tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post3448785258509039290..comments2024-03-28T02:21:17.452-07:00Comments on Seattle Schools Community Forum: Councilman Burgess Says, "Listen to Me" - What is It that the City Really Wants to Do?Melissa Westbrookhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-10557359782627233402016-06-02T22:17:20.496-07:002016-06-02T22:17:20.496-07:00Robert - I agree.
About profit - the curricula th...Robert - I agree.<br /><br />About profit - the curricula that the preschools are required to renew ever year, is expensive. Somebody is making a profit. One of the consultants used by the city appears to profit from the sales of that curricula. Every option legitimately analyzed by the city for preschool, was an expensive curriculum. Somewhere, money is driving this.<br />Catherinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-40131917535328094982016-06-01T15:40:51.642-07:002016-06-01T15:40:51.642-07:00The city cares so much for Seattle Public Schools ...The city cares so much for Seattle Public Schools that they poached a good principal from Rainier Beach High School. <br /><br />Robert,<br /><br />" City policy creates and reinforces them. Burgess has repeatedly blocked funding for important programs serving SE Seattle. He should be held directly accountable for that."<br />Please explain.Leonardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-68616738425383085982016-06-01T11:35:16.959-07:002016-06-01T11:35:16.959-07:00Well that is troubling, Catherine, especially give...Well that is troubling, Catherine, especially given that my son attends a Piaget-based school. I'm not surprised though. Tim Burgess says he's "data-driven" but he usually rejects data and research that doesn't fit his preconceived notions.<br /><br />Burgess wants education to be reduced to test prep. He doesn't see any value to any other aspect to education. If it's not connected to test scores, he thinks it's not relevant. And sadly, he's stacked the Levy Advisory Committee and the former Office for Education with people who share those damaging and flawed views.<br /><br />His newsletter here is revealing. He suggests that students in Northwest Seattle have everything they need, which is just not true. There are numerous needs unmet, whether it's having enough nurses and counselors to the ongoing problems with SpEd to small class sizes. There are a lot of homeless kids in those schools. There are kids who need family support workers. And so on.<br /><br />Yet the needs of schools in Southeast Seattle are even greater. What we need is this city to come together to meet all of those needs, and ensure that we don't leave kids and families in SE Seattle behind, as City Hall - including Tim Burgess himself - have repeatedly done.<br /><br />After all, the inequities Burgess mentions aren't just about the schools. City policy creates and reinforces them. Burgess has repeatedly blocked funding for important programs serving SE Seattle. He should be held directly accountable for that.<br /><br />Finally, about the list of things mentioned at the community conversations: some of those nine items were mentioned far more often than others. Very few people asked for charter schools or a city seat on the school board. But there was overwhelming and frequent support for things like a diverse teaching corps, for family supports, provide more access to instructional resources (like funding IB), smaller class sizes, and so on. People didn't ask for more test-driven policy.<br /><br />That's not anything new. It's the same thing we saw in 2010 when Mike McGinn convened the Youth and Families Initiative. But Burgess blocks funding for those things because he only cares about test scores - never about what community members want, even when they tell him themselves.Robert Cruickshankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06906581839066570472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-24619948015878566062016-06-01T08:56:02.234-07:002016-06-01T08:56:02.234-07:00Burgess doesn't know what "universal"...Burgess doesn't know what "universal" PreK is. His current program that he adores is not universal because it excludes the projected 520 preschool-age children with disabilities. He'll have to adjust his funding model once he is required to serve ALL children. Having multiple silo-ed preschools offered by agencies that receive Federal funds is not equitable or in accordance with Section 504 of the Rehab Act or ADA. mirmac1https://www.blogger.com/profile/10183460709639638172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-20303060360637456642016-06-01T08:24:13.655-07:002016-06-01T08:24:13.655-07:00I'll be honest, I don't think it's abo...I'll be honest, I don't think it's about profit (unlike some charter schools.)<br /><br />I'll let Catherine answer for herself but this reminds me of a thread I've been meaning to write.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-4295947961516526912016-06-01T07:41:14.943-07:002016-06-01T07:41:14.943-07:00Catherine, please excuse my naive question but how...Catherine, please excuse my naive question but how is Burgess' preschool program about profits? <br /><br />-JMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-41694565158261103932016-05-31T22:41:35.181-07:002016-05-31T22:41:35.181-07:00Tim Burgess said in my presence that Piaget had no...Tim Burgess said in my presence that Piaget had no theoretical basis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Piaget) which is blatantly false. <br /><br />His preschool program is in no way about outcomes. It's about profits. Plain and simple. I wish it wasn't so. <br />Catherinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-47719907076390274412016-05-31T19:47:33.623-07:002016-05-31T19:47:33.623-07:00The Godfather of Prek (Burgess) likes to call atte...The Godfather of Prek (Burgess) likes to call attention to the city's prek program, when, in fact, SPS was serving 1600 prek students before the city's prek initiative passed. Leonardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-18666760505554489562016-05-31T17:23:20.068-07:002016-05-31T17:23:20.068-07:00Missed the "had", but I believe folks st...Missed the "had", but I believe folks still speak as though is an on going issue. You can't read anything coming out of city hall these days without some sort erroneous reference to redlining as modern practice. As you can see below the practice was stopped long before most people alive today were born.<br /><br />Here's what I read, In <b>1948</b>, the court changed its mind, declaring that racial restrictions would no longer be enforced, but the decision did nothing to alter the other structures of segregation. It remained perfectly legal for realtors and property owners to discriminate on the basis of race. In 1968, Congress passed the Housing Rights Act, finally outlawing discrimination on the basis of race or ethnicity in the sale or rental of housing. Since then it has been illegal to act on the race restrictions that are embedded in so many deeds in Seattle and other King County communities.<br /><br />I still have not seen a deed with these so called race restriction on it. Maybe they have all been purged.<br /><br />These practices all happened long ago and I'm tired of people bringing it up as a modern practice which had some sort of negative impact on Seattle. Reality is, the CD has some of the more sought after properties in Seattle, so why is the CD becoming increasingly white and the North end becoming increasingly black? You don't think money has anything to do with what's happening do you. If you have the money you can live anywhere in Seattle you want regardless of the color of your skin or any fictional restrictive convenient.<br /><br />In the 60s I lived in one of the supposedly restricted neighborhoods and across the street lived a Jewish family and down the street a black family, so I say these stories are mostly false and if you speak to many people who lived in the CD they would tell you they preferred to live there. <br /><br />It's not illegal for me to choose who I sell my property to. Sellers turn down max offers frequently and I don't see any lawsuits being filed. <br /><br />End PC Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-33580935068975210292016-05-31T17:16:46.793-07:002016-05-31T17:16:46.793-07:00The city of Seattle rescinded Family and Ed Dollar...<br />The city of Seattle rescinded Family and Ed Dollars because a principal had to move across the country. It should be noted that the new principal was on board with the city's "plan". The city had to be shamed into returning tax-payer dollars to a high poverty school in north Seattle.<br /><br />http://kiroradio.com/listen/9987794<br /><br />The city's Family and Education Committee consists of approximately 12 individuals. They sit around a table and look at test results and make "course corrections". Clearly, their efforts have not provided results for the same kids they want to support.<br /><br />Tim BURGESS pitted the child care initiative against the Early Learning initiative. Burgess won't tell you this little piece of information. Meanwhile, Burgess, in all his brilliance, is allowing the city to spend $14.5 M on 15 prek classrooms.Leonardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-63366477202896831792016-05-31T16:51:07.114-07:002016-05-31T16:51:07.114-07:00Thanks, Documented and Johnny. And yes, I said &q...Thanks, Documented and Johnny. And yes, I said "had" meaning not on-going.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-31903215293890401212016-05-31T16:32:39.143-07:002016-05-31T16:32:39.143-07:00"End PC" said:
There is NO redlining go..."End PC" said:<br /><br /><i>There is NO redlining going on in Seattle. Where are your facts?</i><br /><br />But Melissa's blog post used the past tense:<br /><br /> <i>"And, naturally, he doesn't even mention that the City itself <b>had </b> quite a role in allowing red-lining to go on..." </i><br /><br />And there are facts available, cited in this article for example:<br /><br />http://www.seattlemag.com/article/seattles-ugly-past-segregation-our-neighborhoodsJohnny Calcagnohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12198948404356096884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-53705512684734767542016-05-31T16:32:00.194-07:002016-05-31T16:32:00.194-07:00http://depts.washington.edu/civilr/covenants.htm ...http://depts.washington.edu/civilr/covenants.htm Here is a list of restrictive covenants. Redlining refers to banks refusing to lend in certain areas, I think you are referring to Steering. <br /><br />DocumentedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-3247717237083741862016-05-31T16:18:48.539-07:002016-05-31T16:18:48.539-07:00There is NO redlining going on in Seattle. Where a...There is NO redlining going on in Seattle. Where are your facts? You keep repeatedly commenting on redlining in Seattle, but not one source can produce these so called covenants or deeds with language barring blacks. <br /><br />When pushed progressives change the story and say it was an undocumented practice by real estate agents back in the 60 and 70s. What they don't talk about is the role the Seattle housing Authority played in the concentration of blacks in these so called impoverished areas. <br /><br />End PCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com