tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post771157542549699186..comments2024-03-28T02:21:17.452-07:00Comments on Seattle Schools Community Forum: Principals ContractMelissa Westbrookhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-60627253845197651022021-04-16T03:01:48.375-07:002021-04-16T03:01:48.375-07:00Now I am studying in college and very often I sore...Now I am studying in college and very often I sorely lack time, since I am still working and I, like everyone else, have a personal life. That's why I buy essays very often. During my studies, I tried many different services for this and found for myself the best buy college essay - <a href="https://essayhub.com/buy-college-essays" rel="nofollow">https://essayhub.com/buy-college-essays</a><br />They always have everything quickly and efficiently. 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Our school suffered throu...Kate M., you nailed it. Our school suffered through the musical chair the last three years with 4 different principals. Our school is a bit like Tunisia these days with a leadership vacuum where parent groups and teachers are vying for turf and power. Our latest, brand new, young principal is struggling to maintain control, but even the kids are picking up on the chaos and are more disorderly. Attendances to our PTA sponsored events are down. There doesn't seem to be a coherent plan to deal with the achievement gap, declining academic scores, poorly planned program changes, and funding priority in our school.<br /><br />Think we need to change the Superintendent and SPS's motto to be: First, Do No Harm!<br /><br />Suffering Serious Side EffectsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-90541081491597134382011-01-31T17:33:58.416-08:002011-01-31T17:33:58.416-08:00The culture in a school is very much tied to the p...The culture in a school is very much tied to the principal. A great principal can really shield the parents, the students and the teachers from so much of the admin BS. It's awful to be in a school when the teachers don't trust and respect the principal. This contract along with the musical chairs sounds like a death knell for healthy teacher-principal relations and thus it's potentially a real blow to all schools, teachers, students & families.Kate Martinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-44837087986678673722011-01-31T15:46:13.491-08:002011-01-31T15:46:13.491-08:00@gavroche & @kate martin - agreed. Underwhelm...@gavroche & @kate martin - agreed. Underwhelming to say the least. I was going to mention an almost robotic, corporate-speak, bureaucracy-enamoured ethic to the recent crop of new-ish principals (mostly from the past 3-5 years), but yours is a much kinder & more diplomatic description.Rufus Xnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-33012679538045651962011-01-31T15:04:27.329-08:002011-01-31T15:04:27.329-08:00Pretty sad to read about their contract.
While ...Pretty sad to read about their contract. <br /><br />While we have some good ones, I think most of our principals are seriously underwhelming in terms of management skills. We've got 100 of them making roughly $125K each. That's absurd. <br /><br />I often recommend to the teens I know that they at least consider the 2 year masters in education administration as an option to get into one of these overpaid positions.Kate Martinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-49274952197956474422011-01-31T11:58:54.614-08:002011-01-31T11:58:54.614-08:00You'll note that the role of Principals was la...You'll note that the role of Principals was largely absent from all the public and political discussions of merit pay, teacher reviews and firing "ineffective" teachers that went on this past year. <br /><br />It seemed that the Principals were being let off the hook for any responsibility for dealing with weaker teachers.<br /><br />Did that $14,000 NCTQ "report" on "Human Capital" that the Alliance secretly arranged and Gates paid for even mention Principals? Or was it just a dissection of teachers?<br /><br />I also suspect MGJ shuffled Principals around to intentionally create instability, to break as many ties as she could between Principals (especially longstanding and well-liked ones) and their school communities, so the Principals would feel no loyalty to the teachers and community they were being told to control and pressure. <br /><br />It's easier to ax someone you don't know.<br /><br />I think the "musical Principals" game MGJ played was also her way of sending Principals a message that she is in control of their destiny and can move them anywhere in the District she pleases, like chess pieces, so they'd better fall in line, or else.<br /><br />And now the Principals are being offered a carrot if they continue to comply with The Agenda.<br /><br />Corporate America in action. <br /><br />(Or is it Fascism? I get the two confused.)gavrochehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11336376340965305696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-20901885425706236252011-01-31T11:31:13.685-08:002011-01-31T11:31:13.685-08:00Why else the incentive to get the teacher performa...<i>Why else the incentive to get the teacher performance review into place by April.</i> <br /><br />The timeline also intersects with the building budget process. Principals will have less time to push back on cuts, if they are expected to focus on teacher reviews.Maureenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18444916440000921599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-57652659754233258162011-01-31T10:34:33.244-08:002011-01-31T10:34:33.244-08:00Why is it teachers and their union are made into l...Why is it teachers and their union are made into lazy, slackers racking in the dough. But if principals push for the bucks, hey that's capitalism at its finest. Who has the most direct impact on your child's education? Where should the money go?mirmac1https://www.blogger.com/profile/10183460709639638172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-42739866531478570442011-01-31T10:23:51.274-08:002011-01-31T10:23:51.274-08:00Gavroche has it I think.
Why else the incentive to...Gavroche has it I think.<br />Why else the incentive to get the teacher performance review into place by April. Using the lever of money. Gee, wonder what principals' first priority will be. <br /><br />-skeptical-Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-78463230595322267432011-01-31T00:30:33.020-08:002011-01-31T00:30:33.020-08:00I suspect that MGJ is bribing Principals to get th...I suspect that MGJ is bribing Principals to get them to enforce her agenda -- top-down central control, standardization, teacher-bullying. She is probably also "incentivizing" the Principals to hire those unqualified Teach for America college kids which she has promised SPS would hire.<br /><br />(Incentivizing or threatening....)gavrochehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11336376340965305696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-91373030296576072552011-01-30T13:22:22.173-08:002011-01-30T13:22:22.173-08:00SP, this was a meeting of the Seattle Organizers g...SP, this was a meeting of the Seattle Organizers group (that formed to be able to give input on teacher contracts). As I said, I was told the money comes out of the General Fund. Naturally, it is hard to say what won't get funded to fund this contract. I don't know why there is is a difference between the figures - maybe the larger figure includes a projection of the bonus payouts? <br /><br />Again, I know the principals work very hard but virtually no other public employees will get raises (or would even ask).Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12588239576000641336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-9375351443281365142011-01-30T12:50:42.570-08:002011-01-30T12:50:42.570-08:00$3.7 M-
Melissa,thanks- at which meeting did Stev...$3.7 M- <br />Melissa,thanks- at which meeting did Steve & Howard say this? And did they say where will all this extra money come from, at the cost of more cuts to what?<br /><br />I don't like having to use the new website as it bounces you back & forth so much, but I did go to the Action Report which has a different amount of only $1.4M for 3 yrs:<br />(...and what a goofy way to put it in the 1st sentence, "fiscal impact of 6.1%" of WHAT?)<br /><br />"The total fiscal impact is approximately 6.1% over the three years. The estimated three year impact is $1.4 million (including benefits), based on “midrange” assumptions of the number of principals who will qualify for the incentives. This includes market salary increases (1.7%) in the first year, 1% increases in the second year and third year and the estimated cost of performance increments and bonuses."<br /><br />Why $3.7 verbally vs $1.4 in the Action Report which is what the vote is based on? <br /><br />Seattle ParentSPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12726295210572942506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-52736455914545363512011-01-30T12:04:21.474-08:002011-01-30T12:04:21.474-08:00Steve and Howard said $3.7M over 3 years for the c...Steve and Howard said $3.7M over 3 years for the costs of the contract.Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12588239576000641336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-13965397362651248282011-01-30T11:14:20.668-08:002011-01-30T11:14:20.668-08:00Okay, there's no incentive for MAP coaching, f...Okay, there's no incentive for MAP coaching, forcing, "helping", here. Move along.MAPsuckshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10043019493554551794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-90952923211738976362011-01-30T10:44:04.883-08:002011-01-30T10:44:04.883-08:00Interesting to note that out of a 35 page contract...Interesting to note that out of a 35 page contract, fully 1/3 of the pages are covering wages. <br /><br />7 pages are salary schedules with the guaranteed increase each year, plus 5 additional pages of wage bumps, including as Melissa mentioned:<br /><br />1. Performance Increments (permanent bump up) up to $2,000/yr, <br />2. Student Achievement Bonus- annually up to $10,000 yr.,<br /><br />Two different Incentive Pay provisions:<br /><br />3. Low performing/low growth schools $10,000 one-time bonus,<br />4. Principal mentor/coach positions up to $2,500 annual bonus with up to $2,500 principal substitute coverage<br /><br />Then, there are 3 more pages!<br /><br />Section C. Supplementary Contracts/Special Project Pay-<br /><br />Stipends:<br />5. Performance Management Oversight Committee- 5 principals up to $1,500 ea/ annually,<br />6. Principal Performance Evaluation Task Force- $3,000 ea. for 5 principals to work on taskforce until April 1, 2011 (ie less than 2months),<br />7. Principal Compensation Task Force- 5 principals this year only, $1,500 ea. <br /><br />Other Special Project Pay:<br />8. Opening or Closing a school- up to $5,000 annually for up to 2 years,<br />9.. Leading a SIG (School Improvement Grant) school- up to $5,000 per year for the term of the grant (3 years per grant- next year this will be a total of 5 schools),<br />10. "Outside Duties"- up to $2,000 annually at the discretion of the regional director.<br /><br />So, next year for a Principal let's say at Cleveland HS, base pay at $121,600, <br />could be earning all of the additional: <br />performance bonuses $2,000, <br />achievement bonuses $10,000, <br />plus incentive pay for low performing/growth school $10,000, <br />earn a stipend for being on a task force $3,000, <br />earn bonus for opening/closing a school $5,000, <br />leading a SIG grant school $5,000<br />and an Outside Duties bonus $2,000. <br /><br />That's a whopping $37,000 in bonuses for just one principal at one school for one year, for a total of $158,600/year!<br /><br />Is there any estimate how much more this new PASS contract is going to cost us?<br /><br />Seattle Parent<br />(it looks like my name has been changed to SP by Google?)SPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12726295210572942506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-70173635826727475162011-01-30T10:41:36.966-08:002011-01-30T10:41:36.966-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.SPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12726295210572942506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-68613164021366187552011-01-30T10:38:14.195-08:002011-01-30T10:38:14.195-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.SPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12726295210572942506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-53863309089819796022011-01-29T17:14:03.043-08:002011-01-29T17:14:03.043-08:00Will the principals dummy down standards for monit...Will the principals dummy down standards for monitary benefit?<br /><br />Think we are heading in the wrong direction.The First Arnoldnoreply@blogger.com