tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post67999376295937846..comments2024-03-28T02:21:17.452-07:00Comments on Seattle Schools Community Forum: Odds and Ends on Math AdoptionMelissa Westbrookhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-11881169126504801542014-06-14T18:53:53.499-07:002014-06-14T18:53:53.499-07:00The owner of Dreambox is Ben Slivka, and he was in...The owner of Dreambox is Ben Slivka, and he was instrumental in pushing charter schools.<br /><br />Nice to see he is profiting from Seattle Public Schools.<br /><br />Similar to other computer progams that create individual student learning opportunities, Dreambox will collect many data points on students. Privacy can not be guaranteed.Dreamaker $$noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-79379311197380843342014-06-13T13:54:43.285-07:002014-06-13T13:54:43.285-07:00That's how the (now bankrupt) ConnectEdu got y...That's how the (now bankrupt) ConnectEdu got your secondary students' info and now can sell it as an asset through bankruptcy court. The student ID. AND the student's gmail account.mirmac1https://www.blogger.com/profile/10183460709639638172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-85441801081962674472014-06-13T12:04:01.825-07:002014-06-13T12:04:01.825-07:00TS said: Oh and when I create a new account for a ...TS said: <i>Oh and when I create a new account for a student I use any name I want- it isn't connected in any way to SPS identification data. </i><br /><br />Thank you for paying attention to this and sharing.<br /><br />Parents and teachers, please be aware that when you use <i>any</i> online tools, kids names and student#s should <i>not</i>, in most cases, be associated with those accounts. When you do so, you are giving away personal student data to outside organizations. <br /><br />That goes for textbook publishers as well, like math with Pearson.dwnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-52103744130806208092014-06-13T08:46:52.092-07:002014-06-13T08:46:52.092-07:00Common Core alignment in and of itself may not be ...Common Core alignment in and of itself may not be the best predictor or assurance of student performance. This goes for ELA (English Language Arts) as well. With CCSS, we have seen an increased emphasis on "skills" while content gets sacrificed. No time for vocabulary. Very limited writing instruction. Poorly chosen reading selections.<br /><br />So, when CCSS "alignment" is held as the be all and end all, it gives me pause.<br /><br />If the math content and coverage is solid, students should do fine on the CCSS assessments. CCSS are not some magic bullet. <br /><br />parentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-31625244383210030122014-06-13T08:04:02.222-07:002014-06-13T08:04:02.222-07:00Wednesday I spoke to the Principal at our school a...Wednesday I spoke to the Principal at our school about how the principals meeting went on Tuesday. He said there was a lot of anger directed at the board for not following the MAC recommendation. It seems that many of the principals felt that the MAC had represented their input and concerns and that by rejected the curriculum the board was dismissing the Principals input and choice.<br /><br />This report-back is interesting for 2 reasons:<br /><br />1. I think it shows that some of the push for waivers and the call for SCPA to weigh in on a blanket waiver was coming not from Tolley and Heath, but from the principals themselves.<br /><br />2. The principals seem to feel that their input should be given first priority over teachers and parents. <br /><br />It may also explain some of the push for common-core alignment, if the principals are evaluated more closely on school test-score performance.<br />Ragweedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12491896585801927302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-302252805927840082014-06-12T23:28:37.294-07:002014-06-12T23:28:37.294-07:00Dan,
Is Dream Box presently being used in SPS?
...Dan,<br /><br />Is Dream Box presently being used in SPS? <br /><br /><br /><br />Johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-11546317305865228942014-06-12T22:08:43.523-07:002014-06-12T22:08:43.523-07:00DreamBox will expand to middle school grades next ...DreamBox will expand to middle school grades next school year. The cost will be $25 per student for 12 months.dan dempseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15536720661510933983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-15825439858125219892014-06-12T11:04:25.643-07:002014-06-12T11:04:25.643-07:00Now that I'm reading this, I'm wondering, ...Now that I'm reading this, I'm wondering, what is the computer component of Envision and MiF, and do either collect data on individual students?<br /><br />SMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-37797863737832366412014-06-12T07:11:46.472-07:002014-06-12T07:11:46.472-07:00Oh and when I create a new account for a student I...Oh and when I create a new account for a student I use any name I want- it isn't connected in any way to SPS identification data. <br /><br />TSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-34175032408959072612014-06-12T00:14:35.679-07:002014-06-12T00:14:35.679-07:00I love using ST Math (spatial temporal math). It ...I love using ST Math (spatial temporal math). It has allowed me to differentiate with small groups in an incredibly effective way. Kids love it, and their skills improve tremendously. It's a win-win. The curriculum and student work (one grade per child per year) is stored on the ST Math server so they can access/work on it from home, not just school. At our last training the list of SPS schools using it showed on a drop-down menu as our trainer logged in. It was a long list. <br /><br />Great TED Talk about it: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=https://www.mheonline.com/program/view/1/1/412/0076237583/#program&feature=kp<br /><br />TSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-55817384624650566442014-06-11T22:57:49.244-07:002014-06-11T22:57:49.244-07:00Kind of old but best I could find on google: http...Kind of old but best I could find on google: http://www.intmath.com/blog/yet-another-computer-based-math-system/940<br /><br />Apparently, you can buy it on Amazon.<br /><br />http://www.amazon.com/MIND-Research-Institute-ST-Math/dp/B008VYAEKS <br /><br />Mixed reviews. Who knows? I liked Dreambox which the District did not renew this year but was a hit my kids. At my school all the teachers are missing Dreambox.nnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-6998890492947602152014-06-11T22:06:50.110-07:002014-06-11T22:06:50.110-07:00What is ST? Banda's former school district us...What is ST? Banda's former school district used Envision. The contract is on the internet.Leonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-1748662244269141922014-06-11T21:52:41.488-07:002014-06-11T21:52:41.488-07:00Nope, it was legit. Nope, it was legit. Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12588239576000641336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-46935683088824199852014-06-11T21:51:02.553-07:002014-06-11T21:51:02.553-07:00I think ST math is in the range of $20 ish per stu...I think ST math is in the range of $20 ish per student and I believe schools who use it pay for it themselves. I wonder if that email was just a spammy pitch as opposed to a legitimate correspondence? Just speculating.jlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06803657660764570510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-77625185175628376072014-06-11T18:20:15.025-07:002014-06-11T18:20:15.025-07:00Dan,
Are you sure about $50,000 a school? That s...Dan,<br /><br />Are you sure about $50,000 a school? That seems a little rich.Linh-Conoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-16492508708567600732014-06-11T18:04:42.359-07:002014-06-11T18:04:42.359-07:00ST Math is used at Queen Anne Elementary - this is...ST Math is used at Queen Anne Elementary - this is year one, they started in January. <br /><br />QA ParentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-57972479700380730442014-06-11T17:34:40.748-07:002014-06-11T17:34:40.748-07:00ST Math has been used for the past two years at Jo...ST Math has been used for the past two years at John Rogers, too.<br /><br />I don't know the cost details.<br /><br />- North-end MomAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-60116145342862487832014-06-11T16:57:02.970-07:002014-06-11T16:57:02.970-07:00ST Math was in use at JAK8 for the last several y...ST Math was in use at JAK8 for the last several years. I have no idea about the cost or data sharing however as a program it seemed fairly useful.<br /><br />BenBenjamin Leishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10974191081762367425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-3030433570426002762014-06-11T16:55:26.852-07:002014-06-11T16:55:26.852-07:00ST math had good results with the high free and re...ST math had good results with the high free and reduced lunch mostly Hispanic population in Anaheim.Linh-Conoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-15774620705917707382014-06-11T16:50:38.129-07:002014-06-11T16:50:38.129-07:00Thing is Dan, when the district cries poor, it is ...Thing is Dan, when the district cries poor, it is important to know what is being funded and why. This may be a very good program but I still want to know what student/teacher data they will get from it.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12588239576000641336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-34807268409505177802014-06-11T16:50:35.127-07:002014-06-11T16:50:35.127-07:00Thing is Dan, when the district cries poor, it is ...Thing is Dan, when the district cries poor, it is important to know what is being funded and why. This may be a very good program but I still want to know what student/teacher data they will get from it.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12588239576000641336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-10911913300044703762014-06-11T16:18:40.805-07:002014-06-11T16:18:40.805-07:00ST Math was used at Banda's California distric...ST Math was used at Banda's California district. Highline with MiF has 90 minutes per day math instruction and uses ST Math. I've heard costs of $50,000 per school for ST Math but have no idea what Highline paid.dan dempseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15536720661510933983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-50619569874324344462014-06-11T15:22:46.915-07:002014-06-11T15:22:46.915-07:00I said ST is a math program (not curriculum). Addi...I said ST is a math program (not curriculum). Adding it as part of what is in e-mails discussing math adoption is valid.<br /><br />I didn't say it was part of the math adoption process.<br /><br />But thanks for letting me know that it IS being used. Because I'd like to see what student data is going to them and what those costs are.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12588239576000641336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-81873282657170965112014-06-11T15:14:02.150-07:002014-06-11T15:14:02.150-07:00Clarification-
ST math is not a stand alone math ...Clarification-<br /><br />ST math is not a stand alone math program.....schools use it for intervention work or as a supplement to an existing program. You may want to remove your comment about it in the posting as it misleads the reader into thinking it could have been a program that would have been considered during the adoption. <br /><br />TeacherAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-61537296946279160352014-06-11T11:08:49.641-07:002014-06-11T11:08:49.641-07:00So she got them in 2 hours ahead of her deadline (...So she got them in 2 hours ahead of her deadline (4pm)--and was told that wasn't good enough? In the Superintendent's shoes I would have been deeply concerned if there was such extensive documentation of errors and would have asked to stop the presses to get it right. Giving someone a deadline (which she seemed to meet) and then saying they can't do anything about it is flawed.HappyMomnoreply@blogger.com