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The test was revamped in 2016 as it was rapidly losing ground to the ACT, which was becoming as widely accepted by colleges as the SAT. After the SAT's redesign, the two tests are nearly interchangeable. Despite appearances, the College Board is NOT on the side of students, not even those affected by "adversity factors." The College Board is squarely on the side of the College Board, a "highly lucrative non-profit":<br /><br />"The College Board is a non-profit, but one with a yearly revenue of more than $750 million, according to the group's most recent publicly available 990 form" (from 2014 - https://www.businessinsider.com/the-sat-may-have-been-changed-to-help-college-board-maximize-revenue-2014-3).<br /><br />Happily an increasing number of excellent colleges and universities are now choosing to go test-optional. This is a boon for all students, as well as those with learning issues which make taking standardized tests a struggle. Some require a portfolio of work in place of test scores, others look more closely at other pieces of a student's application. All of these schools have found the quality of their students has not been affected by choosing not to require test scores. If your student scores poorly on standardized entrance exams, it's worth looking into one or more of these schools. <br /><br />Here is a current list of colleges for which submitting the SAT/ACT is considered optional for admissions:<br /><br />https://www.fairtest.org/university/optional<br /><br />-parent<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-74798272621492877372019-05-22T07:50:19.553-07:002019-05-22T07:50:19.553-07:00In a recent WBUR interview, guest David Coleman (C...In a recent WBUR interview, guest David Coleman (College Board CEO) suggested they are contemplating making a school's adversity score available. Time will tell. It's clear they are getting some pushback.<br /><br />"Will An SAT 'Adversity Score' Actually Address College Admission Disadvantages?" 5/21/19<br /><br />many unknownsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-77352046056909181012019-05-22T04:12:26.134-07:002019-05-22T04:12:26.134-07:00Watching the Ruth Bader Ginsburg documentary made ...Watching the Ruth Bader Ginsburg documentary made me realize that all women qualify for an adversity handicap as well. <br /><br />I'm glad I didn't have one though. I want to know where I stand and what I am up against in life.<br /><br />HeyLadyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-50191679381287462972019-05-21T16:06:17.180-07:002019-05-21T16:06:17.180-07:00This new thing should be great for gentrification....This new thing should be great for gentrification. I work as marketing director for Bud Tuggly Condobox Developers Unlimited, and we were doing high fives all around the office. Condos in the 'hood are up $100K since last week. (I also bet students at tough high schools are looking forward to providing some adversity to the kids who move in junior year to increase their adversity scores.)<br /><br />Realistically, though, I am afraid it will be a temporary bump. Soon everyone will realize that address and high school at the time of taking test, even if true, is not a reliable indicator of adversity. Lucky for the College Board, plenty of ed-tech companies will be happy to sell them huge data sets that trace your student's movements since pre-school. Adversity 2.0 will use all that data to calculate much more accurate scores.<br /><br />But why stop there? The scores would be even more accurate if they factored in parents' credit scores, criminal history, divorce and DYS records, credit card spending history, movements as recorded by mobile phone carriers, etc. All that data is for sale. Big Data will happily crunch it for a fee.Outsidernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-76097106152950231792019-05-20T09:43:17.786-07:002019-05-20T09:43:17.786-07:00Search "Data driven models to understand envi...Search "Data driven models to understand environmental context" for a PDF explaining Phase I of the College Board pilot (2016 application cycle). See also "Admissions tool collects data on students’ lives before Trinity" for perspective on the Phase II pilot. <br /><br />more readingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-80952128546398221662019-05-19T06:45:34.906-07:002019-05-19T06:45:34.906-07:00I that agree with the implication stated in the Fo...I that agree with the implication stated in the Forbes piece; colleges are busting their humps to improve their racial diversity metrics without directly using race as a criteria for admissions.<br /><br />It's the colleges that essentially create the market demand for the tests, so I'm betting this new feature came at the behest of colleges looking for a way to get ahead of the potential fallout from the upcoming lawsuits at Harvard.<br /><br />SPUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09937189205047097044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-31418355647616965172019-05-18T18:13:05.415-07:002019-05-18T18:13:05.415-07:00Ok. I don’t have children so I might not understa...Ok. I don’t have children so I might not understand this but what would keep people from lying about their address if it would help their score? Alsept Teresahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11535554754700688071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-75706966578513310082019-05-18T14:51:42.194-07:002019-05-18T14:51:42.194-07:00The Adversity score is about the College Board rec...The Adversity score is about the College Board recognizing that its tests are biased and offering a new product to soften its image and maintain its viability.Call me skepticalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-59949939056443299032019-05-18T10:51:52.140-07:002019-05-18T10:51:52.140-07:00Another good article from Forbes:
https://www.for...Another good article from Forbes:<br /><br />https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2019/05/16/four-reasons-why-the-college-boards-new-adversity-score-is-a-bad-idea/#554060416c0e<br /><br />"The College Board has not revealed the factors or their weights in calculating adversity scores beyond claiming that some of the data are from public sources and some are proprietary. This is unacceptable. If it refuses to disclose how adversity scores are calculated, the College Board should not expect the public to accept them.<br /><br />The fact that the College Board does not want students to know their adversity scores reflects their own discomfort with the concept. And for good reason. It’s a potential source of self-handicapping and self-fulfilling prophecy.<br /><br />At a time when standardized testing is under increased scrutiny and is even being discontinued or minimized as an admission tool by hundreds of colleges, one must wonder whether adversity scores are primarily an attempt to protect the SAT’s market or to promote social mobility. Colleges that are genuinely concerned about the bias built into the tests or the cheating associated with the SAT or the ACT, have a simpler choice: don’t require students to take them."Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-86565271707219500432019-05-18T10:35:25.712-07:002019-05-18T10:35:25.712-07:00A key point from the NYT opinion piece, by Thomas ...A key point from the NYT opinion piece, by Thomas Chatterton Williams:<br /><br />"...whatever one’s views on affirmative action, this new score introduces an inscrutable redundancy — one that cannot be disputed or appealed."<br /><br />There does not seem to be a way to confirm what personal information a student may have shared with the College Board, either when creating a College Board account or during test administration. The website provides a link to "Update your account" and shows basic info like name, address, high school, and parent contact info, but not info that a student may have shared about parental income and educational level, intended major, etc. Contacting the College Board directly may be the only route. <br /><br />many unknownsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com