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This interesting article was published by the League of Education Voters. I can't comment because I haven't read all the links nor do I know much about teacher pay variables. I'll just post it for others to read.
It seems, from a quick read, that it's comparing apples and oranges. The argument seems to be: Teacher pay is low, gotta do something. So that something is performance based pay? Why not, as a starting point, just raise the pay of teachers? To say that "we have to do something" and then say, "we need perf-based" seems like an agenda to me. The obvious answer is merely to raise pay to equitable levels (if it's below, which it seems to be, frankly) then, if one wants to change how an educator is paid, THEN talk about various ways to allocate. Low pay doesn't necessitate performance-based pay. BTW, teachers, at least, aren't HORRIBLY paid: In addition to base salary(which is kind of low) there is TRI money from contracts, extra-time, where available...But I'd say teachers are below a fair market value, given their training, and also that non-teacher staff is too far below.
Specifically, researchers have found declining average SAT scores among the teacher labor force.
Additionally, low-income, low-performing, and minority students, particularly in urban schools, are most likely to receive instruction from the least experienced and less effective teachers. --------------------- Given the way that teachers are treated more like chattel property in the SPS than elsewhere what is the motivation to stay in the SPS and continue teaching? Take a look in the Central Puget Sound area and look which districts have unfilled jobs the longest.
Professor David Berliner's research in the 1980's showed that beginning teachers with SAT scores in the top quarter of all beginning teachers were usually gone from teaching in 5 years or less( much less than 25% continued). Those teachers with SAT scores in the lowest quarter were still teaching 5 years later at an 85% rate.
His analysis was that teaching was not a job that people wished to do if they could find employment elsewhere - a really bad sign for the profession.
USA public school education is in a sick state right now. Many private schools are no better.
The reason remains that k-12 education is hardly a priority.
I am on my third try to make it work with SPS, taking breaks to work in the private sector and parent.
I don't want more money because I attended some weak professional development thing that someone else was paid extra to put on.
I want to feel that I can learn from the people above me rather than be continually astounded/ashamed/saddened at their incompetence. I want my time and my work to be valued. I want to have time to do my job in a professional and thorough manner. I don't want the beginning of every school year to be chaos, like it's the first year this has been done.
I want my colleagues to have the level of professionalism necessary to arrive at scheduled meetings on time, be prepared, and meet deadlines. This will happen when job responsibilities are realistically assigned by the powers that be. And that will happen when education is valued and fully funded.
The speaker list is up for the Board meeting tomorrow; not as packed as I thought with just four people on the waitlist. The majority of the speakers are speaking on high school boundaries (with several wanting to talk about Ballard High). There are only three of us speaking about the Green Dot resolution asking the City to not grant the zoning departures that Green Dot has requested. It's me, long-time watchdog, Chris Jackins, and the head of the Washington State Charter Schools Association, Patrick D'Amelio. (I knew Mr. D'Amelio when he headed the Alliance for Education and Big Brothers and Big Sisters; he's a stand-up guy.)
Why You Should Care Mr. Crabill has found quite the acolyte in Director Chandra Hampson. In the course of discussions over SOFG, she says his name over and over, "A.J .says we...." Now that's not too surprising given the direction the district is heading and that it is Mr. Crabill's work with the Council of Great City Schools is how we got here. But it appears that Mr. Crabill is working very closely with Hampson and we know she wields some amount of power over the majority of the Board. Mr. Crabill is going to continue to work with the Board as SOFG is instituted in SPS. In fact, his role may become more public as it did at one SPS Board meeting in the spring where he was on the phone during the meeting and suggested the Board stop the meeting to "self-reflect." I also noticed that in a district in South Carolina, when things weren't going to plan, he blamed the Board for not following SOFG to the letter. Look for that to happen here if Board members w
Via the SPS webpage: The public is invited to attend or stream this forum for candidates for appointment to the District 2 and 4 School Board Director seats. All finalists will have the opportunity to share why they are interested in serving on the Seattle School Board and answer questions selected by the Board and Student Members. More information about the appointment process, including a timeline and candidate webpages, can be found on the appointment process web page . SPSTV Streaming: The meeting will be live streamed on SPSTV and broadcast on television on Comcast 26 (standard-def) and 319 (hi-def), Wave 26 (standard-def) and 695 (hi-def), and Century Link 8008 (standard-def) and 8508 (hi-def). The agenda reflects the above wording - the meeting will be two-and-a-half hours. The meeting will be held on Wednesday, March 27th at the Performing Arts Center at Lincoln High School, 4400 Interlake Avenue North from 6-8:30 pm. The Board's schedule reflects announcing
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Teacher pay is low, gotta do something. So that something is performance based pay?
Why not, as a starting point, just raise the pay of teachers? To say that "we have to do something" and then say, "we need perf-based" seems like an agenda to me.
The obvious answer is merely to raise pay to equitable levels (if it's below, which it seems to be, frankly) then, if one wants to change how an educator is paid, THEN talk about various ways to allocate.
Low pay doesn't necessitate performance-based pay.
BTW, teachers, at least, aren't HORRIBLY paid: In addition to base salary(which is kind of low) there is TRI money from contracts, extra-time, where available...But I'd say teachers are below a fair market value, given their training, and also that non-teacher staff is too far below.
Additionally, low-income,
low-performing, and minority students, particularly in urban schools, are most likely to receive instruction from the least experienced and less effective teachers.
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Given the way that teachers are treated more like chattel property in the SPS than elsewhere what is the motivation to stay in the SPS and continue teaching? Take a look in the Central Puget Sound area and look which districts have unfilled jobs the longest.
Professor David Berliner's research in the 1980's showed that beginning teachers with SAT scores in the top quarter of all beginning teachers were usually gone from teaching in 5 years or less( much less than 25% continued). Those teachers with SAT scores in the lowest quarter were still teaching 5 years later at an 85% rate.
His analysis was that teaching was not a job that people wished to do if they could find employment elsewhere - a really bad sign for the profession.
USA public school education is in a sick state right now. Many private schools are no better.
The reason remains that k-12 education is hardly a priority.
Nail on head.
I am on my third try to make it work with SPS, taking breaks to work in the private sector and parent.
I don't want more money because I attended some weak professional development thing that someone else was paid extra to put on.
I want to feel that I can learn from the people above me rather than be continually astounded/ashamed/saddened at their incompetence. I want my time and my work to be valued. I want to have time to do my job in a professional and thorough manner. I don't want the beginning of every school year to be chaos, like it's the first year this has been done.
I want my colleagues to have the level of professionalism necessary to arrive at scheduled meetings on time, be prepared, and meet deadlines. This will happen when job responsibilities are realistically assigned by the powers that be. And that will happen when education is valued and fully funded.