tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post4990361171457344625..comments2024-03-28T02:21:17.452-07:00Comments on Seattle Schools Community Forum: Black Lives Matter Experiment in Hale ClassMelissa Westbrookhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-79989390127711214912018-03-13T16:01:42.390-07:002018-03-13T16:01:42.390-07:00I'm ending the discussion here. I did not hea...I'm ending the discussion here. I did not hear from any students on the issue so I'm thinking it was one student.<br /><br />TV, if you read what I wrote, the word was "uncomfortable" not "offended." Big difference.<br /><br />Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-54137608574080264482018-03-13T14:15:51.569-07:002018-03-13T14:15:51.569-07:00Still waiting for some info on the "Experimen...Still waiting for some info on the "Experiment".<br /><br />All we've heard is that it maybe offended students of color?<br /><br />TVAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-44056775154634665442018-03-13T14:01:49.001-07:002018-03-13T14:01:49.001-07:00Boo, you have made your position clear and we don&...Boo, you have made your position clear and we don't need to hear it again and again.<br /><br />Because every discussion that involves race - to you - is race baiting (an ugly term)so it's of no use to include you because you don't want to have a discussion.<br /><br />Moving on indeed. Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-33273214168560865222018-03-13T12:08:09.358-07:002018-03-13T12:08:09.358-07:00I respect your position but I dont agree with it. ...I respect your position but I dont agree with it. You should respect other people wishes to be judged on there merits only. Im moving on until the next race baiting subject comes up.<br /><br />BooAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-48597959436129084412018-03-13T08:37:24.620-07:002018-03-13T08:37:24.620-07:00What a bizarre philosophy you hold to, Boo.
Almost...What a bizarre philosophy you hold to, Boo.<br />Almost as if you want to deny that racism exists or something.<br /><br />But do tell: do tell us how, like millions of the ancestors of African Americans, you were brought here against your will packed (with 600 others) into the hold of a leaking, rank ship, chained to the bilge. How DID you survive the trip, Boo?Seattle Citizenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13832728366881584295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-84784330203513577222018-03-12T22:03:51.821-07:002018-03-12T22:03:51.821-07:00Im non black and was brought here without choice. ...Im non black and was brought here without choice. There's not a single person alive that has ever met a black person who was sold to a white american as an African slave, so please drop the constant demonization of classes or individuals for the sins of west africans, Spaniards, south Americans and Americans for events 150 years ago.<br /><br />BooAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-10379531413633834952018-03-12T10:14:17.661-07:002018-03-12T10:14:17.661-07:00Boo,
There Are Currently Four Black CEOs in the Fo...Boo,<br /><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/10/black-ceos-fortune-500/543960/" rel="nofollow">There Are Currently Four Black CEOs in the Fortune 500</a><br /><br /><a href="https://nextcity.org/daily/entry/housing-discrimination-us-report" rel="nofollow">This is What Housing Discrimination Looks Like in the US</a><br /><br /><a href="https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/9/18/16307782/study-racism-jobs" rel="nofollow">Anti-Black Hiring Discrimination as Prevalent Today as in 1989</a>Seattle Citizenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13832728366881584295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-30506396350483051042018-03-12T10:10:40.619-07:002018-03-12T10:10:40.619-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Seattle Citizenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13832728366881584295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-86520086624254785592018-03-12T10:05:21.446-07:002018-03-12T10:05:21.446-07:00@Boo - Obama also had a white mother, and a black ...@Boo - Obama also had a white mother, and a black father who was Kenyan, educated & middle-upper class. His history is not identical to many/majority black Americans in this country, with slavery and poverty in their ancestry. In our country, class history plays a large part in obtaining economic success. It often takes many generations to do well economically to reach the middle class. Simultaneously industries have changed and it has also become harder requiring more and longer higher education. Generational wealth & educational privileges get passed along for people of all races. There are also many poor whites affected by their class histories, and changing economy. However, people of color and blacks tend to be disproportionately poor due to their class histories and the added effects of racism.<br />PT Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-45064464013240952432018-03-12T00:34:20.038-07:002018-03-12T00:34:20.038-07:00Boo, you seem to see what you want to see. You’ve ...Boo, you seem to see what you want to see. You’ve made your opinion known; move on.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-8231150130140544852018-03-11T20:07:59.232-07:002018-03-11T20:07:59.232-07:00I don't see any impediments preventing blacks ... I don't see any impediments preventing blacks from achieving like other people of color have and come to think of it everywhere I look I see successful black people. They are in every vocation and in every corporate setting in America. If Americans were racist I doubt you would see countless black millionaires and black politicians. I assure you that Mr. Obama would have never become president if whites did not vote for him. If the republican party was racist there wouldn't be millions of black republicans.<br /><br />I find it strange that I only encounter white people and millionaire black athletes playing the race card, perhaps it's a different story in private? <br /><br />I would argue that Latinos were enslaved in a modern sense for the last 60 + years working in the US agro industry. <br /><br />So lets create the United Latino Collage fund, the National Association for the advancement of Latinos etc, just to be fair. <br /><br />Boo <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-60426579027095289782018-03-11T15:59:01.198-07:002018-03-11T15:59:01.198-07:00(sorry), is less identity politics and more being ...(sorry), is less identity politics and more being Americans.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-28251754743371123352018-03-11T15:58:37.187-07:002018-03-11T15:58:37.187-07:00Boo, you have gone over the line in one comment th...Boo, you have gone over the line in one comment that has been deleted. You are entitled to opinions but racist ones are not welcome here.<br /><br />You obviously came from somewhere (unless you are Native American which means you are part of a class of people who REALLY have been abused by those who settled this country). <br /><br />You are complaining about this country and its efforts to come to grips with what effects - to this day - that slavery have had on black people. You want to believe - somehow, despite no historical evidence - that the day the war ended, all racism ended. All the effects of slavery like breaking up of families, inability to be educated, inability to buy land - just went away like that? They did not.<br /><br />I just visited Charleston, S.C. and it's a tough thing to balance the people today with their past generations. WSDWG brilliantly said - elsewhere - that he is not responsible for what happened in the past BUT he is responsible for its effects AND his own actions today. <br /><br />I don't believe in reparations because 1) I don't think it could ever happen and 2) what would be appropriate? What I think we need is a national discussion and reconciliation like they did in South Africa. It's hard to move on when everyone acts like there are no effects today.<br /><br />I think what we need in this country Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-52568747361413694702018-03-11T14:44:52.781-07:002018-03-11T14:44:52.781-07:00No, I'm not going to Europe for the following ...No, I'm not going to Europe for the following reasons;<br /><br />1. My family is not from Europe.<br />2. I'm not complaining about this country.<br />3. I'm not trying to demonize classes of Americans for events that happened 100 + years ago.<br /><br />BooAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-37489516420130723612018-03-11T08:31:31.762-07:002018-03-11T08:31:31.762-07:00Give Melissa a break. This is a volunteer blog an...Give Melissa a break. This is a volunteer blog and she's not checking for horrid comments 24/7. People who post need to take some responsibility for what they say and the rest of us need to take a deep breath, call some posts horrid and move on.<br /><br />Momof2Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-43631293252213719862018-03-11T00:52:54.639-08:002018-03-11T00:52:54.639-08:00Always telling regarding who MW decides to delete ...Always telling regarding who MW decides to delete and who is allowed to stay.<br /><br />Steve BannonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-90060394058593591032018-03-10T23:55:03.502-08:002018-03-10T23:55:03.502-08:00When are you going back to Europe, boo?
They mis...When are you going back to Europe, boo?<br /> <br />They miss you.<br /><br />Chief SealthAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-32555038089513282052018-03-10T18:54:11.983-08:002018-03-10T18:54:11.983-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-28695412847171401902018-03-10T14:52:07.739-08:002018-03-10T14:52:07.739-08:00The school district should reinstate the complete ...The school district should reinstate the complete Center School curricula on conversations about race. Shauna Heath should not have gutted it to avoid controversy. Any student who doesn’t want to take the class should be able to take something else. Others could learn about race in a historical context. It would probably be more interesting than the history classes I slept through.<br /><br />S parentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-58534060721319749892018-03-10T10:35:50.922-08:002018-03-10T10:35:50.922-08:00I second Flummoxed comments. Black History month ...I second Flummoxed comments. Black History month has become an excuse for history teachers to experiment with education process, as far as I have seen with poor & disastrous results. This isn't just Black History, but probably the easiest example of good intentions gone awry. I've been dreadfully unimpressed with the modern middle school history curriculum. English teachers don't seem to have the same problems trying to recreate the wheel.<br /><br />SPS parent of 3Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-21881998957187088912018-03-10T09:54:11.258-08:002018-03-10T09:54:11.258-08:00Boo is espousing the sound bites common to white n...Boo is espousing the sound bites common to white nationalist trolls. In the face of this blatant barrage it is important for school districts to redouble their efforts to educate students globally. I have direct experience in the SPS curriculum 'for the past 10 years' as a parent and, in contrast to Boo's lying memes, my student has not had heavy coverage of 'non white history' as it is insultingly described by the troll. However, I have seen white nationalist websites exhorting their misguided followers to infiltrate teaching corps and other groups to insinuate their "viewpoints". This may have already happened in Spokane, where an 11 year old student who is a member of the Klamath tribe was assigned to comment on his "feelings" regarding the "slaughter" of white settlers by indigenous tribes. And consider the Florida teacher who ran a white nationalist podcast in her spare time. One shudders to think what she managed to insinuate into her classroom prior to being discovered and fired. The fact is, we have a very well-documented racist in the white house presently. While it would be a stretch to say that he is running the country, his presence has encouraged uncivil discourse and overt lying to subvert reality in the minds of manipulatable individuals. In this atmosphere we have a huge responsibility to our children to provide a grounded, global, fact-based education to provide children with intrinsic defenses against manipulation.<br /><br />VigilanceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-36386741501544567732018-03-09T23:46:39.134-08:002018-03-09T23:46:39.134-08:00There no blacks living in the US wbo were brought ...There no blacks living in the US wbo were brought here against their will. You must be confusing blacks for dreamers.<br /><br />BooAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-70385626252054483782018-03-09T23:43:14.180-08:002018-03-09T23:43:14.180-08:00Stop lying. Students are bombarded with non white ...Stop lying. Students are bombarded with non white history. It obvious you haven't been paying attention for the last 10 years.<br /><br />BooAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-65973391139629548062018-03-09T23:12:02.874-08:002018-03-09T23:12:02.874-08:00White people seem to miss the reality that the his...White people seem to miss the reality that the history of America is white history. The history of blacks in America is completely different.<br /><br />Whites came here to escape persecution and find new opportunities. Blacks were brought here against their will and subjected to horrific cruelties both during and after slavery.<br /><br />Women likewise have an entirely different history from the white men of America.<br /><br />How can those histories possibly be studied without Women's Studies or African American or Native American Studies?<br /><br /><br /><br />Turquoisenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-29299362744415815972018-03-09T22:33:27.928-08:002018-03-09T22:33:27.928-08:00You can't just teach black history for a few d...You can't just teach black history for a few days in February in history class. The same way that you can't just teach about women during March. Students and teachers and human beings are black all the time or women all the time (or both). It really shouldn't be like, we'll just teach general learning all the time, which won't include any black people or women, etc. and then on the special occasion of Black History Month or Women's Day or Month we'll take a break from the white guys and teach more. Mother's aren't only important on Mother's Day. "Ethnic Studies" is a great idea, but ideally it should be mixed into every subject throughout the year. We should be using text books that include more than just mostly white men. And if for some reason we're not, we should do like those pop-up videos MTV used to do, we should be interrupting our regularly scheduled programming to provide information about the rest of humanity that got "accidentally" left out of the curricular materials. Andienoreply@blogger.com