tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post3951172799163443085..comments2021-07-24T23:56:44.120-07:00Comments on Seattle Schools Community Forum: Seattle Schools Explains Smarter Balanced TestingMelissa Westbrookhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-83044221468974905662015-03-04T09:00:08.406-08:002015-03-04T09:00:08.406-08:00@just fyi, thanks! That's exactly what I need...@just fyi, thanks! That's exactly what I needed to know. I don't care about Algebra in 6th grade, so the regular HCC placement is fine for us. Given that the only consequence seems to be the possibility of not getting into Algebra, I will be opting my child out of the upcoming Smarter Balanced testing.<br /><br />--Consequences Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-43409174496152586442015-03-04T08:58:46.855-08:002015-03-04T08:58:46.855-08:00Yes, HIMSmom.
Only if you anticipate your [curre...Yes, HIMSmom. <br /><br /><i>Only if you anticipate your</i> [currently enrolled in elementary HCC - Lincoln, Fairmount, or TM] <i>child wanting to accelerate to Algebra 1 in 6th grade...would the math matrix criteria be of concern</i> [to a currently enrolled in elementary HCC student].<br /><br />Otherwise, <i>If your child is not in HCC, but in Spectrum or at your neighborhood school, then the math placement matrix would allow for acceleration to the APP level math pathway or beyond.</i> "Or beyond" should include Algebra 1 in 6th, but it's my understanding individual non-HCC middle schools may discourage such placement. <br /><br />The original question was about opting out of SBAC as a current 4th grader. If enrolled in HCC and not anticipating taking Algebra 1 in 6th, there may be little risk in opting out (but who knows?, the rules seem to keep changing). If not enrolled in HCC, but anticipating accelerating along the math pathway come middle school, then opting out of SBAC may not be in your student's best interest. <br /><br />my 2centsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-35888648038658802492015-03-04T08:25:58.140-08:002015-03-04T08:25:58.140-08:00Only if you anticipate your child wanting to accel...<i>Only if you anticipate your child wanting to accelerate to Algebra 1 in 6th grade (and they are currently in APP/HCC) would the math matrix criteria be of concern. If your child is not in HCC, but in Spectrum or at your neighborhood school, then the math placement matrix would allow for acceleration to the APP level math pathway or beyond. </i><br /><br />Essentially, any student--whether coming from HCC, Spectrum, ALO or GenEd--can qualify for Alg 1 in 6th if they have the scores. Isn't that right? <br /><br />HIMSmom Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-44149572700698844592015-03-04T07:42:29.688-08:002015-03-04T07:42:29.688-08:00@Consequences, you are right, the math matrix will...@Consequences, you are right, the math matrix will need to change for next year's 5th graders. Will they use SBAC? I doubt they have made that decision - my guess is they are waiting for results of SBAC. The current matrix was decided upon based on a correlation of 4th grade MSP scores and success in Algebra. 4th grade scores were used because 5th grade scores weren't available in time for placement decisions. With SBAC, which is computerized, is it possible they will move to using 5th grade SBAC scores, rather than 4th grade scores? SBAC scoring will potentially have a shorter turnaround time than MSP scoring. The added complication is not all schools administer MAP. Is the district's contract with NWEA expiring? <br /><br />Here's my understanding: If your child is in APP@Lincoln, then the default math placement would be 8th grade math (CMP3) in 6th grade. Only if you anticipate your child wanting to accelerate to Algebra 1 in 6th grade (and they are currently in APP/HCC) would the math matrix criteria be of concern. If your child is not in HCC, but in Spectrum or at your neighborhood school, then the math placement matrix would allow for acceleration to the APP level math pathway or beyond. <br /><br />-just fyiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-45599511726995180182015-03-04T07:11:16.535-08:002015-03-04T07:11:16.535-08:00Thanks Lynn, but the matrix for math placement you...Thanks Lynn, but the matrix for math placement you link to relies on 4th grade MSP results. Since this year's 4th graders won't take the MSP, I worry that they will use Smarter Balanced as a substitute. I am not clear what happens with math placement if I have opted my daughter out of the test. <br /><br />--Consequences?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-57259292741184561072015-03-04T06:37:57.295-08:002015-03-04T06:37:57.295-08:00Eric M,
Don't forget the enormous sums spent ...Eric M,<br /><br />Don't forget the enormous sums spent on training teachers to teach to the Common Core.<br /><br />David EdelmanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-61056393075139310542015-03-03T23:25:00.283-08:002015-03-03T23:25:00.283-08:00Recent OSPI testing statistics place the 4th grad...Recent OSPI testing statistics place the 4th grade MSP score of 525 in the 97-98%ile range, and looks to be equivalent to missing at most 2 questions on the math MSP. <br /><br />https://www.k12.wa.us/assessment/StateTesting/TestStatistics.aspx<br /><br />-just fyiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-68035953758781371082015-03-03T22:28:35.995-08:002015-03-03T22:28:35.995-08:00Consequences,
I found info on 6th grade math plac...Consequences,<br /><br />I found info on <a href="http://www.seattleschools.org/modules/groups/homepagefiles/cms/1583136/File/Departmental%20Content/advanced%20learning/2015-16%20middle%20school%20math%20placement%20matrix.pdf?sessionid=c2bcc4eef8baa6d584ca2af3ca5b820a" rel="nofollow">6th grade math placement</a> on the Advanced Learning website.Lynnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-70963403470976808752015-03-03T21:03:53.583-08:002015-03-03T21:03:53.583-08:00Does anyone have a solid idea on how much SPS has ...Does anyone have a solid idea on how much SPS has very quietly spent on technology infrastructure and labor to support SBAC? It seems to be a well-kept secret. It's in the MILLIONS. Wireless networks, tavlets and Chromebooks, 30 or so new hires....Eric Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17663977355241677800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-32656344219613851702015-03-03T19:15:03.014-08:002015-03-03T19:15:03.014-08:00Will Smarter Balanced be used for 6th grade math p...Will Smarter Balanced be used for 6th grade math placement? Trying to figure out whether to opt my 4th grader out of the test. <br /><br />--Consequences?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-29206293227687995222015-03-03T18:10:53.081-08:002015-03-03T18:10:53.081-08:00Were Patu and Peters in my car this morning as my ...Were Patu and Peters in my car this morning as my 5th grader was weeping about possibly failing the SBAC math test? "I am afraid that I might be one of the 68% who fail instead of the 32% who pass!" <br />Please, vote to spare my girl! Save her from fearing math!<br />-sadmomAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-21637967392234114502015-03-03T17:51:39.621-08:002015-03-03T17:51:39.621-08:00As a teacher, I suggest each parent take a practic...As a teacher, I suggest each parent take a practice SBAC with another person. Many of my parents did not agree on the answers in the ELA section. For that matter, teachers did not agree either.<br /><br />http://sbac.portal.airast.org/practice-test/<br /> <br />You hit the green box and then just click on “sign in,” no need to create an account. From there you choose your grade level and link to ELA or math. <br /><br />SPS TeacherAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-11671533196361048312015-03-03T17:10:32.145-08:002015-03-03T17:10:32.145-08:00Somewhere downtown Corp Ed Reformers are a) peeing...Somewhere downtown Corp Ed Reformers are a) peeing their pants, b)downing advil and c) reaching for a drink or d) pounding out nasty emails - or sand - at this very moment. <br /><br />Doubt it will pass but good on Peters and Patu. At the least it will draw attention to the issue.<br /><br />DistrictWatcherAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-43063618681289803132015-03-03T16:30:04.523-08:002015-03-03T16:30:04.523-08:00
BREAKING NEWS!
Director Peters and Director Patu...<br />BREAKING NEWS!<br /><br />Director Peters and Director Patu have submitted a resolution to suspend administration of SBAC!<br /><br />I hope we can get a thread on this issue!! <br /><br />Here is the resolution:<br /><br />http://www.seattleschools.org/modules/groups/homepagefiles/cms/1583136/File/Departmental%20Content/school%20board/14-15%20agendas/030415agenda/20150304_AssessmentsResolution_DRAFT.pdfHoly Cow!!!noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-4309408558800685872015-03-03T16:10:09.213-08:002015-03-03T16:10:09.213-08:00WA state has agreed to use SBAC for assessments. I...WA state has agreed to use SBAC for assessments. It follows that the district needs to encourage as many students as possible to take the tests. Are growth scores currently factored into teacher evaluations in SPS? Will a zero score be factored into the school rating, but not the teacher rating? Is there incentive for teachers to support opt-outs?<br /><br />curiousAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-53261195592526243452015-03-03T15:48:44.202-08:002015-03-03T15:48:44.202-08:00GMMB was hired to create talking points regarding ...GMMB was hired to create talking points regarding Common Core and Smarter Balanced tests. Here is one example:<br /><br /><br />http://www.ascd.org/ASCD/pdf/siteASCD/policy/2014/Austin-Communicating-Standards-and-Assessments.pdf<br /><br />I'm disappointed in the district. I'm not seeing a lot of critical analysis.<br /><br />"Rigor: Students will not be able to rely as much on process-of-elimination to find an answer. The assessment includes some multiple choice with more than one answer as well as other demands for higher-level thinking."<br /><br />Translation: Let's really mess with the minds of eight year old children.<br /><br />Teachers take classes to create tests. Part of testing is NOT to make children feel overwhelmed, but to help achieve a sense of mastery.<br /><br />One should research child development and the need for mastery.<br />Sighnoreply@blogger.com