tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post4673768406234805140..comments2024-03-28T02:21:17.452-07:00Comments on Seattle Schools Community Forum: Update on Data Privacy and the PSATMelissa Westbrookhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-23668477307938839662014-10-16T12:50:09.225-07:002014-10-16T12:50:09.225-07:00If there were ever a misplaced crusade about data ...If there were ever a misplaced crusade about data sharing, college recruitment opportunities are it. Jeez people, in your quest for perfect data privacy you are cutting off the much bigger possibility of making the dreams and opportunities of our students wider and bigger. Nonprofits spend big bucks to get colleges to notice college-ready kids whose parents haven't been priming them for strong post-high-school academia.<br /><br />Bring on the college information!And the scholarship information!<br /><br />HS Parent<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-26846604557879308882014-10-16T11:57:19.273-07:002014-10-16T11:57:19.273-07:00I can't recall if I opted in. 1983 was a long ...I can't recall if I opted in. 1983 was a long time ago. I'd be in favor of an easy (single checkbox) way to opt out, but I think the default should be for students to get offers and information from colleges and scholarships they may not have known about. I certainly didn't know what was coming in the mail, or what I might be missing by opting out. I would expect an awful lot of kids don't know either, whether that's because they are Freshmen or because their parents don't know much about college.TechyMomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04650916001250022778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-32537930645023755952014-10-15T18:50:10.932-07:002014-10-15T18:50:10.932-07:00Seen it, at the same time those that collect data...Seen it, at the same time those that collect data DO NOT reveal what the data is and the final disposition of this data.mirmac1https://www.blogger.com/profile/10183460709639638172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-11342629332901779372014-10-15T17:59:26.339-07:002014-10-15T17:59:26.339-07:00"The information can help district and school..."The information can help district and schools identify potential students who are likely to succeed"<br /><br />The fact is that yes, these tests are one indicator that a student might do well at college. It is not the only indicator. It may not be the best indicator. But it is an indicator. <br /><br />Data sharing is not always bad. RoadMap project is not always bad. The world is not black and white, us against them no matter how hard some commenters try to make it so.<br /><br />Seen It Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-54614582465888871832014-10-15T15:26:12.137-07:002014-10-15T15:26:12.137-07:00Road Map pays for PSATs and SATs while..."In ...<a href="http://roadmapracetothetop.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Stay-Strong-PR-Formatted-2.pdf" rel="nofollow">Road Map pays for PSATs and SATs while..."In addition to assisting with college admissions, these tests provide districts and schools with valuable data to help improve instruction. The information can help district and schools identify potential students who are likely to succeed"</a>mirmac1https://www.blogger.com/profile/10183460709639638172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-84213527070266365322014-10-15T12:18:54.992-07:002014-10-15T12:18:54.992-07:00Naviance was used by my oldest at Seattle Waldorf ...Naviance was used by my oldest at Seattle Waldorf High School and he received several scholarships to east coast schools we hadn't even considered before. One of those schools became his 3rd choice but he got into his 1st choice so we didn't accept the scholarship. I always wondered how they heard about him and why they were sending scholarship offers out of the blue to him. It must have been from the Naviance database.<br /><br />HPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-73313117056740277702014-10-15T12:12:40.239-07:002014-10-15T12:12:40.239-07:00What EdVoter said.
I got piles of mail from colle...What EdVoter said.<br /><br />I got piles of mail from colleges and the military after doing well on the PSAT in 9th grade. I learned a lot about what was available (beyond my parents' alma mater and its rival) from that mail. This is neither new nor bad.TechyMomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04650916001250022778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-62234628131651490762014-10-15T11:50:48.283-07:002014-10-15T11:50:48.283-07:00One other issue is that some groups are asking for...One other issue is that some groups are asking for the last four digits of your child's SSN. If you are okay with that.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-33189236183100680272014-10-15T10:54:32.030-07:002014-10-15T10:54:32.030-07:00This doesn't concern me at all compared to MAP...This doesn't concern me at all compared to MAP scores, common core test scores, amplify, whatever, whatever, whatever scores being stored for my kids starting in K through 12th grade. I mean, one of my kids just clicks A on the MAP test to get out to recess and see the cartoon sooner. I worry non-stop that since there is forever-record of his abysmal scores that he will be shunned by colleges even though he is a smart kid.<br /><br />At least the PSAT usually has kids paying more attention since they are older and better understand the life implications. <br /><br />I hate the thought that my kid might not attend Harvard :) because his 2nd grade MAP scores were horrendous. <br /><br />I was born in the early 70's and I was bombarded with college info after taking the PSATs and SATs. I loved getting it. bigger concernsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-83697678305989891962014-10-15T10:25:59.466-07:002014-10-15T10:25:59.466-07:00@ Melissa, actually, the contact in multiple ways ...@ Melissa, actually, the contact in multiple ways isn't new either. We received not just mail, but also phone calls to our landline in those ancient days. The mail and phone calls came to myself, and to my parents, meaning there were (primitive) databases or at least Rolodexes (remember those!) being updated.<br /><br />Yes, there are more ways today to contact and/or harass potential college students and their families, but mining standardized test scores is an old college recruitment trick.<br /><br />A small part of me is happy that colleges are spending money data-mining to attract strong academic students and not solely for strong college athletes. <br /><br />EdVoter Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-46697764052197702482014-10-15T09:10:16.784-07:002014-10-15T09:10:16.784-07:00EdVoter, it is new in that data is being shared an...EdVoter, it is new in that data is being shared and students contacted in multiple ways.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-89031033185760231042014-10-15T08:55:41.355-07:002014-10-15T08:55:41.355-07:00Somehow I recall a RoadMap project that includes P...Somehow I recall a RoadMap project that includes PSAT and SAT testing. Might be worth a look to see if SPS is wrapped up in that.mirmac1https://www.blogger.com/profile/10183460709639638172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-70342936726590033822014-10-15T08:40:47.541-07:002014-10-15T08:40:47.541-07:00First, what businesses? That is pretty vague.
Se...First, what businesses? That is pretty vague. <br /><br />Second, what is wrong with colleges sending your students information? Isn't that part of the point of taking PSATs/SATs; to have unknown doors opened to your students?<br /><br />Po3noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-67835060565419722652014-10-15T08:37:03.911-07:002014-10-15T08:37:03.911-07:00This is not a new issue. A generation ago I scored...This is not a new issue. A generation ago I scored very well on my standardized college assessment test. Within weeks my mailbox was full of recruitment brochures and it didn't end until well after I was out of college itself. <br /><br />On the positive side, I learned a lot about institutions with which I was unfamiliar. Even considered one of them. There is worse junk mail, I suppose.<br /><br />EdVoterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com