tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post7458323891060842493..comments2024-03-28T02:21:17.452-07:00Comments on Seattle Schools Community Forum: Charters Schools: Starting a Downward TrendMelissa Westbrookhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-73485537509639679382017-03-05T13:23:33.719-08:002017-03-05T13:23:33.719-08:00Point of Correction: Summit Sierra Charter School ...Point of Correction: Summit Sierra Charter School does not have a parent volunteer hour requirement.Cheezmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02626193124555473741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-16112903873389524392017-03-01T09:07:12.560-08:002017-03-01T09:07:12.560-08:00Melissa wrote "Also, I've visited Basis, ...Melissa wrote "Also, I've visited Basis, good school."<br /><br />Basis runs a private school ($26,000/year)in San Jose. It teaches math past AP Calculus BC, but I don't know how much the school is like the charter schools in AZ.<br /><br />LisaGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-10892033385023487552017-02-28T15:02:31.612-08:002017-02-28T15:02:31.612-08:00Charter schools are not all that some want you to ...Charter schools are not all that some want you to believe they are. Here is from one teacher:<br /><br />"When I tried to accommodate a restless student by allowing her to fidget on the carpet, I was told I was doing her a disservice and was ordered to keep her still. When I tried to advocate for under-performing students to undergo psychological testing so that they might receive services they needed, I was ignored or admonished, and in one instance told flat-out that the school was not testing students so as to avoid being legally obligated to provide services to them. I watched coworkers struggle to decide whether to report suspected family abuse when leaders didn’t share their concerns, given that network protocol is for school administration to make such calls. (Legally, teachers and psychologists are mandated reporters and cannot be punished for reporting suspected abuse. But with no union representation, it is difficult for an employee to feel confident that this will hold true in practice.) I was sick of overlooking the profit-driven motivations of the network, and sick of being forced to comply with practices that I believed were damaging my students."<br /><br />https://dianeravitch.net/2017/02/28/jane-doe-why-i-quit-as-a-teacher-at-success-academy-charter-schools/<br /><br /><br />NO 1240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-84770983605942075572017-02-28T14:52:34.228-08:002017-02-28T14:52:34.228-08:00Great post, Melissa. You provided the public with ...Great post, Melissa. You provided the public with a lot of good information.<br /><br />Similar to other states, Washington state charter schools are exempt from many state policies including discipline. For charter schools, harsh discipline is a reality.<br /><br />http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/education/success-academy-fire-parents-fight-disciplinary-policy-article-1.1438753<br /><br />-a reader/LisaG/Alfred seems to do a lot of research. I'm hoping -a reader/LisaG/Alfred can answer my questions:<br /><br />1. How many medically fragile students are enrolled in Washington state charter schools.<br /><br />2. How many special education students requiring 1:1 support are enrolled in Washington state charter schools?<br /><br />3. Unlike public schools, charter schools cap enrollment. Does Washington state charter schools place caps on special education students?<br /><br />I've noticed that school districts support prototypical funding model. LEV and Stand for Children support per pupil allocation- no surprise.NO 1240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-44679203308703693552017-02-28T10:37:01.822-08:002017-02-28T10:37:01.822-08:00Lisa, very funny. Lisa, very funny. Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-39501907388693354282017-02-28T10:12:32.115-08:002017-02-28T10:12:32.115-08:00Washington State Charter Schools Association has a...Washington State Charter Schools Association has a link to existing charters, including those opening Fall 2017. Green Dot is opening a middle school in southeast Seattle with grade 6. Principal is Walter Chen, former Graham Hill Principal, and Aki Kurose Vice Principal.<br /><br />http://wacharters.org/who-we-are/<br /><br />-a reader<br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-89344765452942604732017-02-28T09:38:37.734-08:002017-02-28T09:38:37.734-08:00Super excited for the opening of Impact Public Sch...Super excited for the opening of Impact Public Schools.<br /><br />I know of several education reformers who have their kids in charter schools as well as public schools and not opting out of the tests.<br /><br />Summit parents are "asked" to volunteer hours at the schools. Accommodations are made for families for which this "ask" would be a hardship.<br /><br />Traditional public schools ask student to leave ALL THE TIME. Shall we look at expulsion rates and disproportionate discipline rates?<br /><br />AlbertAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-60696798063627625222017-02-28T09:03:24.325-08:002017-02-28T09:03:24.325-08:00The kids of the Rocketship CEO, Preston Smith, go ...The kids of the Rocketship CEO, Preston Smith, go to Rocketship schools.<br /><br />LisaGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-35934243118193018982017-02-27T21:35:01.826-08:002017-02-27T21:35:01.826-08:00Heads UP, I'm aware of this group and I'll...Heads UP, I'm aware of this group and I'll be doing an update on new charters. <br /><br />Josh, I have never heard of one single ed reformer who has their child in a charter school. <br /><br />Summit, I think you can be exited if you don't follow their rules. That's the beauty of charter schools - don't follow their rules, you can be asked to leave.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-62556656028884201422017-02-27T21:08:33.619-08:002017-02-27T21:08:33.619-08:00Summit Charter School requires parents to voluntee...<br />Summit Charter School requires parents to volunteer 30 hours per year. What about parents that don't have the time to volunteer?<br /><br />"Family involvement is also a major component at the charter high school opening in a corner of Seattle’s International District populated mostly by small factories and Asian produce markets. At Summit Sierra, parents are asked to volunteer 30 hours a year at the school."<br /><br />Summitnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-36221422396871320262017-02-27T20:05:53.227-08:002017-02-27T20:05:53.227-08:00I think Lisa's and Eric's comments are two...I think Lisa's and Eric's comments are two sides of the same coin: charter schools are, in the minds of charter proponents, for other people's kids, never their own. Lots of suburban New Jerseyites were big fans of charter schools, as long as they were in Newark, but when those schools started to aggressively push out into the 'burbs, oh how those former cheers turned to howls of dismay.<br /><br />Seriously. Do any of the "name" charter proponents have kids in charter schools? I'm curious. And if they do, are they in one of the handful of absurdly well-capitalized schools? Seems like a question one might ask about just about any school reform is, would I want that at my kids' school? And if the answer is no, one might then question whether that "reform" is such a good idea.Josh Hayeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17242600011474990770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-18639053483398453192017-02-27T19:25:47.610-08:002017-02-27T19:25:47.610-08:00There is a plan to open another charter school in ...There is a plan to open another charter school in south Seattle:<br /><br /><br />"Impact Public Schools (IPS) is a new, non-profit, local network of public charter schools in Washington state. IPS, led by an experienced team of WA educators, is deeply committed to preparing a diverse student population to succeed in college and impact communities as the next generation of equity-driven, innovative leaders.<br /><br />At the end of March, we will submit an application to open a K-5 public charter school in south Seattle, and we need your help. This community meeting is an opportunity to learn about our plans, meet the IPS team, and share your input on our innovative and highly personalized model."Heads Upnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-16136817226923001202017-02-27T19:23:02.601-08:002017-02-27T19:23:02.601-08:00This thread is not about vouchers so if someone po...This thread is not about vouchers so if someone posts info on it as regards to charter schools, I'm going with - they like vouchers.<br /><br />There are some good charters in AZ but most of them are not good, Dan. I know this from people on the ground there. Also, I've visited Basis, good school.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-38178169085504535662017-02-27T16:25:49.859-08:002017-02-27T16:25:49.859-08:00Arizona Charter Schools
2009 to 2015 NAEP Science...<a href="https://jaypgreene.com/2017/02/27/how-to-turn-your-leafy-suburban-school-districts-into-defacto-cmos/" rel="nofollow"><b>Arizona Charter Schools</b></a><br /><br />2009 to 2015 NAEP Science score improvement <br />AZ leads the nation<br />and charters lead the way in AZ.<br /><br />Note that Great Hearts Academies<br />enrolls about 9,000 in AZ<br />and 5,000 in TX<br /><br /><a href="http://basisschools.org/about-basis-schools/basis-timeline.php" rel="nofollow"><b>Basis</b></a> enrolls about 8,500 in AZ<br />but Basis is for profit so will not be coming to WA.<br /><br />-- Dan Dempseydan dempseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15536720661510933983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-9892080787813825862017-02-27T16:07:09.919-08:002017-02-27T16:07:09.919-08:00Posting info on vouchers does not imply endorsemen...Posting info on vouchers does not imply endorsement. Knowing what's happening in other states, especially outside of the Seattle bubble, is just part of being informed. How many SPS families do you think would take advantage of vouchers if they could access a private school like Hamlin Robinson?<br /><br />-a reader<br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-2246113657316714192017-02-27T15:08:36.114-08:002017-02-27T15:08:36.114-08:00Years ago, some suggested that charter schools are...Years ago, some suggested that charter schools are a prerequisite to vouchers. <br /><br />Last year, vouchers were discussed at a Republican conference.NO 1240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-33365257135335897782017-02-27T14:45:17.742-08:002017-02-27T14:45:17.742-08:00A Reader, I get it, you want vouchers.
A Reader, I get it, you want vouchers.<br />Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-24472389068922857072017-02-27T13:25:11.984-08:002017-02-27T13:25:11.984-08:00Interestingly, in Florida some traditional public ...Interestingly, in Florida some traditional public schools shove their unwanted students into "alternative" charter schools so they can keep their graduation rates and other statistics looking good.<br /><br />https://www.propublica.org/article/alternative-education-using-charter-schools-hide-dropouts-and-game-system<br /><br />LisaGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-84569959440341319992017-02-27T13:06:30.528-08:002017-02-27T13:06:30.528-08:00In Ohio, home to offices of the conservative educa...In Ohio, home to offices of the conservative educational policy think tank Thomas B. Fordham Institute (linked above), EdChoice scholarships are provided for low income students from low performing schools.<br /><br /><i>WHAT IS THE VALUE OF THE SCHOLARSHIP?<br />The EdChoice scholarship amount is currently $4650 for grades K-8 and $6000 for grades 9-12. EdChoice will pay either the scholarship amount or the private school's actual tuition amount, whichever is less.</i> <br /><br />Participating schools identify as Lutheran, Catholic, Baptist, Hebrew, Montessori, Christian, Waldorf, Islamic, and Seventh Day Adventist, just to name a few. They also have participating schools for autism and dyslexia. Nonprofit Catholic schools make up a significant portion of the participating schools.<br /><br />-a readerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-83164675536525703722017-02-27T12:23:26.892-08:002017-02-27T12:23:26.892-08:00Under Devos/Trump I anticipate a huge industry of ...Under Devos/Trump I anticipate a huge industry of religious-based, for-profit schools to crop up once vouchers become a reality. This will be a new breed of schools whose core mission will be to align students to the extreme right-wing Christian ideology. (emphasis on extreme.)Po3noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-71217995303882274712017-02-27T12:17:29.500-08:002017-02-27T12:17:29.500-08:00Another perspective on school choice:
https://ede...Another perspective on school choice:<br /><br />https://edexcellence.net/articles/a-cooperative-constructive-and-non-exclusive-approach-to-a-federal-tax-credit-program <br /><br />-a readerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-89804595712456483142017-02-27T10:04:38.396-08:002017-02-27T10:04:38.396-08:00Yes, Eric, quite true. That actually deserves its...Yes, Eric, quite true. That actually deserves its own thread because it has become quite the issue for charter supporters who seem to want to ignore that this is happening.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-51179116480863268702017-02-27T06:34:59.854-08:002017-02-27T06:34:59.854-08:00In addition to the other problems mentioned in the...In addition to the other problems mentioned in the post, charter schools are also a tool to achieve resegregation in some communities. Even some of the most "liberal" parents, even in a "liberal" place like Seattle, will use an any-means-necessary campaign to shelter their above-average youngster from the perceived riff-raff.<br /><br />"Charter schools, which are open enrollment public schools managed outside the framework of the traditional school district, are generally more racially and economically segregated than traditional public schools. In particular, charter schools often enroll more black and poor students than traditional public schools in the same areas, and are more likely to be at one extreme or the other of racial and economic composition than traditional public schools." from https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/ccf_20161021segregation_version-10_211.pdfEric Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17663977355241677800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-16098477479720413112017-02-26T22:37:50.658-08:002017-02-26T22:37:50.658-08:00Questions:
Re: Washington State Charter Schools
...Questions:<br /><br />Re: Washington State Charter Schools<br /><br />1. How many medically fragile students are enrolled in Washington state charter<br /> schools?<br /><br />2. How many special education students requiring 1:1 support are enrolled in<br /> Washington state charter schools.<br /><br />Great quote:<br /><br />"... the desire to get government out of the business of running schools (although taxpayers would still fund them)"<br /><br />https://nonprofitquarterly.org/2016/04/11/charitable-plutocracy-bill-gates-washington-state-and-the-nuisance-of-democracy/NO 1240noreply@blogger.com