tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post8836691525113504828..comments2024-03-28T02:21:17.452-07:00Comments on Seattle Schools Community Forum: Pearson Shown to Be Spying on Student on Social MediaMelissa Westbrookhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-66630042467566352032020-06-17T06:41:29.574-07:002020-06-17T06:41:29.574-07:00Spying can be easy nowadays with spying applicatio...Spying can be easy nowadays with spying applications. I recommend to try <a href="https://mspylite.com/track/best-text-message-tracker-without-target-phone/" rel="nofollow">https://www.mspylite.com/</a> . It's an application that allows to spy on your spouse if you suspect your partner in cheating, want to track your kid's location or just to prank your friend.Aprilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06140095591550373185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-78028451151259107902016-10-25T06:21:11.394-07:002016-10-25T06:21:11.394-07:00The developer of the Highster Mobile has done the ...The developer of the Highster Mobile has done the best to make sure the spy app works perfectly with Android, <a href="http://topspyingapps.com/" rel="nofollow">have a quick peek</a> to find more.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00365440368469994795noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-38927641109910592342015-03-22T11:45:54.624-07:002015-03-22T11:45:54.624-07:00Parents can give Pearson (and their government spo...Parents can give Pearson (and their government sponsors) a mooning and shut them down quite easily. Just opt your kids out of online work at school. Tell them your kid will do internet-based research at home under YOUR supervision, not theirs. Come on parents show some backbone and quit selling out your own kids to these buttwipe muckheads.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-34340318418221861442015-03-18T14:02:08.835-07:002015-03-18T14:02:08.835-07:00My comments keep disappearing. Again. One was up...My comments keep disappearing. Again. One was up for long enough for swk to respond (at least I think the response was aimed at my comment), and then it disappeared.<br /><br />Melissa, can you look into it? Thanks.dwnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-9796919656198867202015-03-18T10:07:52.528-07:002015-03-18T10:07:52.528-07:00Patrick, you nailed it. Patrick, you nailed it. Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-11667156625312027302015-03-18T09:32:29.886-07:002015-03-18T09:32:29.886-07:00The big social media sites are not the only way ki...The big social media sites are not the only way kids share information. There are lots of smaller sites and e-mail that would be harder for Big Brother Pearson to monitor. Maybe monitoring e-mail should be expanded from counterterrorism to include possible copyright infringement???<br /><br />Discussing a question after the test is over is not cheating, it's free speech. You can't force someone to give up their free speech rights as a condition of receiving a mandatory public education.<br /><br />Maybe Pearson needs to put some thought into their tests and how they're administered. The College Board rotates questions in and out so that the same test isn't given at different times.<br />But bullying kids is easier than thinking.<br /><br />Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16260807460417787614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-44384455785720708402015-03-18T06:51:53.781-07:002015-03-18T06:51:53.781-07:00At my kid's university all the old tests are p...At my kid's university all the old tests are posted by the departments for each class. Students use them to study & prepare for exams. They compare & discuss solutions.<br /><br />It is not considered cheating. <br /><br />-HmpfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-51243771524894179792015-03-17T22:58:25.697-07:002015-03-17T22:58:25.697-07:00I don't get what we would lose if the test was...I don't get what we would lose if the test was invalidated for the entire state. Lynnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-7024520990031014162015-03-17T22:33:29.792-07:002015-03-17T22:33:29.792-07:00How the heck is Pearson supposed deal with kids if...How the heck is Pearson supposed deal with kids if, and since one kid got suspended by the super who is very unhappy about the monitoring it most likely happened, a photo of test questions is put on some social media site, whatever these kids use for that, the Pinterest? I mean Pearson has to fight back. Ya, the kids think it's a joke in these rich enclaves. No stakes at all testing for them, but if the test is invalidated for the whole state because of kids posting stuff, it's an even bigger waste of time and money.<br /><br />I hope all the negativity doesn't prompt such behavior in SPS students. <br /><br />Unfortunately social media is fair game for anyone from pervs to scammers to data miners. Be aware and keep your kids aware.<br /><br />Google knows you, the gov't knows all, Google keeps your discarded emails and who knows what. It's the new world and the kids should be more careful in general on line and particularly in regards to tests. I'm sure universities have had to deal with this too and treat it like plagiarism and expel students.<br />Don't mess with the man!<br /><br />AbeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-35742429229281456542015-03-17T19:54:07.559-07:002015-03-17T19:54:07.559-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-76100640674776397832015-03-17T18:07:13.380-07:002015-03-17T18:07:13.380-07:00I agree with most of your concerns about student p...I agree with most of your concerns about student privacy, but I don't think there's a reasonable expectation of privacy on Twitter. Twitter is a publishing platform, like Blogger. Tweets are public and searchable, by design. Many organizations search for their brands to see what people are saying about them. Some ask for things to be taken down, but they usually learn that doing that causes lots more people to care. It backfires from a keeping-it-quiet perspective, as it did in this case.TechyMomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04650916001250022778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-57401300212081257592015-03-17T17:34:08.488-07:002015-03-17T17:34:08.488-07:00If the K-12 chapter of Omega Theta Pi tweets or po...If the K-12 chapter of Omega Theta Pi tweets or posts wrong answers to the SBAC, will students who use them be placed on double-secret probation?seattle citizenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16724175257161649500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-44250477239853462302015-03-17T17:13:11.356-07:002015-03-17T17:13:11.356-07:00Social media? Yeah, I'd like to see Pearson go...Social media? Yeah, I'd like to see Pearson go to court to try to enforce this gag order against MINORS! Everyone talks about tests afterwards, in middle school, high school, college, professional certifications, whatever. IT.IS.NOT.CHEATING! People want to know how they did, if there's a question they weren't sure about they will discuss it with friends. This is why teachers at University have more than one version of each test, so you never have the same color test as your neighbors. No copying answers and kids who take tests later won't know which test version they will get. The fraternities and sororities even have test files on every teachers, collected from past members!<br />If individual teachers can have more than one test version, then so can a huge Corp. like Pearson. Nope, they're not worried about cheating. THEY.WANT.THE.DATA on the kids. Data is the Everlasting Gobstopper, the FREE money that will keep coming year after year, the gift of unimaginable riches that keeps on giving. Data is why Uber got all those billions in venture money, those gazillionaire investors aren't interested in the measly 20% that Uber robs from the poor drivers! Uber can get ALL the info on the riders - real names, banks, where they work, shop, party, who their friends and families are, their daily schedules etc. etc. The possibilities, as they say, are endless. Pearson can have files on every child in America from 3 yo to mid twenties and beyond if they can get every school to use their tests.<br />I'm curious, swk, do you work for one of these test companies? Holding some education profiteering, er, industry stocks, perhaps? "Cheating is cheating"? Get real, swk. Talking about a test they just took on social media is not cheating, whining, maybe.<br /><br />CCA<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-6774692698558430662015-03-17T16:50:09.913-07:002015-03-17T16:50:09.913-07:00Some students are being accused of cheating for ta...Some students are being accused of cheating for talking about the test after they have taken it with classmates who took it or with parents or adults who are not taking it. the cheating is that is costs money for a company to change test questions. Evidently they are cheating the test company out of profits, not cheating on the test. <br /><br />-HS ParentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-52365517821526863622015-03-17T15:32:11.115-07:002015-03-17T15:32:11.115-07:00Pearson also collects everything a student types i...<i>Pearson also collects everything a student types into the keyboard during the test including words or sentences that were typed and then deleted.</i><br /><br />That allows for some mischievous fun on test day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-55364195073445003752015-03-17T14:36:31.569-07:002015-03-17T14:36:31.569-07:00Well, that's not what this kid did (from most ...Well, that's not what this kid did (from most reports). <br /><br />Every single parent should worry about this kind of business overreaction to a test. We should wonder why, when and who is monitoring social media to spy on kids. <br /><br />Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-26861675831457838692015-03-17T14:25:33.795-07:002015-03-17T14:25:33.795-07:00Melissa, I'm not talking about that. I'm ...Melissa, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about sharing your test with someone else who hasn't yet taken the test.<br /><br />--- swkAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-49875185147457399112015-03-17T14:13:20.387-07:002015-03-17T14:13:20.387-07:00No SWK, talking to friends AFTER the test about wh...No SWK, talking to friends AFTER the test about what questions you found challenging/dumb is not cheating.<br /><br />Remember the Pineapple question? Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-40909409819603850642015-03-17T12:54:27.655-07:002015-03-17T12:54:27.655-07:00Cheating is cheating. If you're sharing with ...Cheating is cheating. If you're sharing with your peers the questions on a test --- whether that's a classroom final exam, an AP test, and/or a statewide standardized test --- prior to them taking it because you took it first, that's cheating.<br /><br />This is usually spelled out in student rights and responsibilities and/or code of conduct handbooks and parents usually sign that they've read it. <br /><br />If a student is caught cheating and the cheating was clearly a violation of student responsibilities and code of conduct, it's highly doubtful that a student could claim free speech and not get their claim laughed out of court.<br /><br />--- swkAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-13187972401480346042015-03-17T12:45:39.091-07:002015-03-17T12:45:39.091-07:00From another angle (and I admit I know next to not...From another angle (and I admit I know next to nothing about AP):<br /><br />Doesn't the Advanced Placement testing deal with these inevitable issues by giving tests in one time zone at a time, and then changing the questions when the testing goes to the next time zone?<br /><br />Granted, these Pearson tests involve many more students. But I don't hear the AP test people blaming the students. Instead, they<br />seem to anticipate any validity risks from student sharing by taking it upon themselves to plan and institute their own technology safeguards before giving the tests. <br /><br />It's really pathetic that Pearson thinks they can control their own security inadequacies through intimidation and blame. The fact that NJDOE has gone along and played enforcer demonstrates just how powerful and far-reaching this monstrosity has become.<br /><br />--enough alreadyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-13957605955479520232015-03-17T12:33:26.234-07:002015-03-17T12:33:26.234-07:00I'm calling BS on Responsible Speech.
Should ...I'm calling BS on Responsible Speech.<br /><br />Should we requie that students don't talk to each other, too.<br /><br />Students shouldn't be taking screen shots of test questions, but don't try and limit a person's speech.Calling BSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-26152809440618012772015-03-17T12:31:01.505-07:002015-03-17T12:31:01.505-07:00There is a movement aimed at using twitter to over...There is a movement aimed at using twitter to overload Pearson's system.<br /><br />Please consider adding #Pearson to your twitter posts; it doesn't matter if you are talking about grandma's macaroni and cheese recipe. <br /><br />Mischevious Onenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-69487301829672693192015-03-17T12:14:25.577-07:002015-03-17T12:14:25.577-07:00I would be interested to see what a lawyer has to ...I would be interested to see what a lawyer has to say about this gag order on testing. I can't believe that it would stand up in court (god, I hope not). In fact, it looks like the testing companies wrote these "rules" broadly in hopes they get at least 70% of what they want.<br /><br />Adults have to sign gag orders when they work at certain companies, but kids do not volunteer to "work" at the school they are assigned to. Many times families can't even choose the school - they go where they are told. Combine this with the fact that we are talking about children, and I can't believe that this is legal.<br /><br />-not AtticusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-77860716171424882342015-03-17T11:59:33.788-07:002015-03-17T11:59:33.788-07:00Interesting followup piece by Mr.Braun here
The ...Interesting followup piece by Mr.Braun here<br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.bobbraunsledger.com/the-brave-new-world-of-testing-expands/" rel="nofollow">The Brave New World of testing expands</a><br /><br />This is what Pearson & NJ officials agreed constitutes a "breach"<br /><br /><i>“Revealing or discussing passages or test items with anyone, including students and school staff, through verbal exchange, email, social media, or any other form of communication.”</i><br /><br />pretty broad strokes there<br /><br />reader47<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-15832598584168886602015-03-17T11:47:34.772-07:002015-03-17T11:47:34.772-07:00Reader, it may appear that students have First Ame...Reader, it may appear that students have First Amendment rights but, if they use them, it's called cheating by the school, district, state ed department and the testing company. <br />Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.com