Wilson -Pacific MS c...Attachment B p. 7 of 23 shows Wilson -Pacific MS catchment area as having access to a k-8 option school at Jane Addams.<br />None of the maps reflect this.<br />So my question is: is it going to happen?<br /><br />If I had a second question it would be: Is Cascade homeschool resource center eventually going to be back at Wilson-Pacific, as the maps show?NW mumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-60384199374005645762013-10-14T10:14:05.844-07:002013-10-14T10:14:05.844-07:00Another question for clarification--the revised bo...Another question for clarification--the revised boundaries map shows a list of changed areas and the before and after are labeled as 2013 and 2020. I live in area 85 on the map--we've been assigned to a different elementary school and there's no construction or interim site or whatnot. Does that mean the new assignment goes into affect for 2014-2015 school year or is there additional delay? My daughter is entering SPS as a kindergartener in 2014 so this is an important point for us!Soon-to-be SPS Momnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-333608857559624392013-10-14T10:02:10.224-07:002013-10-14T10:02:10.224-07:00On a non-APP topic, I want to ask about option sch...On a non-APP topic, I want to ask about option school geozones. Since SPS is so concerned about equitable access to programs and option schools are one of the wonderful things SPS has to offer, it puzzles me that not all addresses are in a geozone for an option school and so will not have equal access to entry. <br /><br />In the latest Growth Boundaries Attachment B document it's stated that the plan is to associate 1+ option school "for each middle school service area" and "Align option schools with appropriate middle school service areas as boundaries are developed." Does this mean they will change the currently-mapped geozones to be the same as the MS boundary lines to ensure that all families are linked to one option school?<br /><br />In addition, not all option schools offer an offer through middle school so your option may cease to exist in 6th grade. I want to know if SPS is working toward expanding all option schools to K-8 over time so that alternative educational needs can continue to be met through the middle school years.<br /><br />Thanks for rolling up our top concerns!Soon-to-be SPS Momnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-4298893473121789992013-10-14T10:02:07.034-07:002013-10-14T10:02:07.034-07:00My question - the District is projecting an 80% in...My question - the District is projecting an 80% increase in north-end middle school APP enrollment from 2013 to 2022 (north middle school APP would go from 549 kids to 989 kids). What is the rationale for this huge increase? It stands in stark contrast to the 20% growth assumed for the District as a whole and the 15% increase assumed for north-end elementary APP.<br /><br />I have sent several emails to the District asking for the basis for the 80% growth rate assumption but have not received a response. I am very concerned about this growth rate projection as it's probably the basis for the District's proposal to split north APP into 3 different schools. I don't think there are enough APP kids to maintain a viable co-hort at 3 different schools.<br /><br />Catherine Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-77796747245022308252013-10-14T10:01:01.266-07:002013-10-14T10:01:01.266-07:00Question:
Is there a plan to eventually close Alk...Question:<br /><br />Is there a plan to eventually close Alki Elementary? <br /><br />If in 2017 there will be an expected surplus of approx. 800 seats in West Seattle, and if Alki's new boundaries keep it so small that it enrolls only 250-375 students, is the long term plan to move those students to empty seats at other schools, and close Alki?<br /><br />Thank you Melissa!pamnoreply@blogger.com