tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post6246631932126904027..comments2024-03-28T23:38:22.511-07:00Comments on Seattle Schools Community Forum: Tuesday Open ThreadMelissa Westbrookhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-6529160063941388252016-11-17T11:02:56.014-08:002016-11-17T11:02:56.014-08:00Having just seen this TV news report from NYC in 1...Having just seen this TV news report from NYC in 1992, I think viewing it might open a lot of eyes-- especially by those crying for Law and Order, and civil obedience.<br /><br />http://youtube.com/watch?v=faeW6Z3hQ2wAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08763215046556216865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-75415536653876336512016-11-17T09:28:09.280-08:002016-11-17T09:28:09.280-08:00The Ballard High Principal wrote a good letter to ...The Ballard High Principal wrote a good letter to students. My student told me he wanted to go to protest because he didn't want to sit in his classes at the end of the day. I urged him to go to class because he needs to be in class to do better in school. He attended the protest against my wishes - his teacher was supportive of students who wanted to attend and even reminded them that it was starting - so there was no attempt by the school to stop kids from protesting - if that's what the Soup for Teachers people were concerned about. Later, when I heard about my child's experience during the protest it was positive and it was a learning experience too.<br />Nw MomAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-79789034622147518072016-11-16T10:17:56.634-08:002016-11-16T10:17:56.634-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-68743016105433772882016-11-16T10:10:26.924-08:002016-11-16T10:10:26.924-08:00Thanks for the link, Lynn. It looks like Garfield ...Thanks for the link, Lynn. It looks like Garfield is remaining the default HCC pathway for high school, with Ingraham IBX as an option (based on "space available"). 9th grade IBX parents have been told starting IB in 10th grade will no longer be the default for HCC students and they will have to opt in to an IBX pathway after meeting some yet to be defined criteria. The default will be starting IB in 11th. Parents should be asking what that means for current and future 9th graders. Are they suggesting students will be on their own senior year if they choose IBX? Will they continue to offer honors pre-IB classes in 9th? Will parents have complete information before open enrollment?<br /><br />-info pleaseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-84981022528194582342016-11-16T09:56:53.518-08:002016-11-16T09:56:53.518-08:00FYI: F*** Donald Trump is a popular Hip Hop song ...FYI: F*** Donald Trump is a popular Hip Hop song by a popular artist. My kid is attending his concert soon.<br /><br />HPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-70928291451689486732016-11-16T09:37:13.211-08:002016-11-16T09:37:13.211-08:00The agenda and supporting documents for this week&...The <a href="http://www.seattleschools.org/UserFiles/Servers/Server_543/File/District/Departments/School%20Board/committees/Operations/2016-17/20161117_Ops_Agenda_Packet.pdf" rel="nofollow">agenda and supporting documents</a> for this week's meeting of the Operations Committee are available and include proposed changes to the assignment plan (beginning on page 281).<br /><br /><i>The purpose of this action is to update information in the Student Assignment Plan. The Plan for 2017-18 continues most of the assignment rules in effect during 2016-17, but some highlights and changes are:<br />Opening Cedar Park Elementary, Meany Middle, and Robert Eagle Staff Middle (attendance area) schools;<br /><br />Truncating grades at Madrona: this school becomes a K-5, instead of a K-8;<br /><br />Establishing a GeoZone for Licton Springs K-8;<br /><br />Modifying HCC pathways;<br /><br />Adding Chief Sealth as the southeast dual language immersion pathway high school;<br /><br />Removing conflicting assignment guarantees for new to the district 6-8th grade students,<br /><br />that live within K-8 attendance areas;<br /><br />Moving the date when waitlists are dissolved from August 15 to August 31; and<br /><br />Updating school and program names and locations.</i><br /><br /><br />Lynnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-82637559118760749282016-11-16T08:56:32.921-08:002016-11-16T08:56:32.921-08:00End PC, I'm truly baffled by what planet you l...End PC, I'm truly baffled by what planet you live on. Seattle students destroy property by walking around the block, but Trump supporters didn't destroy property when they vandalized church signs? I pointed out in a previous thread where women were groped by Trump supporters. Does that not count as violence in your world? By the way, I'm still waiting for you to enlighten us all where SPS students were assaulted for being Trump supporters. Care to mention a school so we can fact-check?<br /><br />I don't think that the US is a fascist state. However, in my daughter's 20th Century History class, the teacher laid out several arguments used by the fascists as they were elected on the way to becoming dictators:<br /><br />* The country was a great nation, but isn't any longer.<br />* The decline was caused by particular ethnic groups.<br />* The country doesn't have the respect of other nations.<br />* Only this particular leader has the knowledge to regain the country's greatness. <br />* The opposition is traitorous and should be jailed.<br /><br />If you stop and think for a moment, those arguments might sound a lot like the Trump campaign's this last year. So yeah, it's completely reasonable to draw parallels. I personally don't think that Trump will try a fascist-style takeover, but that doesn't mean I won't be watching. <br /><br />I'm also not saying that Clinton was a great candidate. She has baggage from a lot of time in public office. But Trump absolutely rode populist anger into the White House. He went around the Rust Belt saying that he was going to bring jobs back to this country. That was his entire argument for why people should look past all of the awful things he said and did. <br /><br />Also, just by the way, Clinton said half of Trump's supporters were racists, etc. So she didn't say you were, just because you supported Trump. Interestingly, a poll shortly after Clinton's comments went public showed that about 40% of Trump supporters thought black people were inherently not as smart as white people. So Clinton was really only about 10% off. Eric Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-41992977454819141962016-11-15T21:24:27.096-08:002016-11-15T21:24:27.096-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-28854936830671639522016-11-15T20:28:23.847-08:002016-11-15T20:28:23.847-08:00I for one will be glad when some of our blue state...I for one will be glad when some of our blue state hackers get hold of Trump's tax returns. He's the only "president" who has been elected into office while being audited. He and his family refuse to release the tax returns because he doesn't want them under scrutiny (they've stated this). Since the last president who won the electoral college but lost the popular vote went on to bankrupt the country, the American people would be well advised to demand to see these returns. <br /><br />-SPSParentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-92210988706580770932016-11-15T20:07:51.344-08:002016-11-15T20:07:51.344-08:00Here is an interesting discussion of the current s...Here is an interesting discussion of the current situation, better than the sniping that tends to erupt here:<br /><br />http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/15/13593670/donald-trump-jonathan-haidt-social-media-polarization-europe-multiculturalism<br /><br />It's between a staffer at Vox (leftish web news site) and NYU professor Jonathan Haidt who articulates an insightful and more sympathetic than usual view of the anti-diversity faction yet somehow manages not to get shot by the PC police.Outsidernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-26234953906520338382016-11-15T19:39:11.375-08:002016-11-15T19:39:11.375-08:001) Lynn, sorry, I accidentially deleted your comme...1) Lynn, sorry, I accidentially deleted your comment but I will be reposting that soon as its own thread.<br /><br />2) Some of you seem to be here to gloat. That serves no purpose in any discussion so you can go find somewhere else to be. <br /><br />Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-78230843312402959282016-11-15T17:42:04.054-08:002016-11-15T17:42:04.054-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-13790662020100214222016-11-15T17:37:37.401-08:002016-11-15T17:37:37.401-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-50484968387643998282016-11-15T17:35:58.517-08:002016-11-15T17:35:58.517-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-33291417701585478332016-11-15T17:28:42.633-08:002016-11-15T17:28:42.633-08:00"The rage of the disesteemed is personally fr..."The rage of the disesteemed is personally fruitless, but it is also absolutely inevitable; this rage, so generally discounted, so little understood even among the people whose daily bread it is, is one of the things that makes history. Rage can only with difficulty, and never entirely, be brought under the domination of the intelligence and is therefore not susceptible to any arguments whatever."<br /><br />James Baldwin, "Stranger in the Village"<br /><br />MHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-68016485703033117602016-11-15T17:20:12.182-08:002016-11-15T17:20:12.182-08:00MH...WRONG
I'm not following anyone, I voted....MH...WRONG<br /><br />I'm not following anyone, I voted. and the only violence I've see is by the left. I'm not going to bother with all the citations, find them yourself since you're so astute with goggling, cut then paste.<br /><br />As a fun exercise try approaching Trump voter and calling them a fascists, I bet they just walk away. Then approach a liberal of any favor and call them one of your derogatory stereotypes. I'm very sure you will receive a violent reaction possibly resulting in you being physically assaulted. <br /><br />I wish my grandfather were still alive, he could give you lesson in what it's like to experience true fascism which is unlike your liberal misuse of the term.<br /><br />End PC <br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-24640941233050231262016-11-15T17:10:54.174-08:002016-11-15T17:10:54.174-08:00Well, End PC, now I know where you get your "...Well, End PC, now I know where you get your "facts." The "news" source I could find saying that Trump did not call Mexicans rapists was Breitbart. <br /> <br />Trump did, in fact, call Mexicans rapists, and he even defended doing so: http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2015/07/01/trump-defends-calling-immigrants-rapists.html?via=desktop&source=copyurl<br /><br />It's one thing to have a difference of opinion, but there can be no difference of fact.<br /><br />Voting for Trump was condoning the behavior of a man who said many racist and sexist things. There is also video footage of him mocking a disabled reporter. But you know this and voted for him anyway.<br /><br />I shouldn't respond to any of this, but I think there is going to be four long years of trying to keep this country fact-based.<br /><br />-hamsterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-48721164064691668292016-11-15T16:58:50.556-08:002016-11-15T16:58:50.556-08:00Fascism, in the sense of a political movement, is ...Fascism, in the sense of a political movement, is more a tendency to exhibit certain behaviors or ideas rather than a strictly defined political ideology. For example, fascists tend to stir up and capitalize on intensely nationalist feelings; seek a rebirth of the nation by mythologizing a traditional set of national values; advocate violence as a political tool; celebrate action at the expense of thought, intellect, or ethical considerations; place faith in a charismatic or popular leader; demonstrate a reactionary antimodernism in their hatred and rejection of individualism, liberalism, feminism, democracy, labor organizations, and diversity of race, religion and ethnicity; exhibit contempt for imagined weaknesses or vulnerabilities in people; generate and exploit fear about people and ideologies that supposedly weaken the nation; and view war as a positive and ennobling experience.<br /><br />So, in that sense, Trump and his followers are fascists.<br /><br />MHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-90059898570199589362016-11-15T16:45:34.214-08:002016-11-15T16:45:34.214-08:00"Trump rode populist anger into the White Hou..."Trump rode populist anger into the White House" <br /><br />Really ? Nothing to do with the left running a severely flawed candidate who engaged in questionable practices by enriching herself while in office? <br /><br />It's interesting, I'm wasn't angry, I'm collage educated...oh so as Clinton said, I must be a "Racist, Sexist, Homophobic, Xenophobic, or Islamophobic" right? <br /><br />It's called a turn off, you see in my opinion throwing out wholesale stereotypes usually doesn't work on most people. You know like calling all Mexicans rapist which by the way Trump never did. <br /><br />Just to be honest, I have a little case of Islamophobia(?) you bet I do, but I don't go around damaging others property or go out of my way to confront people over it. I take a more analytical approach by challenging by beliefs.<br /><br />And I did just that and did not vote for Clinton.<br /><br />End PC Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-12677831624963066312016-11-15T16:21:28.024-08:002016-11-15T16:21:28.024-08:00The left's idea that fascism exist in our gove...The left's idea that fascism exist in our government is laughable, but also gives credence for the need to bring required civics curriculum to all schools.<br />For those who have experienced real fascism, I apologize for my misguided fellow Americans mistaken choice of words. <br /><br />All the screaming and tantrums by the left is tantamount to the reaction a child has to the word NO and will slowly melt away like last snow of winter. <br /><br />I'm not aware of the use of any tactics of the right to rig the election, they could be doing it, who knows, but we have overwhelming evidence the left did engage in many unseemly tactics and we should all feel fortunate that most of the tactics were day-lighten by wikileaks and the FBI.<br /><br />If the left wants their political party to survive in any measurable way they would be smart to stop the antics and start moving back to the middle.<br /><br />End PC <br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-73174596089543239152016-11-15T16:10:06.569-08:002016-11-15T16:10:06.569-08:00End PC, how did we get from marching around the bl...End PC, how did we get from marching around the block to destruction of property? The student protests were peaceful. And, uh, you might have noticed that these were middle and high school students protesting, who aren't eligible to vote. Even if they had wanted to, they couldn't. Ending PC apparently also means ending dealing in facts. <br /><br />I agree that there's not going to be an election do-over, but how do you know the Democrats aren't going to take back Congress in 2018? Trump rode populist anger into the White House, but his statements so far look like more benefits for the plutocrats. If he can't deliver jobs in quantity, a lot of people are going to turn on him. Eric Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-52064354323622324052016-11-15T15:32:57.129-08:002016-11-15T15:32:57.129-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Lynnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-68824394812876726692016-11-15T15:09:38.746-08:002016-11-15T15:09:38.746-08:00Wow. Just wow. As of tiday it's become ormal t...Wow. Just wow. As of tiday it's become ormal to use the words fascist and facism in conersation. <br /><br />Address unknown<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-37486355450450405952016-11-15T14:40:15.256-08:002016-11-15T14:40:15.256-08:00"Get ready for the biggest mobilization and b..."Get ready for the biggest mobilization and backlash that will propel us to move forward as a nation" <br /><br />How so...by more destruction of others property by people who didn't think it was important to vote? Get you facts straight, most of these protesters couldn't pass a basic civics class and many are simply out to cause chaos because of mob mentality. <br /><br />Regardless, there will be no election do over, no rolling back SCOTUS appointees and no Democratic takeover in 2018. <br /><br />The next 8 years belong to the victors and it will be glorious.<br /><br />End PC Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-26599302126727082012016-11-15T14:30:56.716-08:002016-11-15T14:30:56.716-08:00I looking forward to new jobs and prosperity for o...I looking forward to new jobs and prosperity for our inner cities. I'm willing to put America first and support legal immigration reform. <br /><br />Bracero program Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com