tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post6021806902343166205..comments2024-03-28T02:21:17.452-07:00Comments on Seattle Schools Community Forum: Alton Sterling and Philandro CastileMelissa Westbrookhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-6554172147051872952016-07-09T13:28:36.535-07:002016-07-09T13:28:36.535-07:00NRA, I said go away. I'm not taking your comme...NRA, I said go away. I'm not taking your comments as "reporting."Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-71250603320942364022016-07-09T13:21:02.602-07:002016-07-09T13:21:02.602-07:00"resembled a robbery suspect" - that sou..."resembled a robbery suspect" - that sounds familiar. Getting their stories straight now I guess. How naive are you, NRA? Why why "NRA" anyway? What's that got to do with anything?<br /><br />From The Guardian, Dec.2015:<br />https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/31/the-counted-police-killings-2015-young-black-men<br /><br />Non-white Americans make up less than 38% of US population yet almost half of all people killed by police are minorities and <b> minorities make up more <i>unarmed</i> people killed by police</b><br /><br />These are facts as opposed to your speculation above. But your stubborness in the face of facts and your dogged determination to acquit law enforcement of all blame and racism will keep your belief in white superiority alive and well. That is the one thing I have concluded for sure. <br /><br /><br />nnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-53861176984696112102016-07-09T12:27:15.328-07:002016-07-09T12:27:15.328-07:00There's much speculation going on here, Here&#...There's much speculation going on here, Here's an update,<br /><br />The attorney for the officer, Geronimo Yanez, now tells Kare 11 that Yanez was reacting to “the presence of that gun and the display of that gun” – not race – when he shot Philando Castile. The lawyer said Yanez is Latino. On the video, Reynolds said Castile had a concealed carry permit, which has not been confirmed.<br /><br />1.The officer was a Latino, not white.<br />2.Philando did have a gun.<br />3.Philando could have been licensed, but it not clear at this time.<br />4.The traffic stop possibly was not for a broken stop light.<br />5.The officer thought Philando resembled at robbery suspect and thats why the car was stopped.<br /><br />I'm reverting back to my original claim of guns being the common denominator in these two case. If you're going to carry a gun you need to fully understand the ramifications. <br /><br /><br />NRA Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-52565928157649325902016-07-09T11:26:52.582-07:002016-07-09T11:26:52.582-07:00Dear Dr. Death (that's what Tom H calls himsel...Dear Dr. Death (that's what Tom H calls himself and that should tell you all you need to know),<br />blah, blah, blah - and now, back to the adult discussion.<br /><br />Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-28615771818265191532016-07-09T06:52:40.571-07:002016-07-09T06:52:40.571-07:00The problem is how the community, especially the u...The problem is how the community, especially the urban African-American community, views the police and their work and how the police view their work and the urban African-American community.<br /><br />The proper relationship is for the police to view their work as protecting people's rights and to see all members of the community as citizens who deserve to have their rights protected, and for the community to perceive the police as protectors of our rights and to perceive their work with that goal.<br /><br />Unfortunately too many members of the community view the police as an occupying military force and too many police officers play into that perception by viewing their work as focused on discovering violations and catching violators.<br /><br />These perceptions create unnecessary conflict. I encourage people to look into efforts to foster a better relationship between the community and the police, such as Campaign Zero.Charlie Mashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17173903762962067277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-286169385601020802016-07-09T01:06:14.742-07:002016-07-09T01:06:14.742-07:00LOL, that is the best thing I can say about this s...LOL, that is the best thing I can say about this so called blogspot and the jokesters running it.<br /><br />First off, Minnesota is NOT an open carry state. It is concealed carry only and you must have a license to do that. In order to obtain a license, you need to complete a course in safety and general gun knowledge, how to deal with situations that might arise that would require you to draw your weapon, Master of the Double Tap, Triple Tap if you are dispatching a Sexual Abuse Offender (guess where the third shot goes lol), along with a short quiz and then a mandatory shooting test at a practice range. I know, I am not only licensed to conceal and carry in Minnesota, but I am also a trainer of these types of classes, Gunsmith, Gun Dealer and I train some police and government agencies on gun techniques and surviving an ambush. I am also a Vet of Desert Shield/Storm, Bosnia and 2 tours in Iraq and 1 tour in Afghanistan. I was part of the Red Bull Division of the Minnesota National Guard and a former Navy Intel Specialist.<br /><br />Oh, and for the uneducated idiot above that said the cop had an M4 that could fire 700 rounds per minute. NO HE DIDN'T. The problem I have with you common gun haters is that not only are your arguments foolish, but you are too lazy to even bother to take the time to educate yourself on the weapons that you hate so much. When you google things without any knowledge about them, you will get WRONG ANSWERS. I believe the Douche Canoe of the day award goes by the name madpark or some other silly handle. The M4 you referred to and gave the all reliable Wiki link to is a MILITARY ONLY M4. IT IS NOT ALLOWED FOR GENERAL POLICE USE. Some specialist police units may be allowed to use one or two of them, but that is ONLY if they receive massive amounts of training from an expert like myself. So, what did he have? It is a Model 90289 Bushmaster M4 TYPE Patrolmans Carbine. I know, you whining Liberals are crying, "What's the difference?" Well, it's actually kind of big. The Military M4 is an official Assault Rifle that has a selector switch to shoot Semi-Automatic (one round fired for each pull of the trigger) and it can also shoot Fully Automatic (pull the trigger once and hold it and it unloads all the rounds (bullets) at once in a matter of seconds). The M4 Patrolmans Carbine is a Civilian weapon and it CAN ONLY SHOOT IN SEMI-AUTOMATIC MODE. This means it CANNOT shoot your 700 rounds per minute. Knowledge is power, people. Research is your friend. God can't save you, but an M240 can.<br /><br />Now, to the poor Minnesota police shooting victim that was a Crips gang member, at least at one time, who was a repeat criminal offender, who appears to NOT have had a legal conceal and carry permit and my favorite, ROBBED A CONVENIENCE STORE A FEW DAYS AGO. Yes, you heard it right. This squeaky clean school cafeteria worker isn't the model citizen his weird girlfriend said he was. HE DID have a gun on him in his right hand pocket. No one really knows what was said before everything happened, but we do know the broken taillight? That was a ruse to pull him over and check him out as the officer that stopped him saw that he resembled, very closely, one of two men that had robbed a local gas station with a gun a few days before that. <br /><br />So now you see that things are not quite what that weirdly calm girlfriend who was filming everything as she is sitting next to her dead boyfriend, covered in blood, who didn't lift a finger to help him NOR did she bother to check on her 4 year old child in the backseat.<br /><br />Funny how when the knee jerk hysteria of the racist terror group called Black Lives Matter quiets down, facts start to emerge. <br /><br />Keep tuned in folks, this is only going to get better. And Melissa honey, nobody likes a stupid white girl too lazy to do a little research before she starts talking out of her vagina. <br /><br />Can you feel me now? Make America Great Again. Don't you hate it when a lowly Trump supporter owns you on your own blogspot? Life is good.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03087361872441971622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-54805566679320901922016-07-08T20:42:52.923-07:002016-07-08T20:42:52.923-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-42560182339128713052016-07-08T18:57:39.005-07:002016-07-08T18:57:39.005-07:00You are feeding the usual troll here.
Bilbo B
You are feeding the usual troll here.<br />Bilbo B<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-67491193118038860622016-07-08T17:49:30.994-07:002016-07-08T17:49:30.994-07:00NRA, go away.
I'm sure the FBI is laughing ...NRA, go away. <br /><br />I'm sure the FBI is laughing now and when they stop, they have real work to do.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-83106255710950484332016-07-08T16:21:43.519-07:002016-07-08T16:21:43.519-07:00No you're wrong! I also see this pattern.
ht...No you're wrong! I also see this pattern. <br /><br />http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cops-tennessee-shooter-targeted-white-victims-similar-to-dallas-ambush/<br /><br /><br />You seem very angry, I've reported this site to the FBI. <br /><br />NRAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-29781183186233265292016-07-08T14:59:29.138-07:002016-07-08T14:59:29.138-07:00That's simply your opinion, It looks like you ...That's simply your opinion, It looks like you think the unemployment rate justifies violence. I think you also might want to look at what is happening in Chicago with black on black crime...is that caused by racists white people? <br /><br />You have no evidence that racism played a role in the shooting deaths of the two black men. It could turn out to be true, but right now there's no evidence.<br /><br />Quite the contrary in Dallas, we have the mass murders own words to support his racist motivations. He planned to kill people based on their race and he did kill people based on their race. I don't believe cops wake up and say "I think I will kill a black man today" Can you see the difference? <br /><br />NRA Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-8040325325567820992016-07-08T13:32:04.528-07:002016-07-08T13:32:04.528-07:00You, unfortunately, only see one pattern. The rest...You, unfortunately, only see one pattern. The rest of us see more than one. More black-on-white crime? Look at unemployment for your answer. You live in a racist bubble and will not allow yourself to be convinced otherwise.nnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-91760026424693391582016-07-08T13:01:30.727-07:002016-07-08T13:01:30.727-07:00Lakewood ex-chief who lost 4 officers: Dallas trag...Lakewood ex-chief who lost 4 officers: Dallas tragedy 'brings everything back'<br /><br />Remember the other black mass cop killer?...do you see the pattern? The facts are the facts no need to read anything else into it. I wait to see how you try and justify these events.<br /><br />NRAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-44933379245150761792016-07-08T12:29:01.796-07:002016-07-08T12:29:01.796-07:00Yes, there seems to be enough racism to go around....Yes, there seems to be enough racism to go around.<br /><br />"During the 2012/2013 period, blacks committed an average of 560,600 violent crimes against whites, whereas whites committed only 99,403 such crimes against blacks. This means blacks were the attackers in 84.9 percent of the violent crimes involving blacks and whites. This figure is consistent with reports from 2008, the last year DOJ released similar statistics. Perhaps not coincidentally, that was the year Mr. Obama was elected president."<br /><br />Sorry to ruin your view point.<br /><br />NRAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-32979193161287545072016-07-08T10:32:23.423-07:002016-07-08T10:32:23.423-07:00@NRA..."I have seen both videos and can under...@NRA..."I have seen both videos and can understand why both men were shot. The common denominator is they both had guns." <br /><br />That's the common denominator that you see? <br /><br />You don't see anything else?<br /><br />I see something else, and it's undeniably the LEADING factor that led to both of their deaths. THEY ARE BOTH BLACK MEN. How can you not acknowledge that their race, not the fact that they may (or may not) have had guns played in their deaths?<br /><br />I mourn deeply for the officers that died horrifically in Dallas. <br /><br />But, if whites cannot also mourn for the black men who die for reasons that whites never (or very rarely die of (and don't give me #s about more whites being killed by cops--we are the majority of the population so of course that would be the case, whatever the circumstances) then we are denying the very humanity of our African-American brothers and sisters.<br /><br />Acknowledge that racism is the reason that those two men died this week. Mourn not just for the police offices, but also for the men who died for NO reason.alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01999319161830539952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-252975899287232452016-07-08T09:24:49.247-07:002016-07-08T09:24:49.247-07:00reprinting for Anonymous (please read our Comment ...reprinting for Anonymous (please read our Comment policy and give yourself any name):<br /><br />Perhaps you should educate yourself. In my state and many states that are open carry states, whom also issue licenses to carry that allow us to conceal, there is NO law requiring a licensed individual to resort to concealment. Where law specifically defines a firearm as legal to have in a vehicle without a carry permit, no law makes that right null and void at the issuance of a permit.<br />Further more, some states require you to inform the officers, making it punishable by law, if you don't inform them. Turning a situation where a firearm wouldn't otherwise matter, into a deadly confrontation.<br /><br />Perhaps you should educate yourself. All around Pennsylvania, police interact with ltcf holders, without being informed of carrying and without officers being shot while those carriers retrieve their information as requested by police.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-61076795944324356052016-07-08T08:26:04.067-07:002016-07-08T08:26:04.067-07:00Okay, Patrick, I checked and you're right. Bu...Okay, Patrick, I checked and you're right. But is it the fault of the police he hadn't eaten in days (and that I truly doubt - teenage boys are not usually people who starve themselves.) Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-19625934534499271922016-07-07T22:48:41.707-07:002016-07-07T22:48:41.707-07:00Melissa and Outsider, the Shelby police didn't...Melissa and Outsider, the Shelby police didn't take the Charleston suspect TO Burger King. They brought him food FROM Burger King. They had the suspect in a conference room awaiting the arrival of the FBI for questioning. They didn't have meal facilities, and the suspect hadn't eaten in a couple of days. They aren't allowed to starve prisoners. Don't want to blow the conviction because of inhumane treatment, or be unable to get his admission entered as evidence because it was coerced by starving.<br />Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03535393644973542540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-56907833926227821452016-07-07T21:49:33.398-07:002016-07-07T21:49:33.398-07:00Sorry I see eleven cops shot in Dallas by snipers....Sorry I see eleven cops shot in Dallas by snipers. Well, is anyone surprised? What hell has racism brought down upon us all...but it was inevitable. nnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-61423410552886319552016-07-07T21:32:33.924-07:002016-07-07T21:32:33.924-07:00And you know what? Two white officers for two blac...And you know what? Two white officers for two black officers. That's what we're looking at if such poorly trained police continue to kill blacks. Your defense of the police won't change that. Something has to change at the training level or no matter how many excuses you make for the police, they are going to start paying the consequences for their actions. <br /><br />I'm all for removing guns from police and turning them back into community officers on bikes. Detectives or special squads who've been well-trained in using guns should have them. This culture of gun-loving has got to stop.Nnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-31107384882310191132016-07-07T21:26:31.215-07:002016-07-07T21:26:31.215-07:00@NRA - a series of ridiculous and ignorant comment...@NRA - a series of ridiculous and ignorant comments on your part. Before evening listening to him, he's got five bullets in him? What is the matter with you? Are you so afraid of Black people and defensive of white police that your are willing to speculate and provide defense for what was obviously devastatingly poor police work? A four-year old in the backseat? Police this nervous should not be in the streets working details that engage with minorities. Sorry. Nothing about the MN case should have ended like. It's just beyond the realm of comprehension that in this case you don't see the problem.<br /><br />BTW, more Black men do carry guns than white - I heard on the news. But so effing what? If they carry legally, they're doing it the way they are supposed to. And you blame them for that? I'm so disgusted with every post you wrote. Will we ever get past such racism? Nnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-28683645206136519602016-07-07T20:11:38.823-07:002016-07-07T20:11:38.823-07:00TWO OFFICERS DOWN!! SHOOTING AT DALLAS BLACK LIVES...TWO OFFICERS DOWN!! SHOOTING AT DALLAS BLACK LIVES MATTER PROTEST!! — VIDEOS OF SHOOTING<br /><br />NRAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-83739997010406903822016-07-07T20:01:53.415-07:002016-07-07T20:01:53.415-07:00It's a minor point, regarding the Charleston s...It's a minor point, regarding the Charleston shooter, but does illustrate how little understood police work is despite ten million cop shows on TV. Once police have their suspect, they go into interrogation mode. At the beginning, they don't know if the suspect will cooperate, or if he had accomplices still on the loose. They want information from the suspect. Especially with a mentally ill or dimwit suspect, being friendly might be the best form of interrogation (even though they don't really like the guy -- it's an act.) If a Whopper will get them information, it's a bargain. Taking the shooter to Burger King does not indicate race favoritism.<br /><br />I hesitate to mention it given the gravity of today's events, but Melissa, it's not really productive to promote the idea of pervasive dumb-nuts racism among police. It's more like they come to view black men as their enemy on the battle field, and start to commit what are best understood as war crimes.Outsidernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-69876947498116699302016-07-07T19:52:50.817-07:002016-07-07T19:52:50.817-07:00Yeah, NRA, the research is clear: we have been con...Yeah, NRA, the research is clear: we have been conditioned to fear black people more than other races. Your constant denial that race pertains is weak and methinks thou dost protest too much.<br />Of course race was involved.seattle citizenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16724175257161649500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-75965286497895373012016-07-07T19:28:13.575-07:002016-07-07T19:28:13.575-07:00NRA, it has been proven by several scientific stud...NRA, it has been proven by several scientific studies that all people fear black men more than any other group. Everyone has these prejudices. A black man is more likely to be shot by a police officer than any other group.<br /><br />I have black friends who are professionals: teachers, counselors, doctors, lawyers, preachers; who fear police officers and have to advise their black sons on what to do if stopped by the police. My one friend is so anxious she can barely drive now because she fears being stopped by a police officer and being shot.<br /><br />The fear is real, whether they carry a gun or not.<br /><br />HPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com