tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post8776444164422147107..comments2024-03-29T02:41:52.718-07:00Comments on Seattle Schools Community Forum: Wilson-Pacific; a New WrinkleMelissa Westbrookhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comBlogger71125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-58234335084787419172013-10-06T23:57:59.686-07:002013-10-06T23:57:59.686-07:00"former dragon" suggested flipping the H..."former dragon" suggested flipping the Hamilton and Lincoln populations -- I'm old enough to remember when the Hamilton community was told that once all those BEX projects were finished using Lincoln as a home away from home, it would be remodeled as the "new" Hamilton MS<br /><br />sandi kurtzAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-64390600475578813142013-10-03T20:13:30.340-07:002013-10-03T20:13:30.340-07:00Don't count on it Lynn. I'm sure they'...Don't count on it Lynn. I'm sure they'll "embargo" it until right before the meeting. Got to have that element of *Surprise!*mirmac1https://www.blogger.com/profile/10183460709639638172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-74069190506195651052013-10-03T10:06:38.997-07:002013-10-03T10:06:38.997-07:00TC,
My guess is that it will discussed at the exe...TC,<br /><br />My guess is that it will discussed at the executive committee meeting on October 9th. I hope the updated presentation will be available online before the meeting. Lynnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-54138153064119846012013-10-03T08:15:32.398-07:002013-10-03T08:15:32.398-07:00It's not clear from the timeline when a re-dra...It's not clear from the timeline when a re-drafted proposal is due to be released. Is there a date scheduled for the release of any revisions before the staff presents them to the board?<br /><br />Thanks,<br />TCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-86178823211468751452013-10-03T07:43:32.736-07:002013-10-03T07:43:32.736-07:00It's not "word on the street" that t...It's not "word on the street" that the boundary plan is being redrafted. That was the plan the whole time. The district said it would take community input, update the plan, and redistribute. Of course a second version is coming out. Not everything has to be a conspiracy theory. Sheesh.<br /><br />Meeting AttendeeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-55967899158940928442013-10-03T07:31:17.752-07:002013-10-03T07:31:17.752-07:00Word on the street is the district is redrafting t...Word on the street is the district is redrafting the growth boundary plan. Stay tuned.<br /><br />watching&waitingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-70096964510772836332013-10-02T21:49:36.617-07:002013-10-02T21:49:36.617-07:00Eden, for someone new, you're a fast learner.
...Eden, for someone new, you're a fast learner.<br /><br />Number one (with a rocket) - we have almost zero inventory and cannot build fast enough.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12588239576000641336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-19139916799946526892013-10-02T21:29:22.823-07:002013-10-02T21:29:22.823-07:00Oh, and I quadruple like APP@hogwarts. yes, yes a...Oh, and I quadruple like APP@hogwarts. yes, yes and yes!!!<br />EdenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-11522700073411094682013-10-02T21:26:01.631-07:002013-10-02T21:26:01.631-07:00I wish that this blog had the like button as in FB...I wish that this blog had the like button as in FB. I would <br /><br />Like Kellie at 5:26 pm and 5:30<br />like Mellissa<br />Like Charlie Mas EXCEPT that I don't think it should be a 1-8. APP kids need to go off to middle school too. Besides, the projections would have it outgrow Lincoln pretty quickly with a 1-8.<br /><br />double like Julie's comment about Lincoln not being the greatest building but a much better alternative to being shuffled around every few years.<br /><br />triple like sleepers positive attitude and great ideas for solutions on how we can spruce up the building.<br /><br />but...dislike "I don't think Lincoln makes for a "normal" elementary school experience -- and IMO makes for a difficult experience."<br /><br />Hold on one minute. How, then, is it ok to "temporarily" locate 600 elementary school kids (and by temporarily I mean for 6 years!) in this building?<br /><br />I don't get it. It is some how ok to shove these kids into a building that is oversized "temporarily" but when it is suggest to make it their actual school for the long term it is a "difficult" experience.<br /><br />What is really difficult is that these kids keep getting punted to new locations every few years, and we are squatting in a building that we can't really make any improvements to because it isn't ours.<br /><br />As a brand spanking new parent in this district with a first grader at Lincoln, I personally would much prefer for the building to become ours permanently, and let the WP site be a middle school and high school. It is a much better alternative for SOOOOOO many reasons, and the ONLY draw back I see is that the building isn't ideal. But it is standing, and it isn't filled with mold and the high ceilings are kind of nice. <br /><br />Yes it is a funky space. My daughter has the upper locker and she can barely open it. Her rain coat has been there since the first day of school when I hung it up for her because she can't reach it and keep forgetting to ask her teacher to help her get it down.<br /><br />Reality check: There is a real lack of buildings in the district. <br />APP will already be bursting out of WP elementary before it even opens.<br />We need a high school to come on line sooner.<br /><br />What are the priorities? <br /><br />ok, rant over. <br />Eden<br />Eden<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />The reality is that come 2017 APP will not fit in the WP elementary building. And we need will need more high school space.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-58903901146367264782013-10-02T21:24:58.876-07:002013-10-02T21:24:58.876-07:00As a fellow Wallingfordian, I'd have to agree ...As a fellow Wallingfordian, I'd have to agree with "another resident". I don't really care much about a high school in Wallingford.<br /><br />I'd also be more than fine with my kids going to a high school at WP. It's straight shot up the 16 from Lincoln (and much of Wallingford) to WP.<br /><br />With different programs like IB, BioTech, etc., it's not also clear whether my kids would prefer the closest high school or not. I'm much more concerned about capacity and choice than location. <br /><br />JAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-8100563730132033392013-10-02T17:51:28.934-07:002013-10-02T17:51:28.934-07:00"Resident" - perhaps you were not close ..."Resident" - perhaps you were not close enough to Lincoln when it was used by Ballard to know how badly those HS students with cars clogged the streets in the morning and afternoons? They'd frequently drive 40mph down some of the side streets in an effort to get to school on time, Plus, parking is hard enough in Wallingford, and when the HS students couldn't park in the parking lot, they parked everywhere else. I can't tell you how many times access to our driveway was blocked or partially blocked by a HS student's car. And the before school/after school traffic made 45th, Stone, Interlake, and many of those other small side streets an absolute mess - way worse than they are now. WP has much better access to major arterials - and Metro routes - and I would much prefer Lincoln to be used by elementary or MS students. <br /><br />Another "resident"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-63159382548063741212013-10-02T17:21:48.848-07:002013-10-02T17:21:48.848-07:00Resident, no one said that "all bets are off....Resident, no one said that "all bets are off." I didn't and no one has the power to say anything is a done deal. It's an idea. Also, it would easier for QA students to get to W-P than Lincoln. <br /><br />I have long advocated and told the story of how losing QA High was one of the worst mistakes this district ever made. I just told a tableful of Coe parents this at the Meany meeting.<br /><br />Chris S., yes, that's pretty much the situation.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12588239576000641336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-43675893024509013112013-10-02T15:11:48.087-07:002013-10-02T15:11:48.087-07:00Also.... "Normal" is long gone. "S...Also.... "Normal" is long gone. "Safe" is on its way out the door. Welcome to SPS.<br /><br />chris S.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-67744261752531810182013-10-02T14:52:51.769-07:002013-10-02T14:52:51.769-07:00In spite of the sinking swampiness of the SPD land...In spite of the sinking swampiness of the SPD land, I think the district should seriously consider obtaining any extra real estate they can. I mean, it would be better to get Oak Tree back, but how likely is that? I'm sure we can find a use for it - Native American Heritage? Pinehurst? Interim? You name it, we need it.<br /><br />Chris S.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-43039823635853626442013-10-02T14:51:56.237-07:002013-10-02T14:51:56.237-07:00Yes, that is what I meant- there would be no w-p c...Yes, that is what I meant- there would be no w-p catchment area, so everyone would still have option schools. Thanks for clarifying that for me, Maureen and Lynn.<br /><br />-sleeperAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-36930548127067919852013-10-02T14:27:44.225-07:002013-10-02T14:27:44.225-07:00Yes Melissa, but no other neighborhood has a Seatt...Yes Melissa, but no other neighborhood has a Seattle public high school building sitting here waiting to be occupied. We have dealt with Lincoln being an interim site for a long time now. We are ready to welcome home a resident high school population. <br /><br />I encourage you to visit families in this area and on Queen Anne who still look at the sold off building with anger. To be told that all bets are off and the kids are headed for Wilson Pacific would be taken very hard. <br /><br />We are considering other neighborhoods. Wilson Pacific should be redeveloped, but not as a replacement for Lincoln.<br /><br />Sincerely, "Resident"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-46902793457667595782013-10-02T14:20:34.540-07:002013-10-02T14:20:34.540-07:00Resident, and that sentiment would be fine IF ever...Resident, and that sentiment would be fine IF every neighborhood had a high school. They don't and Lincoln has not been a permanent high school in a long time. <br /><br />I understand where you are coming from but consider other neighborhoods as well.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12588239576000641336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-31535315013692090402013-10-02T13:22:48.325-07:002013-10-02T13:22:48.325-07:00Yes HP.
Regarding the placement of the Indian He...Yes HP.<br /> Regarding the placement of the Indian Heritage School/Program on the Licton Springs site, as you mentioned "a clear cultural connection to the land is a powerful argument." Hopefully this connection will be respected and honored. <br /><br /> The springs served as a location for spiritual gatherings for the Duwamish peoples where they would gather annually. An Indian friend shared with me recently that she still visits the springs for their healing powers.<br /><br />There is an excellent article posted by Matt Remle in Lastrealindians.com-sacred-rites of saving licton springs" which discusses the District's plans concerning Licton Springs and the Indian Heritage Program/School. <br /><br /> <br />Thank you for your interest.Carol Simmonsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-29138232018692090152013-10-02T13:08:48.546-07:002013-10-02T13:08:48.546-07:00NW Mum,
I think the point was that each middle sc...NW Mum,<br /><br />I think the point was that each middle school attendance area has to have an option school. If Wilson Pacific Middle School were to be all-APP, it would not have an attendance area. (It would be a service school I believe - but definitely not an option school.)Lynnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-71776159170040722322013-10-02T13:03:10.985-07:002013-10-02T13:03:10.985-07:00KUOW now running piece with defenders of Garfield&...KUOW now running piece with defenders of Garfield's froshing.<br /><br />As I posted yesterday, readers will be surprised how entrenched and accepted -by many current school parents!who looked forward to this tradition for their own students this is. The vibe coming from a significant section of Garfield community today is MYOB. Yes, families are angry with Mr. Howard for assuming authority on non-school premises,as opposed to being angry with the students. Students who don't participate in froshing are defending those who do. <br /><br />Can forces outside the school force a change? I have doubts given the tolerance in much of the community itself - both kid and adult who are saying Chillax.<br /><br />Also, the district official response seemed pretty tepid. Anyone notice? "School district spokeswoman Teresa Wippel called it a “tradition” among the school’s students, one the school is continuing to work to stamp out."<br /><br /><br />"Been There" <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-84389700976314069672013-10-02T12:59:50.292-07:002013-10-02T12:59:50.292-07:00NW mum, I'm assuming sleeper meant that if WP ...NW mum, I'm assuming <b>sleeper</b> meant that if WP is an APP only school, it wouldn't have an associated attendance area, so wouldn't need an associated Option School. (Students who live around the WP site would have access to the Option school(s) associated with their address (Salmon Bay?).)Maureenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18444916440000921599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-71284500189812432982013-10-02T12:47:44.114-07:002013-10-02T12:47:44.114-07:00I was not aware that Licton Springs was considered...I was not aware that Licton Springs was considered a sacred site to Native Americans. This changes a lot. It is a clear reason to locate the Native American program at Wilson Pacific. A much stronger argument than the Middle College is in a mall cause it really isn't. Like the Center school, the Middle College at Northgate is in an office area and is a great location according to my cousin who is a teacher there.<br /><br />A clear cultural connection to the land is a very powerful argument.<br /><br />HPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-87594341752159519032013-10-02T12:40:41.788-07:002013-10-02T12:40:41.788-07:00Wallingford Calling.
We want our high school back...Wallingford Calling.<br /><br />We want our high school back.<br /><br />That is all.<br /><br />Sincerely, "Resident"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-25805744357613362942013-10-02T12:37:30.544-07:002013-10-02T12:37:30.544-07:00Here is the history of the Lincoln building.
It ...Here is the <a href="http://www.seattleschools.org/modules/groups/homepagefiles/cms/1583136/File/Departmental%20Content/history%20book/lincoln.pdf" rel="nofollow">history of the Lincoln building. </a><br /><br />It is going to be expensive to make this a high school. The whole thing is just a cobbled together network of additions with a variety of components from every decade. That makes the Wilson Pacific idea look even better.katienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-14093621365456372482013-10-02T12:35:17.778-07:002013-10-02T12:35:17.778-07:00Sleeper,
You consider APP a legitimate Option Scho...Sleeper,<br />You consider APP a legitimate Option School?<br /><br />I believe 98% of students have no chance to attend.<br /><br />Heritage is culturally focused.<br />Another option that is not an option for the general population.<br /><br />NW mumnoreply@blogger.com