tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post2268302168158461962..comments2024-03-29T02:41:52.718-07:00Comments on Seattle Schools Community Forum: Seattle Capital ProgramsMelissa Westbrookhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-68477981047772855772014-02-16T19:41:15.374-08:002014-02-16T19:41:15.374-08:00Lynn, thanks for this.
First, I KNEW that the cos...Lynn, thanks for this.<br /><br />First, I KNEW that the costs from the Mann takeover (tenant occupancy, very funny) were not just $82k. To get it done will cost money.<br /><br />Second, why is Schmitz Park/Genesee Hill over budget. <br /><br />Third, they didn't build in F&E into JA middle school? <br /><br />Again, the City should run our faciltiies because clearly, clearly something is not right.<br /><br />No more excuses.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12588239576000641336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-25907060488067310522014-02-16T10:22:01.625-08:002014-02-16T10:22:01.625-08:00FF&E? Furniture, Fixtures, and Equipment? Does...FF&E? Furniture, Fixtures, and Equipment? Does that mean things like library books and equipment for science labs? Textbooks? <br /><br />wowAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-84178840489343072692014-02-16T08:44:24.612-08:002014-02-16T08:44:24.612-08:00Project status updates from the January BEX Oversi...Project status updates from the January BEX Oversight Committee meeting:<br /><br /><i> Horace Mann (Mike Skutack): A sixty-day acceleration plan is being developed to compensate for the delay caused by the extended tenant occupation of the building. Current considerations are to either pay for acceleration or negotiate to keep Nova at Meany an additional three months. A change order of $82,000 resulted from the contractor not being able to start the project as scheduled. This delay was caused by tenant occupancy. Acceleration would be an additional cost beyond the $82,000.<br /> Schmitz Park/Genesee Hill (Eric Becker): The project is about $1million over budget. It has been value engineered to the bottom line with nothing left to cut. The only way to reduce cost would be to reduce program area.<br /> Jane Addams Middle School: The budget does not fully cover FF&E; additional funding will have to be found elsewhere.</i><br />Lynnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-40309732567156704112014-02-15T18:41:58.897-08:002014-02-15T18:41:58.897-08:00Wait, high school might be a problem? They are ad...Wait, high school might be a problem? They are adding THREE middle schools. If we take out all the noise of what might be, the baseline for a planning cycle would generally then line up three high schools to follow the three middle schools and you would adjust up or down based on other capacity factors.<br /><br />The only high school in the works is Lincoln for 2019. We are going to need a minimum of two new high schools and that would be assuming growth at Rainier Beach as well as "increased utilization" at all the other high schools. <br /><br />To make this even more complicated, IMHO, I believe a planning principal for a new high school should start two years before the high school itself. <br /><br />SPS has shown it can open an elementary school in 6 months but that it needed a planning principal in place for the middle school at least 12 months in advance because a comprehensive school is more complex. High School is much much more complex than middle school. <br /><br />The "point" of middle school is to be ready for high school. But high school needs to set up so that students are ready for college and college entrance requirements are not fungible. <br />kelliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01322661098626555834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-26214832567273059162014-02-15T09:18:53.473-08:002014-02-15T09:18:53.473-08:00I wonder how much the construction delay will cost...I wonder how much the construction delay will cost and if the Nova community knows they won't be in their building next September as scheduled. Honestly, I don't understand why more people aren't outraged at how badly Superintendent Banda handled that situation. All of that time and money lost, the risk of damage to the building while it was 'occupied' and there was no benefit to anyone. What a mess. Lynnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-72049187841515221572014-02-15T07:12:40.233-08:002014-02-15T07:12:40.233-08:00Responding to Lynn's question about Nova: at t...Responding to Lynn's question about Nova: at the February 13 meeting regarding the new Meany Middle School, SPS staff said that Nova is scheduled to vacate somewhere between December 2014 and June 2015, depending on when the Mann building is finished. Seattle World School is scheduled to vacate in June 2016 (to the T.T. Minor building), and Meany is planned to reopen in fall 2017.<br /><br />I don't see the slides from that meeting on the official SPS page (http://bex.seattleschools.org/bex-iv/meany-middle-school/), but they have been posted by the Miller Park Neighbors group: http://millerparkneighbors.blogspot.com/2014/02/slides-from-thursday-21314-meany-school.html Parentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-70980591884910071532014-02-14T15:15:30.074-08:002014-02-14T15:15:30.074-08:00No Lynn and naturally no Board members asked about...No Lynn and naturally no Board members asked about Mann. Sigh.<br /><br />Well, yes, the logical place for a high school should be in or near downtown for Mag/QA.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12588239576000641336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-70876411619352489482014-02-14T14:27:51.566-08:002014-02-14T14:27:51.566-08:00Was there any discussion of the Mann building cons...Was there any discussion of the Mann building construction delay? They're going to have to either keep NOVA at Meany until winter break next year or accelerate the construction schedule (which sounds expensive to me.)Lynnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-5367869160866715982014-02-14T13:44:51.905-08:002014-02-14T13:44:51.905-08:00What about a HS at the Lawton site that the city i...What about a HS at the Lawton site that the city is proposing for housing on Magnolia? <br /><br />I think it's a better site than Interbay, personally, and maybe the city and SPS could switch b/c the Interbay site owned by SPS could have lots of uses - industrial, etc - but the Magnolia/Lawton site (the buildings left by army) can't really be all those uses. And I think the HS is less of an impact on Magnolia as a whole than a lot, lot more housing units would be. <br /><br />Signed: Thoughts?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-3196375951743065762014-02-14T13:09:53.992-08:002014-02-14T13:09:53.992-08:00Running out of interim site? Then why did they gi...Running out of interim site? Then why did they give away the Boren site on his watch? Doh!<br /><br />Increase HS capacity? Boren has housed HS students in the past. Or else kick Denny out of the space next to bustin'-at-the-seams Chief Sealth and place it in Boren. <br /><br />Oh wait. That's too sensible and not as appealing as STEM 1st graders at board meetings in Sounders scarfs.mirmac1https://www.blogger.com/profile/10183460709639638172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-16409838715403099402014-02-14T12:56:39.003-08:002014-02-14T12:56:39.003-08:00Heck Hale has pot shops and strip clubs near it al...Heck Hale has pot shops and strip clubs near it all up and down Lake City Way. My son went to school near the Seattle Center and had to wait for buses in some pretty seedy areas as a high school student. I found it to be character building and not dangerous at all during the day. He is a very independent young man now soon to be off to DC for college.<br /><br />HPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-39205224677183629802014-02-14T11:44:23.567-08:002014-02-14T11:44:23.567-08:00To Po3's Comment.
I couldn't agree more. ...To Po3's Comment.<br /><br />I couldn't agree more. While preschools are a key part of the equation, the discussion should be focused around a downtown K-12.<br /><br />-Downtown Dad <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-32630571225918513412014-02-14T11:20:14.510-08:002014-02-14T11:20:14.510-08:00There is a strip club two blocks from Whittier Ele...There is a strip club two blocks from Whittier Elementary - we used to walk by it every day on the way to school. At first I was angry about it but honestly it wasn't open in the mornings and I think i saw someone going in it in the afternoon twice in 4 years. Not that I think strip clubs should be near schools but it was a non-issue as far as The Sands being near Whittier. Jamienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-4296718169438744022014-02-14T10:43:49.244-08:002014-02-14T10:43:49.244-08:00Wow, looks like the police can get things done. Wh...Wow, looks like the police can get things done. What's going to happen to the old precinct? Wish SPS would lobby for some eminent domain for new sites. Why isn't anyone contacting the mayor? And what is happening to the old precinct?<br />-curiousAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-62216604918073975432014-02-14T10:43:43.552-08:002014-02-14T10:43:43.552-08:00Chatting a bit about a downtown school with a pres...Chatting a bit about a downtown school with a preschool? <br /><br />How about chatting a bit about a downtown high school. <br /><br />Maybe time to look into expanding the Center schools footprint and focus?Po3noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-50969504963840096182014-02-14T10:35:47.450-08:002014-02-14T10:35:47.450-08:00The city is moving its north precinct to 130th and...The city is moving its north precinct to 130th and Aurora. Should help with Ingraham, but maybe not so much with Ingraham but maybe not so much with Oak Tree. http://www.seattle.gov/northprecinctstation<br /><br />Is the strip club near Ballard within a couple of blocks? I thought there were rules about siting one near a school. The one by Oak Tree is literally the next block up the street from the Oak Tree property. I thought there were zoning rules about opening a strip club within a certain distance of an existing school...but if the strip club is there first, I wonder if that impacts it?<br /><br />A ParentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-83655930998492922822014-02-14T10:32:50.548-08:002014-02-14T10:32:50.548-08:00Still think they should make Blaine a high school ...Still think they should make Blaine a high school and remodel the old Magnolia elementary to be a K-8. Blaine wouldn't need to hold 1600 kids, it could hold less than 1000 and work for the QA/Mag/Belltown areas. Louisenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-70352314325753149792014-02-14T10:21:33.369-08:002014-02-14T10:21:33.369-08:00A Parent, there's a strip club near Ballad as ...A Parent, there's a strip club near Ballad as well.<br /><br />Hale has always wanted to stay small so I wouldn't think they would be happy with much growth. That said, if everyone has to be full to the max, then that means everyone.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12588239576000641336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-57212706540414666062014-02-14T10:18:25.770-08:002014-02-14T10:18:25.770-08:00I too live about a block from Oaktree; the footpri...I too live about a block from Oaktree; the footprint is actually pretty small. There'd be no room for athletic fields, but I suppose they could use some of the space at the nearby Wilson-Pacific site. I'm sure, with the North Precinct mere blocks away, the city would cooperate in pushing the unsavory elements a few blocks away (probably north, toward Ingraham. There's already a lot of prostitution and drug dealing in the blocks between 105th and 130th and on up.)<br /><br />Mind you, as a soon-to-be-teacher it'd be awesome to potentially be able to walk a block to my classroom!Josh Hayeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17242600011474990770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-40445983427435952552014-02-14T10:11:16.385-08:002014-02-14T10:11:16.385-08:00Wilson Pacific really should be a high school/midd...Wilson Pacific really should be a high school/middle school campus, but they are apparently too far down the road of the elementary/middle school planning to switch gears?<br /><br />Was there any mention of adding wings to any of the existing high schools?<br /><br />Of course, both Hale and Ingraham recently had renovations, but not ones that generated significant capacity.<br /><br />- North-end MomAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-70322868569517683262014-02-14T09:51:27.413-08:002014-02-14T09:51:27.413-08:00There is a strip club just down the street from Oa...There is a strip club just down the street from Oaktree. Like, literally, between Oaktree and 105th. Also, the gas station at 105th is an open air drug market and a great place to find a hooker. Not an ideal location for high schoolers to be catching the bus home. We live not too far away and plan to move out of the neighborhood before our oldest is old enough to be riding a Metro bus alone...but perhaps if the district builds a school there, the city might be forced to make an effort to clean the neighborhood up?<br /><br />A parentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-27276753037608508352014-02-14T09:37:09.636-08:002014-02-14T09:37:09.636-08:00Running out of room for high school? Who knew? (We...Running out of room for high school? Who knew? (We all did.) I was wondering if anyone else was thinking about the Advanced Learning delays in getting letters out, and if it was tied to capacity. If record numbers applied, wouldn't that mean record numbers could potentially get in? Does anyone else think AL might be panicking as they realize they have yet again failed to predict a surge that will have capacity ramifications, for all the APP designated schools?<br />-PessimistAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-85649113534505815632014-02-14T09:11:09.126-08:002014-02-14T09:11:09.126-08:00The lack of a demographer is a very big deal. The...The lack of a demographer is a very big deal. They're flying blind without one. Not that flying blind is anything new for this district, but c'mon.Jonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-676378361838151632014-02-14T08:24:56.275-08:002014-02-14T08:24:56.275-08:00Well, at least someone is actually saying these th...Well, at least someone is actually saying these things out loud.<br /><br />Still no demographer? Wow.<br /><br />- North-end MomAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com