tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post5995229515131056107..comments2024-03-28T02:21:17.452-07:00Comments on Seattle Schools Community Forum: Erin Jones Gets It Wrong (Again)Melissa Westbrookhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comBlogger60125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-9730333447291653422016-10-25T21:18:05.228-07:002016-10-25T21:18:05.228-07:00I am astonished at this deflection by Jones' s...I am astonished at this deflection by Jones' supporters. <br /><br />Her many verbal gaffes? She's just not a "polished" campaigner. <br /><br />Her not one but two endorsements rescinded? They act like that didn't happen AND that she has the support of the LGBT community. No group is monolithic but ask The Stranger, is the majority of that community behind her? At this point, highly unlikely.<br /><br />Is she likeable? Of course. Is she inspiring? Of course. <br /><br />But we're not electing a public speaker; we're electing a person for an executive position to oversee the public schools in this state.<br /><br />Lastly, if anyone thinks that this incident with the video is not going to get back to other legislators, I think that's a bad bet. How well can legislators trust her now that they know that private conversations with her will not stay private?<br /><br />I am so willing to take this abuse because I truly believe - again - that she is not ready for elected office.<br />Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-24736703727408658312016-10-25T20:23:47.428-07:002016-10-25T20:23:47.428-07:00Times, you said exactly what I was thinking!
-SPS...Times, you said exactly what I was thinking!<br /><br />-SPSParentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-24325067333546871252016-10-25T20:13:15.244-07:002016-10-25T20:13:15.244-07:00Wow, if 36th voter is an example of a Jones suppor...Wow, if 36th voter is an example of a Jones supporter, that speaks volumes.<br /><br />Melissa's account seems accurate, credible and of importance to voters.<br /><br />Times ReaderAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-9914659797290453052016-10-25T19:18:26.071-07:002016-10-25T19:18:26.071-07:0036th voter, At this point, it is fair to say that ...36th voter, At this point, it is fair to say that you are harassing Melissa. Frustratednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-85232739356007807852016-10-25T18:57:58.089-07:002016-10-25T18:57:58.089-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-27642962474313637412016-10-25T17:37:08.045-07:002016-10-25T17:37:08.045-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-14305186307756311992016-10-25T17:03:08.968-07:002016-10-25T17:03:08.968-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-59805603747502038412016-10-25T16:47:46.361-07:002016-10-25T16:47:46.361-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-4679912128269740202016-10-25T16:43:43.899-07:002016-10-25T16:43:43.899-07:0036th voter:
You recorded a conversation with Kyle...36th voter:<br /><br />You recorded a conversation with Kyle? I hope you had his consent. Washington requires both parties to a phone call to consent to recording. Carry on. <br /><br />Smelling BS<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-29389323639857301722016-10-25T16:38:21.070-07:002016-10-25T16:38:21.070-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-10105373268940611322016-10-25T16:14:31.198-07:002016-10-25T16:14:31.198-07:0036th voter, I checked with Kyle (we stay in touch ...36th voter, I checked with Kyle (we stay in touch even though he is now is LA.) Just as I suspected, he said no such thing. He also said that would never use the word "tattletale."<br /><br />Take your sorry self and go back under your bridge.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-70563447681957827602016-10-25T14:41:58.212-07:002016-10-25T14:41:58.212-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-87104191970273789652016-10-25T13:56:36.230-07:002016-10-25T13:56:36.230-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-64294929241850436672016-10-25T13:39:39.117-07:002016-10-25T13:39:39.117-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-34769793423257784542016-10-25T13:20:01.037-07:002016-10-25T13:20:01.037-07:0036th, I had forgotten about that. I did not do any...36th, I had forgotten about that. I did not do anything to encourage that and I stated my unqualified disgust at such an action. What other people write here is not something I can control.<br /><br />And 36th, I don't know who you spoke to (or even if you did) but the former ed reporter at KPLU was a good guy and would never have said that. <br /><br />I don't have to reveal my sources. <br /><br />I say you need to stop making this about me and worry about your candidate, Jones. She's the one with a credibility problem, not me.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-25232673785784981742016-10-25T13:16:53.811-07:002016-10-25T13:16:53.811-07:00Well that's not what I was told. I think with ...Well that's not what I was told. I think with you there's about 75% truth and 25% spin on many of your stories including this one. The fact that you're playing dumb on the Peaslee threats only reinforces my opinion.<br /><br />The reporter over at KPLU Kyle said, "Melissa is like the classroom tattletale running to the teacher every time she doesn't like something". He said he tolerates you just in case you do have something big for him. He said you receive a lot of information via disgruntled teachers.<br /><br />What say you?<br /><br />36th voter Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-41579035318640104682016-10-25T12:58:31.693-07:002016-10-25T12:58:31.693-07:00I was given a piece of video where a conversation ...I was given a piece of video where a conversation with Reuven Carlyle was talked about. I know Reuven so I called him to ask him about it. He already had seen the video and was very unhappy. <br /><br />I frequently pass on news stories to many in the media and they are appreciative for my efforts. Nothing weird there.<br /><br />36th, who "incited violence against a school board member?" <br /><br />Our standard here IS provide an open forum on issues about public education. Do we always get it right? Nope but we do not spread "misinformation." <br />Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-18189083002898518792016-10-25T12:53:51.366-07:002016-10-25T12:53:51.366-07:00Tara, Do you have access to the entire tape? I...Tara, Do you have access to the entire tape? I'd like to see it.<br /><br />Jones is free to respond to Carlyle's comment.Seattle Residentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-90738035542145408302016-10-25T12:44:23.754-07:002016-10-25T12:44:23.754-07:00I have a hard time with this blogs modus operandi,...I have a hard time with this blogs modus operandi, but more troubling to me is why a state senator would officially comment here. This site is known for spreading misinformation and inciting violence against a school board member.<br /><br />I don't really care who gets elected SSPI, but I'm going to have to rethink voting for Carlyle again. <br /><br />In Carlyle's defense he said it was MW who initiated the conversation. MW has also contacted KUOW, the stranger, king5 pushing this story. <br /><br />36th voter Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-84684111921857234222016-10-25T12:09:20.078-07:002016-10-25T12:09:20.078-07:00Again Tara, if you want to say Reuven is wrong/lyi...Again Tara, if you want to say Reuven is wrong/lying, that's fine. Just as you say that is not how Jones is, I say Reuven does not lie. He's a precise, detailed person.<br /><br />As well, I would think that whether this gets other press, the word will get out to other legislators who, if she is elected, may think twice about speaking with her on education issues. <br /><br />And about the donor list, that is from an older post. This post reflects how much corporate ed reform money is pouring into Jones' campaign, even from a guy who supports Tim Eyman. <br /><br />Yes, I understood that it was Ms Almond who released this video and then took it down. That's what my source told me.<br /><br />I absolutely would allow Jones to make a statement. Everyone who is civil is welcome here.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-51736745899402416802016-10-25T11:18:57.862-07:002016-10-25T11:18:57.862-07:00Erin Jones' "misstatements" went &qu...Erin Jones' "misstatements" went "far outside acceptable boundaries."<br /><br />Tara, are you ok with this?<br /><br />Should Ms Jones correct her misstatements? Apologize for going outside "acceptable boundaries"? <br /><br />Or call Senator Carlyle to task for misrepresenting what was said?<br /><br />As for journalism, I'll give Melissa much credit. She has allowed the video to be posted showing exactly what was said. She allowed Senator Carlyle to comment and I am sure she would allow Ms Jones the same courtesy. <br /><br />I would like to hear from Ms Jones. Joseph Rocknehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18395780229029985101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-35584132209427860112016-10-25T11:13:56.528-07:002016-10-25T11:13:56.528-07:00Tara--I am wondering why you released this vid? Wa...Tara--I am wondering why you released this vid? Was it because you thought Ms. Jones had the endorsement of Sen. Carlyle and wanted to let other voters know? Or was there another reason?<br /><br /><br />Po3noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-57074317068598008112016-10-25T10:47:46.845-07:002016-10-25T10:47:46.845-07:00Tara,
My point is that you have yet to offer any ...Tara,<br /><br />My point is that you have yet to offer any substantive criticism of Melissa's reporting. You keep acting as if this is some sort of personal attack on Ms. Jones, but if you can't argue with the facts, I don't see your point. You also attack The Stranger but fail to explain how its reporting has been irresponsible with respect to Ms. Jones. As someone preparing to vote in this race, I'm looking for substance not name-calling.<br /><br />Based on the video and the Senator's comments, Ms. Jones seems to have been misleading in recounting her telephone conversion. Your only objections seem to be that this report appeared on a blog rather than some other media outlet and that you don't like the facts reported because they reflect poorly on a candidate you support. That's not persuasive. That you don't think this story matters and seem to judge the importance of news stories by whether major media outlets run them first is an opinion that many of us do not share. Argue the facts and stop attacking the messengers. I agree that we should be skeptical with all reporting, but here, we have video and a witness who participated in the phone call. Are you suggesting the Senator is lying? <br /><br />Troubled<br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-7226930432964812792016-10-25T10:26:36.623-07:002016-10-25T10:26:36.623-07:00This blog is interesting...
"Examining the ...This blog is interesting... <br /><br />"Examining the contributions we see that, of Chris’s 39 donations of $1,000 or more, only three were from individuals and one of those individuals is a lobbyist. The remaining donations are from Microsoft, Weyerhaeuser, unions, corporations, the Nisqually Tribe, and PACs. In fact, of those 39 donations, 10 are from PACs, making Chris “PAC-man” Reykdal’s accusations that Erin Jones is beholden to special interests blatantly hypocritical."<br /><br />http://prosserjohn.tumblr.com/post/150888997760/chris-reykdal-misrepresenting-himselfAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05643889910901283127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-31384503981842634412016-10-25T10:17:16.813-07:002016-10-25T10:17:16.813-07:00Melissa,
All I'm saying is these allegations ...Melissa,<br /><br />All I'm saying is these allegations about Erin are unsubstantive and that's a reason the major media outlets didn't pick this "story" up and run with it. <br /><br />Troubled,<br /><br />Don't tell me about the role of journalists. No one knows the role better than someone who's been too broke to pay for heat because her freelance reporter income didn't pay the bills. I didn't get into it for the money. I, like Melissa, believe Democracy functions best with the free flow of information. <br /><br />Bloggers like Melissa DO add to the media landscape and overall, bloggers and traditional media outlets complement each other, but blogs will never replace fair, accurate and ethical journalism. People need to remember that on the whole they are two different things and for that matter every news source should be treated with a certain amount of skepticism.<br /><br />TaraAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05643889910901283127noreply@blogger.com