tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post9102186508976183713..comments2024-03-29T02:41:52.718-07:00Comments on Seattle Schools Community Forum: Updates on 1240Melissa Westbrookhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17179994245880629080noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-74771676807142655892012-11-12T11:18:11.113-08:002012-11-12T11:18:11.113-08:00Okay thanks-- I was confused because the one above...Okay thanks-- I was confused because the one above signed the same way (Prince-like!!) wasn't, and still isn't, deleted. I thought somehow the content was bothering you and I could not understand why. At any rate, I had just mentioned that the last step that one can see is that "your ballot will be prepared for counting." But that is the final step you will ever see. They don't ever say "Your ballot HAS been counted. <br />--two question marks Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-53556886075954877852012-11-11T22:58:01.641-08:002012-11-11T22:58:01.641-08:00We need a name; you're not Prince. If I can&#...We need a name; you're not Prince. If I can't tell if it's signed, sorry, it's not signed. Melissa Westbrookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12588239576000641336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-83912800984306744092012-11-11T17:08:00.633-08:002012-11-11T17:08:00.633-08:00> they could use the threat of conversion to ex...> they could use the threat of conversion to extort a lot of goodies from the District<br /><br />Would the District even notice? They don't seem to respond to external stimuli.cynicnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-2815320755102541082012-11-11T16:45:51.651-08:002012-11-11T16:45:51.651-08:00why do you keep removing my posts? i was signing t...why do you keep removing my posts? i was signing them the same way i signed the posts above that were not removed?<br />-two question marksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-79854026095784018042012-11-11T12:40:54.377-08:002012-11-11T12:40:54.377-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-43809438833765198392012-11-11T11:48:47.227-08:002012-11-11T11:48:47.227-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-4153960138357137972012-11-10T20:19:33.548-08:002012-11-10T20:19:33.548-08:00Click on the "Ballot Tracker" link.
The...Click on the "Ballot Tracker" link.<br /><br />The message I got says this:<br /><br />"We have received your ballot, your signature has been verified, and you will be credited with participating in this election.<br /><br />Your returned ballot packet will soon be opened and your ballot will be prepared for counting." I.e., it hasn't been counted yet.<br /><br />Helen Schinskehschinskehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10316478950862562594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-577193854944436012012-11-10T17:30:21.640-08:002012-11-10T17:30:21.640-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-21019278546867617342012-11-10T16:43:34.643-08:002012-11-10T16:43:34.643-08:00
Track your vote here :
https://kingcounty.every...<br /><br />Track your vote here :<br /><br />https://kingcounty.everyonecounts.com/page/2073/3705<br /><br />Public School ParentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-26218037459839075382012-11-10T13:39:21.645-08:002012-11-10T13:39:21.645-08:00yes on 1240 is declaring victory.<a href="http://yeson1240.com/" rel="nofollow">yes on 1240</a> is declaring victory.Charlie Mashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17173903762962067277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-66284276688876611942012-11-10T13:37:02.244-08:002012-11-10T13:37:02.244-08:00where are you seeing if you have been counted? whe...where are you seeing if you have been counted? when i look it says my ballot has been received and signature verified and i am credited as participating in the election, but does not say if my ballot has been counted yet or not. <br />-??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-6765926014773988862012-11-10T13:28:35.526-08:002012-11-10T13:28:35.526-08:00carroadBoth my husband's and my ballots have b...carroadBoth my husband's and my ballots have been received and verified ...but our NO votes have not been counted yet. We are in King county<br /><br />WV's commentary: UCkeyy<br /><br />Solvay GirlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-79130106872414137842012-11-10T13:22:09.577-08:002012-11-10T13:22:09.577-08:00My ballot has been received, verified, but hasn...My ballot has been received, verified, but hasn't been counted according to ballot tracker. I voted no. <br /><br />still waitingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-80537879456644403202012-11-10T13:04:09.649-08:002012-11-10T13:04:09.649-08:00So Happy 1240 did win you lost Westbrook lolSo Happy 1240 did win you lost Westbrook lolYes on 1240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-46211819102673927652012-11-10T12:12:41.984-08:002012-11-10T12:12:41.984-08:00Purely a hypothetical...
If The NOVA Project deci...Purely a hypothetical...<br /><br />If The NOVA Project decided to convert to a charter school, they could get a lot of community buy-in.<br /><br />They already have the 80+% vote needed for a Creative Approach School. Getting 50+% for a charter shouldn't be any harder.<br /><br />Their Alternative School Plan would give them a HUGE headstart on a charter application. In fact, it may satisfy all of the requirements.<br /><br />They would get MORE funding as a charter school. Let's not forget that the District is seriously underfunding NOVA.<br /><br />They would get to keep Meany if they wanted it and they would be in a position to negotiate whatever they wanted to move back to Mann.<br /><br />More than that, the District has already committed a lot of money to both Meany and Mann in BEX IV and they might be held to that commitment.<br /><br />I'm looking around and I see a pretty quick path to NOVA making a quick charter conversion, I don't see any downside for the school, and I see a lot of upside.<br /><br />Just sayin'. Just a hypothetical.<br /><br />Even if NOVA didn't choose to convert, they could use the threat of conversion to extort a lot of goodies from the District, starting with a fair budget allocation and a bigtime capital investment in the Mann building.Charlie Mashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17173903762962067277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-13386016324588634572012-11-10T11:21:18.292-08:002012-11-10T11:21:18.292-08:00http://www.capitolhillseattle.com/2012/10/30/what-...http://www.capitolhillseattle.com/2012/10/30/what-charter-school-initiative-1240-means-for-capitol-hill-kids<br /><br />Public School ParentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-48796467834052426702012-11-10T10:50:35.625-08:002012-11-10T10:50:35.625-08:00I'm still interested to hear from the Pro-1240...I'm still interested to hear from the Pro-1240 machinators specifically what other states' laws were the reference points in drafting this "best law" for charters in Washington State.<br /><br />You would think, if they were honest, that they would be able to cite chapter and verse of the sources, where in 1240 the sources provided influence and guidance, and how those specific tidbits of legislative lingo corresponded to better performing charter schools.<br /><br />My take on this? I think that it's a smug public relations approach that they thought would be a good talking point. But until they can speak to the details around the drafting of the initiative I would categorize them as manipulative liars. Yes. Manipulative liars. <br /><br />I look forward to them providing me the opportunity to apologize for calling them liars. Pants-on- fire liars.<br /><br />Oompah <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-38886458988101466522012-11-09T22:37:41.562-08:002012-11-09T22:37:41.562-08:00This is what Twain warned us about when he wrote: ...This is what Twain warned us about when he wrote: A lie can travel half way around the world before the truth gets its boots on. WSDWGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-54695928865284810072012-11-09T22:06:18.221-08:002012-11-09T22:06:18.221-08:00SC, Jan is right. What is hilarious is this natio...SC, Jan is right. What is hilarious is this national charter group is funded by...Gates Foundation and the Walton Foundation. It's the circle of life in charters.<br /><br />Also, yes, I think the whole thing is written to allow major charter groups in. I would love if there were truly grassroots Washington State charter schools; I could feel okay about that in some ways. But it's pretty unlikely and think the Charter Commission will make sure of that.<br /><br />Remember, the School Boards that get authorized have to choose charters in an ENTIRELY different manner from the Charter commission. So who knows who will get approved and why? <br /><br />Ah, 1240, so many vagaries, so little time.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01485101844712536985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-18745427754387120312012-11-09T21:01:29.662-08:002012-11-09T21:01:29.662-08:00First on the list of conversion schools would be t...First on the list of conversion schools would be the ones w/ CAS applications (sps leaks has them all on there) <br /><br />Those folks are ready to roll. I bet $1 that Queen Anne Elementary is one of the first to apply. (btw, not a failing school) Their whole CAS is like a charter and they could get staff signatures no problem. Probably parents too. <br /><br />-you heard it here firstAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-66961445384696775322012-11-09T20:58:14.954-08:002012-11-09T20:58:14.954-08:00Jan writes,
"I think there is language that r...Jan writes,<br />"I think there is language that requires charter applicants to agree to abide by the rules or policies of some national charter school management association"<br /><br />What?! No way! Really? I didn't see such a thing (and I know you say you don't have the text in front of you, so you're not 100% certain, either....)<br /><br />That would just be too, too much. Because of course you're right, the national charter group would certainly be rife with Broadies, toadies, Gatesers, and LEV.<br /><br />That would be toooo much. Ach, my heart.....<br /><br />(WV says it's "thehini")seattle citizenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16724175257161649500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-27185057073389033192012-11-09T20:50:52.209-08:002012-11-09T20:50:52.209-08:00Actually -- I don't have the text in front of ...Actually -- I don't have the text in front of me, but I think there is language that requires charter applicants to agree to abide by the rules or policies of some national charter school management association -- and since those rules were probably written by green dots and kipps, they are probably written to "favor" those kinds of organizations. I think we will have to see how the "filters" for government/management/etc. go. I would not be surprised AT ALL to see regs written (or at least proposed) that favor or require hiring big for-profit charter management companies. Otherwise, how do you get the tax money into the hands of the out-of-state charter companies? The Gateses and the Bazoses and the Waltons did NOT spend all this money for the benefit of Wallingford moms in birkenstocks and fleece pullovers who actually want to design and manage their dream schools they wish their kids could go to. (No disrespect to fleece or birks -- this is how I dress when I can -- and I always wished I could live in Wallingford!) We will see, I guess.Janhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09923777229601243321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-59799068716164373882012-11-09T20:29:32.249-08:002012-11-09T20:29:32.249-08:00Following up, it would take a moderately extraordi...Following up, it would take a moderately extraordinary group of people to just form a charter on their own. I've seen it happen once, by some very dedicated folks. However, if you have a conversion situation with support of most of the staff, you could probably do it a lot easier. Eric Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-70300485969411950312012-11-09T20:27:35.908-08:002012-11-09T20:27:35.908-08:00@Oompah, Any nonprofit can form a charter and make...@Oompah, Any nonprofit can form a charter and make an application. You could form Friends of XXXX School tomorrow with a few hundred bucks in filing fees. If you have a good friend who can write grant applications well, you could probably beat out the large corporate folks. Remember, it's the first to the finish that get the schools, not the best. <br /><br />When they were writing the initiative, they were probably thinking of the KIPPs and Green Dots, but there's no restriction. Heck, the NRA could form a school if it felt like it.Eric Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28765366.post-76813619726245889162012-11-09T20:14:10.230-08:002012-11-09T20:14:10.230-08:00Anonymous at 6:30 said: "The interesting thin...Anonymous at 6:30 said: "The interesting thing about Case 3 is that APP students at Lincoln are still part of Lowell. If the school converted, you'd need a majority vote of parents or teachers from the combined population of Lowell/Lincoln. You'd then have to give the existing students the option to stay. But wait, which building would the charter use, Lowell, Lincoln, or both."<br /><br />Ouch, Anon -- now my head hurts, because in the CSIPs, APP at Lincoln filed its own -- separate from Lowell (Charlie points this out). I guess, since we are talking forced takeovers here, with capital levy money involved, I am thinking that what the drafters of this law intend is that 50+% of building occupants can "take over" buildings. That, after all, is what the YES proponents (and their banker/corporate backers) want. They want a way to get control of the real estate assets without having to pay anything for them. I don't think they care whether the SSD calls the kids in a building a "school," a "program" or a "conclave of hobbits." They just want to be able to call it "mine" and "for free." And since there will need to be state uniformity on this for the law to work, I don't think the state will care what we call it either. For the kids, after conversion, they will either call it "my school," or "my old school." Or maybe "the neighborhood school my older sister went to, but that I can't get into now, because it takes kids from everywhere by lottery, and I can't get in." Fun, fun, fun.<br /><br />Here is what I want to know, though. How is it that SSD pays tens of thousands of dollars every year to the Alliance, when the Alliance just got finished helping to support the passage of legislation that is so bad for Seattle Schools? And when will the District politely tell the Alliance that we'll keep our money, thanks, and they can go be somebody else's "friend?"Janhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09923777229601243321noreply@blogger.com