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You're kidding, right?MD, <br /><br />You're kidding, right?Charlie Mashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17173903762962067277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-29964313605124031222012-02-10T23:17:59.680-08:002012-02-10T23:17:59.680-08:00MDMDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-63724919486922987742012-02-10T23:17:14.217-08:002012-02-10T23:17:14.217-08:00How to get good teachers? Easy, make it harder to ...How to get good teachers? Easy, make it harder to be a teacher by raising the college requirements to be a teacher. Too easy to qualify for the College of Education.<br /><br />Easier to pay more $ too. Ditch the NEA which spends as much $ on politics as actual education. They don't hold themselves or their members accountable for poor performance. That puts more money in the teachers pockets and into the classroom<br /><br />Easy to evaluate a teacher too. Create a tool that will measure each student as to what they learned in the class. If 95% of the students haven't grasped the information at a c level, the teacher is held accountable by being put on probation. Happens again and teacher is fired. A teacher that can't teach isn't doing their job. NO excuses. However, teacher must also get his classroom back. Teachers can discipline students, no lawsuits, no whinning parents. They can get kids that don't do the work out of their classrooms. Can't teach someone that doesn't want to learn<br /><br />Hold teachers, parents and students accountable. That's it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-71007155619461110192010-09-16T21:57:47.052-07:002010-09-16T21:57:47.052-07:00Thanks for what you do. Please keep going (to work...Thanks for what you do. Please keep going (to work). All of you, please!wsnorthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03795943009142572757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-82792488928493900252010-09-16T21:14:31.654-07:002010-09-16T21:14:31.654-07:00I often think that, too. But then I go to work.I often think that, too. But then I go to work.Teachermomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04595356843606376723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-86518680207011894372010-09-16T21:05:28.181-07:002010-09-16T21:05:28.181-07:00I just don't understand the recent round(s?) o...I just don't understand the recent round(s?) of teacher bashing. There are some SPS teachers who could improve, as at most places. What I've most often thought is why would such great teachers want to work for such a screwed up organization?!wsnorthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03795943009142572757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-76975564257078173202010-09-16T14:44:13.881-07:002010-09-16T14:44:13.881-07:00These reform ed boosters need to get a clue. WA D...These reform ed boosters need to get a clue. WA DC voters <a href="http://mathunderground.blogspot.com/2010/09/reform-education-mayor-loses-in-wa-dc.html" rel="nofollow">figured out this fraud</a>, which expert reform education planners perpetrated. MJG's incoherence is no longer defensible.dan dempseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15536720661510933983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-35793339429110163132010-09-16T14:39:09.399-07:002010-09-16T14:39:09.399-07:00You said from UW....
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