tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post1974158016542801728..comments2024-03-28T02:21:17.452-07:00Comments on Seattle Schools Community Forum: The Stranger Endorses BUETOW; Rescinds Endorsement of Martin-MorrisMelissa Westbrookhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-27833151585039068282011-11-08T11:02:14.148-08:002011-11-08T11:02:14.148-08:00I'm really troubled by Director Martin-Morris&...I'm really troubled by Director Martin-Morris' claim that "<i>That's the way the process is supposed to work.</i>" when he can make a call to the superintendent and unilaterally authorize the amendment of a motion before the Board.<br /><br />Shouldn't this require an amendment to the motion approved by a vote of the Board?Charlie Mashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17173903762962067277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-43250333153406809042011-11-08T09:22:30.438-08:002011-11-08T09:22:30.438-08:00Mr. Ed,
At least the Stranger is no longer ignor...Mr. Ed,<br /><br /><br />At least the Stranger is no longer ignorant. See, ANYONE can learn.<br />.....<br /><br />I am not convinced that "Anyone can learn".<br /><br />Do not leap from the Stranger to the School Board.... I find little evidence of learning for the Board as a body over the last four years.dan dempseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15536720661510933983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-56464134133567727722011-11-08T09:16:51.765-08:002011-11-08T09:16:51.765-08:00Dear Jan,
You said "If they had, someone cou...Dear Jan,<br /><br />You said <i>"If they had, someone could have clued in the <b>"clueless"</b> before this ever hit HMM's rubber stamp."</i><br /><br />WSDWG said <i>"We pay for the schools, but the Board and Management act like <b>they own them.</b> "</i><br /><br />Public testimony and the "clueless" stamp are hardly an indication that the rubber-stamping would not occur.<br /><br />Check out the number of times that Carol Simmons and I wrote or testified to the Board to the Board that WAC 181-79A-231 requires a careful review of all options for closing the achievement gaps .... BEFORE making a judgement that conditions warrant using "Conditional Certificates" for TFA corps members to close achievement gaps. .... Public testimony 5 times and at least two letters.<br /><br />Number of Directors that voted against Authorizing the Superintendent to request "Conditional Certificates" to close the achievement gaps = ONE Betty Patu.<br /><br />Nope these folks were unable to admit they had been repeatedly wrong on this subject since at least November of 2010 .... just no stopping these folks from doing serious wrong..... and continuing to do serious wrong. So Joy Anderson filed a $230 appeal but the real solution is tossing 4 of these Directors out of Elected Office and having the Board simply give TFA notification that the contract will be terminated at the end of this school year.<br /><br />In about 24 hours we should know whether or not <i>"The Clueless Stamp"</i> could be applied to Seattle's Voters.dan dempseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15536720661510933983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-52809151283935175832011-11-07T18:57:36.231-08:002011-11-07T18:57:36.231-08:00No need for my first amendment soapbox tonight!
W...No need for my first amendment soapbox tonight!<br /><br />We pay for the schools, but the Board and Management act like they own them. <br /><br />Newsflash! The district is still our sandbox. Buckets & shovels too. <br /><br />WSDWGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-86813243001525441822011-11-07T17:18:29.153-08:002011-11-07T17:18:29.153-08:00Sort of, mirmac. But in my opinion, it is an inst...Sort of, mirmac. But in my opinion, it is an instance of governance "taking into account public comment and reaction to an initially bad policy." The thing(s) that are too bad are:<br />1. That we have people in a position to write policies who are so weak (in terms of understanding federal and state laws on freedom of the press, public values supporting freedom of the press, and the welfare of students in terms of having a voice).<br />2. That we have a District and a board that would get this far on stuff like this with absolutely ZERO public input (really, District -- all that stuff about community engagement that you so routinely ignore -- a LITTLE bit of that would have prevented all this); and<br />3. that we have a board member (HMM) who chairs the committee overseeing this who is as clueless as HMM. The GOOD news is that the election is tomorrow, and maybe a few folks haven't voted yet.<br /><br />The District even working in the dark with blind moles for scribes should not have come out with such a flawed proposal. BUT they should also have had/asked for community engagement at an earlier stage. If they had, someone could have clued in the "clueless" before this ever hit HMM's rubber stamp.Janhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09923777229601243321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-88641360850061089432011-11-07T14:59:55.590-08:002011-11-07T14:59:55.590-08:00Governance by flip-flop.Governance by flip-flop.mirmac1https://www.blogger.com/profile/10183460709639638172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-10383721899691337662011-11-07T14:55:11.427-08:002011-11-07T14:55:11.427-08:00this just in...
From KUOW Newsroom: Seattle School...this just in...<br />From KUOW Newsroom: Seattle School District reverses course on student speech restriction. The district will keep its current policy: freedom of the press. Details this afternoon on KUOW 94.9 FM.<br /><br />-go team free speechAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-47384938778943647492011-11-07T14:54:46.317-08:002011-11-07T14:54:46.317-08:00The backing-off is now on the SPS website:
"S...The backing-off is now on the SPS website:<br />"School District, board agree to withdraw proposed policy governing student freedom of expression"BLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-54885707505302021652011-11-07T14:53:18.725-08:002011-11-07T14:53:18.725-08:00BTW, Phyllis Fletcher is reporting that the Board ...BTW, Phyllis Fletcher is reporting that the Board is backing off: https://twitter.com/#!/phylfletch/status/133673415646253056protected statichttp://blog.protectedstatic.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-10249159628112182602011-11-07T14:00:55.730-08:002011-11-07T14:00:55.730-08:00thanks Patrick and Mirmac; glad to have that sorte...thanks Patrick and Mirmac; glad to have that sorted out. <br /><br /><br /><br />no longer confused <br /><br />WV: alizeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-78390660126492274062011-11-07T13:30:13.920-08:002011-11-07T13:30:13.920-08:00Kudos to the Stranger. I very much respect when so...Kudos to the Stranger. I very much respect when someone can admit they got it wrong, and then correct heir error.<br /><br />Murky WaterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-23275059978561013382011-11-07T13:12:09.078-08:002011-11-07T13:12:09.078-08:00It's that, at times prescient, Word Verificati...It's that, at times prescient, Word Verification box under your comment.<br /><br />WV: cathroon...uh, I got nothin'mirmac1https://www.blogger.com/profile/10183460709639638172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-28636159264666612182011-11-07T13:12:01.382-08:002011-11-07T13:12:01.382-08:00Confused, "W.V." is Word Verification, t...Confused, "W.V." is Word Verification, the semi-random letters you copy in order to post.Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16260807460417787614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-6195191239866955452011-11-07T13:10:51.326-08:002011-11-07T13:10:51.326-08:00Good, but would have been more helpful a few days ...Good, but would have been more helpful a few days ago. Most people have probably sent their ballots already.Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16260807460417787614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-49880601008163086002011-11-07T13:10:32.647-08:002011-11-07T13:10:32.647-08:00This is great! Someone actually published a piece...This is great! Someone actually published a piece about HMM's ignorance. Did he think they wouldn't actually check district policies?? He's probably thinking that they crossed boundaries by checking the policies, just like he complained that board members should just take staff's word that something was done and not challenge staff claims.Michael Hnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-36999235830796309302011-11-07T13:09:22.233-08:002011-11-07T13:09:22.233-08:00what is WV:?
confusedwhat is WV:? <br /><br />confusedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-55481042238245549532011-11-07T12:56:16.820-08:002011-11-07T12:56:16.820-08:00The "uppers" must've kicked in.
WV:...The "uppers" must've kicked in.<br /><br />WV: Victory is "surtin"!mirmac1https://www.blogger.com/profile/10183460709639638172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-69110270908470284132011-11-07T12:56:12.131-08:002011-11-07T12:56:12.131-08:00Clearly, Martin-Morris doesn’t think state and fed...Clearly, Martin-Morris doesn’t think state and federal laws are “real” enough.<br /><br />Dan, are you out there? That explains a lot, doesn't it? Can't wait for you to jump all over that one!<br /><br />Cheers!Chris S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17016898261120819596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-42076628714218400172011-11-07T12:43:08.207-08:002011-11-07T12:43:08.207-08:00What? A school board member ignorant of policy?! H...What? A school board member ignorant of policy?! Heavens!<br /><br />At least the Stranger is no longer ignorant. See, ANYONE can learn.<br /><br />Mr. EdAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com