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"...This from a facilities management meeting:<br /><br />"xxxxx has been turned on and is in testing mode. Seven managers will travel to Myrtle Beach for training beginning March 20" <br /><br />Wow..., the district is drowning in red ink yet money was found to fly <b>seven managers</b> to Florida for training on a new software program that probably could have been created (or purchased) here in the land of Microsoft...?<br /><br />That's <b>seven round trip airline tickets, seven rooms at a hotel</b> for who knows how long - hmmm... with the "district budget crisis" always in the news (or on blogs), this sounds like piss poor economic "management" to me…<br /><br />So, instead of bashing "the unions" maybe MGJ should be fired and a committee appointed from now on to run the school district instead of just one "leader"...?DRCbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00390372832827515542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-91194854522680075502010-05-18T19:24:44.147-07:002010-05-18T19:24:44.147-07:00For Toni and all others who think that seniority i...For Toni and all others who think that seniority is the first and/or only factor considered in RIFing...<br /><br />Layoff is done by category<br />and then by seniority...<br /><br />The certificated teacher contract is on the SEA website.<br /><a href="http://www.seattlewea.org/static_content/certfinal.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.seattlewea.org/static_content/certfinal.pdf</a><br /><br />Its a very interesting document, and reading it will dispel some of the current myths around RIFing and teacher evaluation and salary - such as Liv Finne's assertion that teachers get paid for 12 months while only doing 10 months work...<br /><br />Details re evaluation and RIFing start at page 106 of the certificated contract... there are also salary scales listed - you'll see that teachers are not exactly being handed bags of gold for the work they do and for the qualifications they hold....Sahilahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11610179287237833742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-68209920297226361422010-05-18T15:20:53.264-07:002010-05-18T15:20:53.264-07:00The ideas about merit pay and seniority are good. ...The ideas about merit pay and seniority are good. Some of the other proposals are no more than union-bashing. Keeping unions from collecting dues is petty harassment. WPC would be more effective if it weren't so obviously a front organization.Danny Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07632244455766365141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-36762683294748469302010-05-17T20:36:02.770-07:002010-05-17T20:36:02.770-07:00Sahila, you may want to reread the Save Seattle Sc...<b>Sahila</b>, you may want to reread the <b>Save Seattle Schools blog guidelines</b><br /><br /><i>Blog authors are invited by the blog owners (Mel, Charlie and Beth).<br /><br />Blog authorship rights can be revoked at the discretion of the blog owners if they judge that blog guidelines have been violated.<br />Anyone can comment.<br /><br />Comments can be deleted at the discretion of the blog owners if they judge that blog guidelines have been violated.<br /><br />In general, when commenting, pick and use a name consistently so that the thread of conversation can be followed more easily.<br />People are welcome to use their real names or make up names when commenting.<br /><br /><b>"Outing" a commenter by suggesting the real name for a pseudonym is prohibited. Everyone has the right to comment anonymously if desired for any reason.</b><br /><br />Disagreement on issues is welcome. Personal attacks are not.</i><br /><br />It seems to me that your posts of 11:07 and 12:59 violate the bolded guideline.Maureenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18444916440000921599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-78268631786144558192010-05-17T20:32:24.780-07:002010-05-17T20:32:24.780-07:00Sahila, I would invite you to reread the Save Seat...Sahila, I would invite you to reread the <b>Save Seattle Schools blog guidelines</b><br /><br /><i>Blog authors are invited by the blog owners (Mel, Charlie and Beth).<br /><br />Blog authorship rights can be revoked at the discretion of the blog owners if they judge that blog guidelines have been violated.<br /><br />Anyone can comment.<br /><br />Comments can be deleted at the discretion of the blog owners if they judge that blog guidelines have been violated.<br /><br />In general, when commenting, pick and use a name consistently so that the thread of conversation can be followed more easily.<br /><br />People are welcome to use their real names or make up names when commenting.<br /><br /><b>"Outing" a commenter by suggesting the real name for a pseudonym is prohibited. Everyone has the right to comment anonymously if desired for any reason.</b><br /><br />Disagreement on issues is welcome. Personal attacks are not.</i><br /><br />It seems to me that your posts from 11:07 and 12:59 violate the bolded guideline.Maureenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18444916440000921599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-40076109160427626562010-05-17T18:37:09.133-07:002010-05-17T18:37:09.133-07:00Toni - I live within Seattle city boundaries and m...Toni - I live within Seattle city boundaries and my child goes to a Shoreline public alternative school BECAUSE THERE IS NO ROOM FOR HIM IN AN ALTERNATIVE PROGRAMME WITHIN SPS... and AS#1 is no longer alternative, in my book... <br /><br />I had in fact applied for an alternative school place for my child for the coming year (Bagley's Montessori (I considedr Montessori to be an alternative programme), TC and Salmon Bay)... I got notification that he has been assigned to Broadview Thompson and is waitlisted at Bagley...<br /><br />If a place becomes available for him in an acceptable alternative programme, I shall consider bringing him back into SPS...Sahilahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11610179287237833742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-30258085028763046782010-05-17T17:32:17.114-07:002010-05-17T17:32:17.114-07:00Rob, I insert repetive "talking points" ...Rob, I insert repetive "talking points" to counterweight the repetitive boilerplate we seem to hear from groups (and individuals) associated with reform. As we've seen often on this blog, there is so much to discuss, and I feel that I weigh in with all sorts of comments. Lately, of course, as contract talks start up, we are deluged with reformers in the newspaper, here, everywhere. If people want to discuss issues, great, but when they are merely parroting the party line, I'll gladly stand in opposition, even if I repeat myself. It seems they are chanting the same mantra over and over again, without a whole lot to back it up (where's Ms Finne's research? A newspaper opinion piece by Neal Pearce?), so I'll just chant right back, "show us the data" and "who do you work for" and "why do you believe this"<br /><br />It's rare, in my opinion, that there is a cogent response. But I'll keep asking if it counters their persistent push to place their unproven agendas into public schools.<br /><br />WV agrees that the messinge often repeats itself, and so singes the ear. Can't be helped.seattle citizenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16724175257161649500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-32776259523158236802010-05-17T17:25:02.952-07:002010-05-17T17:25:02.952-07:00It is you Seattle Cit that seems like you get paid...It is you Seattle Cit that seems like you get paid to insert "the talking points". You repeat yourself over and over - no matter the thread, no matter the topic.<br /><br />wv: I'm tired of this whole taing discussion.SPS parenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00766426598026724476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-4673850305368673192010-05-17T17:25:02.953-07:002010-05-17T17:25:02.953-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.SPS parenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00766426598026724476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-79698932986523596882010-05-17T17:22:49.694-07:002010-05-17T17:22:49.694-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.seattlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01231800476411684686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-14830731136963415932010-05-17T17:05:36.426-07:002010-05-17T17:05:36.426-07:00Toni, rest assured that I am not a "union pla...Toni, rest assured that I am not a "union plant," nor do I "get paid to post on local blogs"<br /><br />Unlike some of the groups, local and national, that pay people large sums of money to "spread the word."<br /><br />This is exactly what I was talking about in my last post: Many of these groups have turned into lobbying organizations, paid by "foundations" and others to insert "the talking points" into whichever media will have them. Hundreds of thousands of dollars are spent on this effort - look at the hedge-funders paying for lobbyists to convince the New York State government to support charters in underserved areas because the hedge funds can make money off the tax credits.<br /><br />Thank you for helping illustrate my point, and be assured I am not paid union plant.seattle citizenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16724175257161649500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-63558187342131623542010-05-17T16:46:02.626-07:002010-05-17T16:46:02.626-07:00"Ms Merlo, according to records I found, does..."Ms Merlo, according to records I found, does not live or have children within SPS ... her address is listed in several places as Mercer Island... why is she meddling in SPS business, when she is in no way affected by what goes on in the District?"<br /><br />Sahila, for you to attack Ms. Merlo on this point is absolutely absurd considering that your kid goes to a Shoreline school. Why are you meddling in SPS buisiness Sahila?seattlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01231800476411684686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-60257964928039727492010-05-17T16:45:11.045-07:002010-05-17T16:45:11.045-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.seattlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01231800476411684686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-66661995546259640412010-05-17T16:43:01.579-07:002010-05-17T16:43:01.579-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.seattlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01231800476411684686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-46246594188610498842010-05-17T16:38:18.549-07:002010-05-17T16:38:18.549-07:00Toni,
Atleast SC is not a FOX plantToni,<br /><br />Atleast SC is not a FOX plantKGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14120359550438503094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-16337438413088172292010-05-17T16:35:29.276-07:002010-05-17T16:35:29.276-07:00Lets just have peivate firms that know so much abo...Lets just have peivate firms that know so much about education and Lobbying the government make 30% off of every education dollar. It works for health care, right?<br /><br />Let's just shovel more money to the rich as it has helped us immensely? What's up?<br /><br />365 Porsches is not enough for one<br />rich person, they need an additional one for leap year.KGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14120359550438503094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-73986470908917687632010-05-17T16:32:59.339-07:002010-05-17T16:32:59.339-07:00SC, I'm beginning to think you are a union pla...SC, I'm beginning to think you are a union plant being paid to post on local blogs.seattlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01231800476411684686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-78127247348185391622010-05-17T16:30:19.784-07:002010-05-17T16:30:19.784-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.seattlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01231800476411684686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-43107352758081210032010-05-17T16:27:20.353-07:002010-05-17T16:27:20.353-07:00Very succinct, KG. Thank you.Very succinct, KG. Thank you.seattle citizenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16724175257161649500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-64477007887196992872010-05-17T16:26:23.394-07:002010-05-17T16:26:23.394-07:00none1111, I myself might get into the "oppone...none1111, I myself might get into the "opponent can do no right" mode sometimes, and I regret it when it's inadvertant, but the way I see it, there are some groups out there that are doing the full-court press (and I mean press, including the Seattle media - see Seattle Times, see TVW...) to spread propaganda hither and yon. So rather than accomodate the propaganda, I prefer to "hold it acountable" by challenging it every way I can. I have no newspaper, I have no tens of thousands of dollars to buy "surveys," I have no advertising dollars to feed to media in exchange for relentless opinions pieces and articles that might give my side a voice.<br /><br />I feel that if I engage some of these groups (and you know who I mean) in debate on the merit of their recycled edu-prop, I am merely giving them validity, validity I don't think many of their representatives deserve.<br /><br />It's quite obvious that there is this full-court press (Gates -> Alliance/SPS -> Our Schools (including Washington Policy Center - I wonder if any of the minority communities that signed on with OSC realize who they're in bed with? "free market" indeed) -> push polls, op-eds, injection of Liv Finne's poorly articulated "research" into discussion on this blog...<br /><br />It's Edu-prop, and I'll take pot shots at it anytime I get a chance.<br /><br />If Ms Finne was not affiliated with the group she's affiliated with, a group that is injecting itself into local education because it beleives in a free market and will support union-busting at contract time to get it, then I'd be happy to debate the merits of these somewhat worn cliches ("merit pay!" "charter schools!" "principal autonomy!") but as they are merely mouthed by her organization, and by affiliation all the organizations that are buying that koolaide, I'd rather just see how many holes I can knock in their flimsy and repetitive talking points than debate them, thereby givnig them credence I don't beleive they deserve.<br /><br />I think Ms Merlo has every right to debate her points here, and hope she does (she's a citizen, and private school or no, Mercer Island or no, debate is healthy: her perspectives might be illuminating) But from the get-go I sensed the same old cliches, and immediately found out that her name is next to Ms Finne's on the minutes of the State debate on SB 6696. NOw, whether she knows or is collaborating with Ms Finne is important: It's apparent that Ms Finne is serving as a mouthpiece for the free-marketeers who would just LOVE to get a piece of that yummy education pie, just a wee slice o' that green...So if she and Merlo are pals, that's relevant, no?seattle citizenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16724175257161649500noreply@blogger.com