tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post5121904292456928290..comments2024-03-28T02:21:17.452-07:00Comments on Seattle Schools Community Forum: Tuesday Open ThreadMelissa Westbrookhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-89208247181109850412019-08-15T13:04:44.068-07:002019-08-15T13:04:44.068-07:0067% of Americans now support an assault weapons ba...67% of Americans now support an assault weapons ban like we had before. This was in FOX poll. My family owns guns and we support gun control and an assault weapons ban. <br /><br />HPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-33466446609400897082019-08-14T21:20:36.231-07:002019-08-14T21:20:36.231-07:00If you can't discern that I said I wanted acti...If you can't discern that I said I wanted action like in New Zealand, you're not very bright. <br /><br />Move on. We are done with this topic for now.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-78988610019905590652019-08-14T18:54:50.653-07:002019-08-14T18:54:50.653-07:00Read what Melissa wrote, MW would like to see all ...Read what Melissa wrote, MW would like to see all guns removed from citizens, like in NEW ZEALAND. Make them pay Ae?<br /><br />"Under New Zealand law, some lawful, proper, and sufficient purpose is needed to use, discharge or carry any firearm, airgun, or similar weapon. The person carrying, using, or discharging the weapon is obliged to prove the purpose was lawful, proper, and sufficient. This requirement applies even if the person can legally possess the weapon. Exactly what constitutes a lawful, proper, and sufficient purpose is not defined in legislation and must be proven on a case by case basis"<br /><br />For all purposes this allows authorities to arbitrarily and capriciously choose who can and can't posses a firearm in addition determine who can fire their weapons. <br /><br />Oh look we have a constitutional scholar commenting, if what you claim were true then guns would have been gone long ago. <br /><br />Democrat, socialist or Marxist are all about the same these days.<br /><br />Pack mentalityAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-58167978491097430682019-08-14T15:32:35.312-07:002019-08-14T15:32:35.312-07:00The Second Amendment protects a "well-regulat...The Second Amendment protects a "well-regulated militia". We have the armed forces, which we did not have when the Constitution was written. Our armed forces are a well-regulated militia. What we have now, with gun-toting rednecks wanting all of us to carry guns is a disorganized, unregulated, violent mess. Full stop. Don't use our precious Constitution as justification for your obsessive love of guns. If you can't make a rational argument, you distort the Constitution to shut everyone else up. Cowardly tactic for the seriously mistaken. Then you claim that any regulation is a slippery slope to taking all your guns and turning us into Russia. Oh wait, you probably like Russia now, and North Korea, Trump's BFFs.<br /><br />Patriotic-er than youAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-88288335780808922432019-08-14T15:21:22.055-07:002019-08-14T15:21:22.055-07:00"Laws do not prevent anything if they did the..."Laws do not prevent anything if they did then we would not need police, courts or prisons. "<br /><br />Good point! Let's have no laws, since they do nothing.<br /><br />asdf<br /><br />sorry for feeding the trolls today but the ignorance is astounding.<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-61390661417420364622019-08-14T15:16:25.017-07:002019-08-14T15:16:25.017-07:00Just facts, turn off Fox news and take a walk. You...Just facts, turn off Fox news and take a walk. You need to clear your head. <br /><br />Then pry open your mind a do some research. Countries with strickter gun laws do not have anything like America's level of gun deaths.<br /><br />AK-47s are designed to kill people, fast. I didn't say shoot people fast, I said kill people fast. They cause so much damage that the victims are carved up and most are unsaveable. That's the intent: they are weapons of war and they flood our streets.<br /><br />The gun lobby has Congress by the short hairs and it's all about making money.<br /><br />The second ammendment stipulates "well-regulated". We need gun regulation and it is constitutional.<br /><br />The Earth is warming...check the stats if you can pry yourself away from Fox news and Trump's twitter tirades.<br /><br />You are a disgrace.<br /><br />asdf<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-79172645299657393782019-08-14T15:11:44.693-07:002019-08-14T15:11:44.693-07:00Oh buy a vowel, SP. She was engaging in the most A...Oh buy a vowel, SP. She was engaging in the most American of activities, peaceful protest. She's trying to change the world for the better. She's going to have to live with the impacts of environmental degradation a lot longer than you or I. <br /><br />asdfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-89600072879228349062019-08-14T13:59:11.068-07:002019-08-14T13:59:11.068-07:00Really? I'm having a handful of people calling...Really? I'm having a handful of people calling me racist in order to what? What a dumb statement.<br /><br />I'm not against the 2nd Amendment and you will never see me say that. <br /><br />I'm not a Marxist or even a Socialist. I'm a Democrat. <br /><br />Moving on.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-21207190280806079592019-08-14T13:08:53.346-07:002019-08-14T13:08:53.346-07:00Thanks JF for flushing out the closet Marxist name...Thanks JF for flushing out the closet Marxist named Melissa Westbrook.<br /><br />I think all the fighting with her SJW friends was all a show, a false flag event.<br /><br />"Living Constitution" it's the Marxist favorite statement. That was the dead giveaway over her oppo to the 2nd.<br /><br /><br />I will be adding Melissa Westbrook to Reds . She won't be able to pretend she not a Marxist. <br /><br />Let's see how she tries to wiggle out of this.<br /><br />Bagged Taged Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-46485483339937428402019-08-14T12:37:02.912-07:002019-08-14T12:37:02.912-07:00Just Facts, move on.Just Facts, move on.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-81154732668270600392019-08-14T11:22:44.083-07:002019-08-14T11:22:44.083-07:00I'll have a Caesar salad with blue cheese dres...I'll have a Caesar salad with blue cheese dressing, tomatoes and green olives. <br /><br />Is it still a Caesar salad?<br /><br />Just FactsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-82697335727973934882019-08-14T11:11:09.249-07:002019-08-14T11:11:09.249-07:00I love the Constitution but my belief is that it i...I love the Constitution but my belief is that it is a living thing, not a static thing.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-16566204589615224822019-08-14T10:16:51.138-07:002019-08-14T10:16:51.138-07:00Sorry one more jab,
That pesky constitution alway...Sorry one more jab,<br /><br />That pesky constitution always gets in the way of the big plan!<br /><br /><br />Just FactsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-19677237041818008982019-08-14T10:12:57.727-07:002019-08-14T10:12:57.727-07:00It's my opinion if someone believes that the c...It's my opinion if someone believes that the constitution should be re-written every time liberals have an idea or grievance then they are as far out there as one of the flat earthers.<br /><br /> Yep it's mob rule, because people think that just because the majority of all voters across all states have a higher count that they get to over-ride the constitution. Funny thing is, if the vote goes the other way then they think the opposite. Remember it's the untied states of America, not America there is a big difference. <br /><br />I tell you what is confusing, why is the fact that Greta is autistic relevant? <br /><br />Let's leave this subject alone as MW want's. <br /><br />Just FactsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-50226356107416517452019-08-14T10:08:22.153-07:002019-08-14T10:08:22.153-07:00Dewolf's signs are still up. And more infuriat...Dewolf's signs are still up. And more infuriating is many of them are illegally placed. Just another example of how self-centered and narcissistic he is. <br /><br />MSRPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-54414325982889653872019-08-14T09:42:23.754-07:002019-08-14T09:42:23.754-07:00Just Facts
"...Do you even believe in the co...Just Facts<br /><br />"...Do you even believe in the constitution or are you one of those living constitution believers AKA flat earthers?.."<br /><br />Could you help us understand how someone who has an opinion about the constitution being a living document that can and should change with time and the same as a person who-with no evidence what so ever, believes the earth is flat? They seem like kind of strange (rather random) things to put together.<br /><br />TeresaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-50898923727168309932019-08-14T08:07:53.569-07:002019-08-14T08:07:53.569-07:00JF,this will be my last comment on this issue.
1)...JF,this will be my last comment on this issue.<br /><br />1) I have NEVER said punish homeowners whose guns get stolen. Ever. Of course not, that makes no sense.<br />2) Yes, I would like a gun law for homeowners who do not secure their guns from children living in the house. Send them to jail? Nope, it's a big, big fine. If you want people to snap to, you hit them in the wallet. Enough gun owners fined for children dying because the homeowner was careless and you'll see those accidental death numbers go down. That's a start.<br />3) No, I don't want to outlaw all guns. New Zealand is an example of actually DOING something. In our country, we allow people, around the country, in church, at the mall, at entertainment events, schools, workplaces - everywhere to get mowed down and nothing changes. See the difference?<br />4) I'm not anti-police - I want police officers to have better training on deescalation so we don't have so many of these officers killing people when it didn't need to happen. I know (and have said over and over) how hard the job of policing is. But there are too many shoot now, ask question later shootings especially of POC. <br />5) The popular vote = mob rule? Now, I'm scared if you think that.<br /><br />Your comment about SJW prompts me to remember a thread I wanted to write. But if you think I've written this blog for more than a decade and worried about which group was happy, you'd be wrong. <br /><br />For the record, I'm not for Biden. Haven't been for him from the start. <br /><br />And lastly, we should all give up meat/poultry/fish a couple of days a week. Better for the planet, better for our health.<br /><br />Go Greta!Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-33377671798266288652019-08-14T06:06:02.660-07:002019-08-14T06:06:02.660-07:00Respect.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/13/clima...Respect.<br /><br />https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/13/climate/greta-thunberg-sailing.html?action=click&module=News&pgtype=Homepage<br /><br />FNHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-23658061859055159682019-08-14T00:49:15.958-07:002019-08-14T00:49:15.958-07:00Oh BS you mentioned New Zealand. You would be more...Oh BS you mentioned New Zealand. You would be more than pleased if all guns were outlawed. <br /><br />Why do anti-gunners never want to talk about all the threats to children? So let's get this straight, you are proposing that a parent who owns a gun whose child is accidentally killed by that gun should be further punished? You also have advocated for gun owners to be punished when there guns are stolen and used in a crime. <br /><br />You do know that is unconstitutional, right. Do you even believe in the constitution or are you one of those living constitution believers AKA flat earthers? <br /><br />Over the past year you have made some very anti-police comments because you said that you believe POC are being unjustly killed by police, right ? So, don't you think citizens might need guns to protect themselves from the police? Maybe from mob rule, like from the people that believe in using the popular vote. <br /><br />I know you have fallen out of favor with the Justice Warriors and SEA over Amplify and it appears you are trying to wedge yourself back into the "in" crowed by mimicking Joe Biden, but I don't think it will work for you.<br /><br />I expect you any day now to give up beef due to cow farts. <br /><br />Just Facts Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-68754427835454103852019-08-13T21:47:33.997-07:002019-08-13T21:47:33.997-07:00Oh Just Facts, why have laws at all then? Strawman...Oh Just Facts, why have laws at all then? Strawman there.<br /><br />I don't want to "seize" anyone's weapons. I want to hold them responsible for them just as I would a car. What the harm in that? Oh I know - it will financially cost gun owners. Secure your weapons and no fear of that.<br /><br />I don't want to hear about drugs or anything else. We are talking about guns. One thing that cannot be denied if you are an adult of any amount of age - we NEVER had to fear guns when we were in school. We NEVER practiced "active shooter" drills. <br /><br />Go look up Greta; she takes a train everywhere. She's on the spectrum for autism. She's a wonderful role model because she fits no mold for "child activist." You might not fling accusations about a child without Googling her first.<br /><br />Onward.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-65014697757000247772019-08-13T20:07:56.497-07:002019-08-13T20:07:56.497-07:00Laws do not prevent anything if they did then we w...Laws do not prevent anything if they did then we would not need police, courts or prisons. <br /><br />In WA state the authorities are not allowed to register firearms to individuals, but they do. When enough people believe as you do then the illegal registry will be used to seize legally owned weapons. <br /><br />No one wants children or adults to be injured or killed, but prescription drugs harm more children then guns do. How about a law that holds people accountable for their alcohol, drugs, weed and guns? All four need to be locked up and if not then the purchaser should be prosecuted. How about that? <br /> <br />Back to climate - I think your side might be a bit more believable if they walked their talk. For example, Beto released a video of him changing a tire, but the problem is the tire was attached to biggest gas guzzler Toyota makes. I can go through each Demochange candidate and provide a similar hypocritical example. I'm sure Greta's wealthy parents flew to Davos on a flight that produced more Co2 than every small village in the Congo.<br /><br />Just Facts Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-38988596127541624212019-08-13T16:03:54.457-07:002019-08-13T16:03:54.457-07:00I would love to see the data on those SPS funding ...I would love to see the data on those SPS funding claims. That would be quite a story.<br /><br />Just Fact, do you think people want gun laws changed because of mass shootings? It's going to take more than a gun law in this country (unlike New Zealand). But it would surely help.<br /><br />No, I want gun laws to protect again the number of suicides by gun. I want to protect against toddlers shooting themselves or others. I would love to see suicides and accidental deaths go down by half. <br /><br />FYI, Rep Phil Fortunato (R-Auburn) said this in an email in 2018:<br /><br />"In the case with families with children, every gun owner I know has their guns secured." <br /><br />I'm thinking he doesn't know many families with children with guns because the volume of kids killed every week is pretty steady.<br /><br />He goes on:<br />"Having safe storage laws are just ways to punish gun owners in the event of an accident because no one will know if the gun is locked up or not until something happens."<br /><br />To which I say, "Huh?" The owners of the gun will know if it was locked. They'll know if they have a gun safe.<br /><br />Then the whopper (as he says "professional single women" who don't have kids need guns):<br /><br />"In order to have a real study why don't we stage a break in and see which woman can defend themselves. The one with a gun available or the one who has to unlock her safe and load her gun before use."<br /><br />Yes, there's that WA Legislature display of sensible thinking. <br /><br />I want gun owners to be held responsible for what happens with their guns in their homes. Not so much to ask.<br /><br />SP and Just Facts, meet Greta Thunberg. She's a 16-year activist who has testified at Davos and before many legislative bodies. You are never too young to care about this planet. Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-49461089135944789462019-08-13T15:25:14.625-07:002019-08-13T15:25:14.625-07:00She didn't know that painting other people'...She didn't know that painting other people's walls without their consent is wrong--both legally and in plain courtesy?<br /><br />I don't see young people who haven't passed eighth grade Earth Science as leaders in the climate debate, but I applaud their growing interest in science and studyding the problem--scientifically, politically, demographically, and economically--but until then, they're repeating what they've heard the grown ups say.<br /><br />I've been in the high school humanities classroom for over 20 years. They can't weigh complex, systemic reasoning with competing imperatives until at least the eleventh grade (save for about the top ten percentiles who develop early).<br /><br />SPUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09937189205047097044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-69974287863297671422019-08-13T14:45:36.906-07:002019-08-13T14:45:36.906-07:00Maybe that $150 mil thing is linked to the ref to ...Maybe that $150 mil thing is linked to the ref to $167 mil in one of the SEA contract updates on the FB page: SEA Bargaining Update #8 SEA...<br /><br />• Last year the district fund balance (surplus revenue above actual expenditures) was three times the budgeted level, and the district’s budget surplus is now at a four-year high. District administrators have built up their reserve accounts with money that SEA believes should be spent supporting our students.<br /><br />• The SPS budget says that spending on the classroom is the budget priority, yet the district actually spent $167.8 million less in the classroom than what was budgeted during the last four school years.<br /><br />in-the-darkAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-57002671118035252622019-08-13T14:34:20.380-07:002019-08-13T14:34:20.380-07:00I've heard the negotiations are not going well...I've heard the negotiations are not going well. SEA is claiming that SPS is hiding over $150 million and they want some. SPS is in a pickle because they were claiming they were broke and now it's clear that they were lying to the public and teachers. <br /><br />Why didn't the board sniff this out?<br /><br />Bad NewsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com