tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post8531132471530796321..comments2024-03-18T16:51:10.406-07:00Comments on Seattle Schools Community Forum: Diane Ravitch Wraps Up the Atlanta Cheating ScandalMelissa Westbrookhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-28606371155566859262015-04-16T06:22:46.974-07:002015-04-16T06:22:46.974-07:00Diane Ravitch posted a 4th article about the Atlan...Diane Ravitch posted a 4th article about the Atlanta Teachers, on April 15.<br /><br />Before the convictions, the Guardian reported, "Atlanta Superintendent Hall (now deceased)gave principals 3 years to meet testing goals. Those who didn't were replaced. During her ten- year tenure, she replaced 90% of the principals. She received ($365,000) in bonuses." <br />The Atlanta Journal reported yesterday that the average bonus for charged teachers was $2,600.<br />The people who should be punished are those who created and drove the system and those who applied the screws so that people had to choose between their jobs or meeting impossible standards.Lindanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-5320957150466905062015-04-13T17:08:18.047-07:002015-04-13T17:08:18.047-07:00And then theres Beacon Hill!
Did that principal e...And then theres Beacon Hill!<br /><br />Did that principal ever pay back the bonus?Lionelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-450863580217050652015-04-08T21:45:36.416-07:002015-04-08T21:45:36.416-07:00Denial of FAPE is breaking the law. And it is ste...Denial of FAPE is breaking the law. And it is stealing from children. Bingo ' s ignorance of that is a crime too.mirmac1https://www.blogger.com/profile/10183460709639638172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-14480194889729665882015-04-08T20:53:30.680-07:002015-04-08T20:53:30.680-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.lowell parenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03091383733032128733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-70350261262159101892015-04-08T20:26:29.045-07:002015-04-08T20:26:29.045-07:00Yikes,
what a bunch of pathetic liberals you all a...Yikes,<br />what a bunch of pathetic liberals you all are.<br />The teachers and administrators systematicly got students to cheat and then covered up there actions.<br /> They betrayed the children that they were tasked to care for. All of this so that they could get bonuses. It wasn't about impossible standards, it was about greed and corruption that went on for years.<br /> Of course all the other corruption should also be prosecuted, but just because it isn't does not excuse a group of educators from stealing from children. Stop making excuses for bad teachers.lowell parenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03091383733032128733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-29098490918273997032015-04-08T18:58:15.827-07:002015-04-08T18:58:15.827-07:00Black and women. That's the rub. Remember Mar...Black and women. That's the rub. Remember Martha Stewart? How many men have committed insider trading and suffered less? <br /><br />Black and women. Anybody who argues that is just plain ignorant.<br /><br />just sayin'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-57034530591141642712015-04-07T11:17:52.655-07:002015-04-07T11:17:52.655-07:00Comments like those from CCA make me wonder why I ...Comments like those from CCA make me wonder why I bother. I give up and will not support these type of ridiculous notions. The color of the teachers shin did not effect the black jury members or maybe it did? Just Maybe they are tired of seeing another black person on trial for a crime they did not need to commit. I personally do buy in to these ridiculous conspiracy theories. I also suppose the black principles were pressured by Mr White to force the teachers to cheat.<br /><br />The extent of the test-cheating scandals around the country remains unknown because they are hard to find and prove. In Atlanta, the case developed only with the determination of two governors who allowed investigators to do their work with as much time and subpoena power as they needed.<br /><br />Beacon Hill Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-19036540196607732532015-04-07T07:30:40.215-07:002015-04-07T07:30:40.215-07:00Interesting how many bankers lied about mortgages ...Interesting how many bankers lied about mortgages and cheated, and no one went to jail yet teachers cheat because they don't want their schools disrupted again, they go to jail. Better to be a banker than a teacher.<br /><br />HPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-33503074309925417352015-04-06T21:27:26.870-07:002015-04-06T21:27:26.870-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-62744567265993601282015-04-06T20:58:37.716-07:002015-04-06T20:58:37.716-07:00Comment at 8:55 is from CCAComment at 8:55 is from CCAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-36431693702267167602015-04-06T20:55:42.992-07:002015-04-06T20:55:42.992-07:00They're all black. Would they have received 20...They're all black. Would they have received 20 years if they were white? Remember the poor black sngle mother who let her kid walk three blocks to the park instead of sitting in McDonald's while she worked, who got jailed and her kids removed by CPS? Recently there was a story on Salon about a white couple complaining about how the police contacted them three times (three different incidents) over their child riding a bike and walking several blocks alone. No jail, no CPS, not even a ticket - not that I think they should have been, just that if they were poor and minority they would have lost their kids! Sigh, just a few years ago I never noticed the rampant institutional racism, not until the news stories of the police killing all the unarmed black and Native Americans. Now it's hard to not see the blatant disparities. The horrible Chase CEO who lied and cheated and caused untold miseries and people losing their homes and savings - he didn't even lose his bonus or his job! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-22953176252356023122015-04-06T19:08:39.817-07:002015-04-06T19:08:39.817-07:00They muzzle teachers here don't they?
- seafa...They muzzle teachers here don't they?<br /><br />- seafarerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-13664205289369278902015-04-06T18:31:40.754-07:002015-04-06T18:31:40.754-07:00Wow 20 years?? That's ridiculous. A baseball ...Wow 20 years?? That's ridiculous. A baseball player who got caught taking performance enhancing drugs to improve his stats got suspended for maybe 50 games. I understand that this is a little bit more serious because of the students involved but my god 20 years?? Crazy!!!<br /><br />OmgAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-15383188231416145162015-04-06T15:38:43.719-07:002015-04-06T15:38:43.719-07:00Section 1961(10) of Title 18 provides that the Att...Section 1961(10) of Title 18 provides that the Attorney General of the United States may designate any department or agency to conduct investigations authorized by the RICO statute and such department or agency may use the investigative provisions of the statute or the investigative power of such department or agency otherwise conferred by law. Absent a specific designation by the Attorney General, jurisdiction to conduct investigations for violations of 18 U.S.C. § 1962 lies with the agency having jurisdiction over the violations constituting the pattern of racketeering activity listed in 18 U.S.C. § 1961.[3]<br /><br />In the U.S., civil racketeering laws are also used in federal and state courts.<br /><br />The Atlanta scheme would never work in SPS, because SPS teachers don't ever listen to the principle. Atlanta must be non-union.<br /><br />OH OUIAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-81177275914086325282015-04-06T14:55:32.346-07:002015-04-06T14:55:32.346-07:00http://www.cbs46.com/story/15036469/teacher-implic...http://www.cbs46.com/story/15036469/teacher-implicated-in-cheating-speaks-only-with-cbs-atlanta-news<br /><br /><br />http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/07/21/wrong-answer<br /><br /><br />NEmom<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-13808707961867635202015-04-06T14:21:19.535-07:002015-04-06T14:21:19.535-07:00What's pathetic, the crime or the punishment? ...What's pathetic, the crime or the punishment? <br /><br />YikesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-62070635568960569842015-04-06T13:45:07.248-07:002015-04-06T13:45:07.248-07:00In Atlanta, teachers were convicted of raketeerin...In Atlanta, teachers were convicted of raketeering, for getting extra money from inflated test scores. Pathetic.<br /><br />Yeah right Cake Eater, would you be better off without a high school diploma? Call it a puppy mill if you like, but it works.<br /><br />Ridiculous Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-91136672563524175292015-04-06T13:36:33.940-07:002015-04-06T13:36:33.940-07:00I just read NEP comment and a little vomit came up...I just read NEP comment and a little vomit came up. How dare someone hold teachers to any legal standard. It's not like they stole money or something illegal. <br /><br />YikesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-38672577476425033632015-04-06T12:00:48.470-07:002015-04-06T12:00:48.470-07:00Wow, thank you for this, Melissa. The way the Atl...Wow, thank you for this, Melissa. The way the Atlanta teachers have been treated has "felt" wrong to me--especially leading them out in shackles--but I've been unable to articulate why until now. <br /><br />Also, I'm not entirely clear why people are focussing so much ire and anger at teachers. They are the middle-people in all of this. And they are the ones who are trying, seemingly against all odds, to try to teach our kids as well as they can in a broken system. While we have had our share of ineffectual (and wacky) teachers, for the most part, we are extremely grateful for the teachers and education our kids have gotten in the public school system.<br /><br />North End ParentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-17701202370459944162015-04-06T11:40:01.626-07:002015-04-06T11:40:01.626-07:00Yes! Prison time or even execution for teachers wh...Yes! Prison time or even execution for teachers who don't agree with parents. <br /><br />Off with their heads, Marie Antoinette!Bingonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-7464306982602054582015-04-06T10:20:06.350-07:002015-04-06T10:20:06.350-07:00Teachers cheat students out of FAPE every year and...Teachers cheat students out of FAPE every year and district administrators condone the practice.<br /><br />I think denying FAPE should result in resignations or jail time if you are a habitual offender. <br /><br />Our puppy mill style public school system needs to change and I don't mean the SPS squeaky wheel parent method of change. <br /><br />Eat CakeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com