Seattle Council PTSA; What's Happening?

 Can we talk PTA? And talk SCPTSA and the attempt by SCPTSA to say they speak for all parent communities (no less represent them)? 

As some of you know, when my kids were in SPS, I was an active PTA member and board member (although I never served on any SCPTSA groups). One thing I learned (especially as a co-president) that I want you to know is that this idea that any one PTA truly represents an entire school is not true. 

And that SCPTSA grand statement that they speak for all the school PTAs is even less true. 

I think most parents can understand my former statement. Unless you have a fairly large PTA, whoever serves on the board AND whoever are members of the PTA are a small subset of any given school. And sometimes, whoever steps up to serve on a PTA Board are then well-positioned to decide the direction of that PTA.

So it is for SCPTSA. When they say "membership" or "communities" feel "this way," just know that there was no vote on a position. There might have been a small survey with an even smaller vote by PTA board members, but, in general, there are not broad votes of the general membership of SPS PTAs. PTSA is like a large tanker ship; slow-moving and slow-turning. 

In short, what you hear from SCPTSA is really a very small group of people deciding what SCPTSA will say and do. Again, if they are the ones stepping up to do the work, well, that's what happens. But no city official or district official or Board director should think they speak for any huge number of PTA members. 

In fact, the SCPTSA has been steadily losing membership over the last 6+ years. Last count I heard was there were about 800 fewer members than in, say, 2015. That's a lot of people to lose. 

What is also interesting to me is that I think the current Seattle Council PTSA board did something I thought of years ago - with very few people who want to actually serve on the SCPTSA board, you just draft the people you want and voila! You are the voice of PTSA. 

Of course, there is an oddity that has never been explained by this current SCPTSA Board. 

From their website from this year:

On Tuesday, January 18th, Seattle Council PTSA received the resignation of the executive committee, Interim President Romanita Hairston, Vice President Kiani Pineiro-Hall, Secretary Heather Hart, and Treasurer Brian Terry. O'Hara Jimenez also resigned as District 7 Co-Chair. We would like to thank our departing board members for the time, energy, and heart they put into their work with SCPTSA, and while we were not expecting the resignations, we understand the need to part ways. In the interest of transparency, we have posted the statements from the departing members here.

They never posted any statements from the departing people so it's hard to know what happened but when you have that many people in leadershipwalk, something is very wrong.

Then they say they will have elections in February but there is no notice of that anywhere. All you see now is a listing of who is on the Board.

The co-presidents are Erin Dury (former interim school board director) and Manuela Slye (former president of SCPTSA). And there are three other Board spots unfilled. Hmm.

I also see an issue around the Superintendent's Listening Tour.

Now SCPTSA says they are hosting the tour but the SPS press release says BOTH SPS and SCPTSA are hosting these sessions. Problem is, I am being told that the listening sessions are only for certain communities with no media allowed. I did let SPS Legal know that this is problematic. If the Superintendent is allowing one group to take his time over a series of evenings and that group acts as gate-keepers to who can listen in, that's wrong. The Superintendent's words should be open to all, including media. Because I'm not sure any of these listening sessions will be available for later viewing and if the Superintendent says something of substance that the entire SPS community might want to hear, it should be public. There should be media allowed to listen in and take notes.

I'm still waiting to hear back from Legal but they are no dummies.

As well, today the SCPTSA sponsored a community meeting today on Zoom that includes Director Leslie Harris and Director Vivian Song Maritz. And, once again, no media allowed. It sure does give the impression of something to hide.

Here's another issue that I see from the SCPTSA website. They have a (nearly) once a month meeting with SPS head of Budget, JoLynn Berge. Why? It's unclear but if Berge has the time for one group, I'd hope she has time for other groups.

On the same theme, it appears that Director Liza Rankin, who previously served on the SCPTSA Board, is also having once a month meetings with SCPTSA. This is a separate meeting from their regular Board meeting. Is Rankin also available once a month for other groups?

As I did the work on trying to unravel all that happened with Hampson/DeWolf and Scarlett/Al-ansi, I did notice that it seemed that Hampson and DeWolf were more than happy to turn over community work to the SCPTSA. Even though that is one of Scarlett/Al-ansi's areas of expertise.

I noticed that Hampson pushed back against Al-ansi trying to get input from OTHER community groups. 

I notice that Scarlett said at one point that she felt that with so many COVID surveys that they had "saturated" these communities and needed to be asking other people their thoughts.

So why is SCPTSA the only thruway to community engagement? Maybe it's because Hampson is a former president of the SCPTSA and many of the people on its current board are friends.

I do worry about any one group trying to control input to the Board and the district as well as claiming ownership of "community."

Comments

Question said…
According to Director Liza Rankin's SPS page...she does not have community meetings scheduled.

Director meetings are open to the public; anyone can attend. What makes current meetings different
Yes, why are the only meetings you can talk to a director put on by the SCPTSA?

And why are they not public meetings?
Anonymous said…
Yep PTSA is a self appointed representative body. There was zero coordination with them and school PTAs when I was on our school PTA board. They speak for themselves only. I’m relieved to see some pushback on why they get the district or the Boards ear: thanks for that.

FYI SCPTSA has taken over moderating the FB SPS Resources group. It’s quite a spectacle to see them shutting down teachers on what was once the “Soup for Teachers” group. Bit of a power hungry bunch.

Special Interests
Anonymous said…
Methinks there’s a connection between the monthly meetings with Berge and Chandra’s new fundraising policy, which will completely decimate the ability of Level 4 schools to provide meaningful services to the neediest kids.

Emile
Insider said…
Hampson supports "Bottom-up and Top Down" administration. Basically, she gets the SCPTSA and superintendent to push her agenda. Then, she gets Rankin and Hersey to go along.

Insider said…
Naturally, Hampson had a relationship with the superintendent while sitting on the PTSA. She and the board majority hired the superintendent through the backdoor as interim. The Seattle Times Editorial Board was correct to call out the board for hiring the superintendent without public process because the superintendent's vision for the district is unknown.

Basically, Hampson was successful in hiring a person with whom she had a personal relationship to push her agenda with the Seattle Council PTSA.

The horse and pony show between the few SCPTSA board members, superintendent, Hampson and Hersey continue with Rankin's support.
Anonymous said…
So, Hampson-Hersey-Rankin do not a majority make. How can the rest of the Board shut this down?

Emile
Anonymous said…
This is how they do things, like the protest against lifting the mask mandate which was attended by a hundred kids but was held up as the will of all 50K+ students.

This group is profoundly authoritarian and anti-democratic (small d). Nothing but cronyism in a leftwing guise. I really hope enough of them get kicked off the board in the near future that we can start moving in a better direction.
Anonymous said…
SPS central staff have long wanted to shut down anything that can be used to organize resistance to their agenda. Getting the board to neuter itself via "student outcome based governance" is one method. Getting SCPTSA to turn itself into the PR wing of SPS is another. And the hostile takeover of the old Soup for Teachers Facebook group by SCPTSA was yet another (where Liza Rankin played the key role, bullying her colleagues until they left everything in her hands and she then turned it into a place policed in a rather Orwellian way by SCPTSA leaders).

SCPTSA leaders often criticize school PTAs for doing fundraising and suggest instead those PTAs focus on advocacy. But SCPTSA flatly refuses to do any advocacy itself. In the two biggest issues in recent months - masking and now bell times - SCPTSA is openly refusing to advocate for parents and PTAs, and instead is busy trying to help SPS sell their appalling proposal.

When all avenues of dissent are closed off, the result won't be a community that quietly falls in line with what SPS/SCPTSA want. Instead it will be an uprising at the 2023 board elections, where four new board members will be elected with a mandate to clean house and conduct sweeping change. SCPTSA's power will go away at this time, and it would probably be best to wind down the organization entirely. Individual PTAs can do a better job of advocacy than a single citywide organization that has been captured by hostile interests.

Clean Sweep
Emile, could you expand on your thoughts about PTA fundraising and Level 4 services? I don't think I know enough to follow it.

Also, Hampson, Rankin and Hersey have Sarju on their side and there's your majority. And somehow they have somewhat muzzled Harris who normally would not stand quietly by. Not sure what Rivera-Smith and Song Maritz are doing. The latter is probably just trying to get her bearings.

I do hope there is an uprising to flip the majority of the Board. Hampson needs to go because of her "my way or the highway" attitude. Rankin needs to go because she is ineffective. Harris may not run but I think it's time for someone new. As for Rivera-Smith, I'm not sure what to think. She's certainly bright but has she been effective? At least she has tried to have community meetings which is a lot more than the rest of them. That Rankin would give her time monthly to SCPTSA and NOT her own district is a shame.

Again, if you know someone who wants to run or you think would be a good candidate, I would be happy to walk them thru the process, provide other people to talk to and, of course, donate to their campaign. The majority needs to change and if just Hampson was gone, things would change.
Autocrats/Bullies said…
Rankin is a bully, as well. One doesn't need to look at the manner in which she kicked good people off the Soup for Teachers administrative page. Then, the SCPTSA took over the SPS Community facebook page and shut down many conversations.

The likes of Manolita Light (nasty) aka Manolita Slye (kind) used the page to support the superintendent and shut down teacher voices.

The fact that Liza Rankin is meeting with SCPTSA advocates and not meeting with her constituents is telling.


Anonymous said…
SCPTSA co-facilitates many of the board members' meetings with the public so as to keep the board members on a tight leash, so that it can't be a free flowing discussion. When SCPTSA moderates a zoom meeting, they are able to control the questions being asked (because you have to submit them in advance) and silence dissent, or make it harder for board members to represent the public rather than just defend what SPS central staff want.

As to board members themselves, we need four new ones in 2023. Rankin and Hampson have to go. Harris has been there eight years and has generally been willing to fight for good things, but the battles ahead to fix the district mismanagement will not be easy and so we need someone who is fresh and ready for them. If Harris feels up to it and is committed to a total overhaul of SPS management, then another term makes sense.

As for Rivera-Smith, she isn't really living up to expectations. She is falling in line rather than standing up and fighting back. Her vote to hire the superintendent rather than delay the vote as teachers had asked was a pretty clear sign she isn't going to help fix this broken district. It's time for someone new.

Fix SPS
Anonymous said…
Here’s my point about Level 4 schools: these are all schools that have high numbers but low percentages of high needs BIPOC and kids of poverty. The money these kids drive in the Weighted Staffing Standard is small (especially at elementary school, where Equity dollars are less than half per student than they are at the secondary student). The amount of discretionary money driven to elementary schools by the WSS is never enough to hire people to serve these students. Level 4 schools often ask their PTAs for funds to fill these gaps, but Hampson’s fundraising policy would prevent this by saying no PTA fundraising could be used to pay for staff, even recess monitors! The whole thing seems designed to tie everyone’s hands.

Emile
Anonymous said…
I have been satisfied overall with Lisa Rivera Smith who represents me, but I think she is a little overly focused on the schools and people in the Wallingford area. But her district really extends from BF Day ES all the way to Eaglestaff MS in the north, as far west as Whittier MS and as far east as Sacajawea ES. It's actually an absurdly shaped district. She does good work keeping notes and reporting to constituents what is really going on behind closed doors, but she seems afraid to cross Hampson, Hersey, and Rankin and hasn't driven any initiatives of her own that I'm aware of. She is competent, caring, and communicative with her constituents, but she goes along too much with the majority or doesn't problematize incompetence and overreach when she clearly recognizes it.

@Melissa: Here is a question for you:

Given that we just had a census, I'm more generally wondering also when the directors will draw new board district boundaries per Policy 1105 (https://www.seattleschools.org/about/school-board/policies/1105-director-districts/). District 7 has lost population and should be drawn bigger, and Districts 2, 4, and 5 and maybe 1 have gained population and should be drawn smaller.

School board District 1 is a nasty gerrymander that dilutes the voice of low income families in North Seattle. I will note here also that Liza Rankin lives in District 1, but her household is assigned to Eckstein MS where Hampson's house is also assigned, and I think Eckstein and Roosevelt HS probably have excessive direct and indirect representation on this board likely contributing to its dysfunction. District 1 should have someone representing it with kids attending MS and HS in District 1.

District 2 looks rational on paper only if you ignore the existence of Greenlake, and it is thus a gerrymander that dilutes the voice of lower income families across the north edge of it. District 3 (Hampson) is a gerrymander that extends from just south of the Northgate area/Roosevelt all the way down to Belltown. It makes no logical sense at all. And District 5 is a gerrymander extending from Belltown to the the Central Area with a weird amoeba-like Interlaken arm extending into Rich People territory. Only 6 and 7 seem fine. The easiest thing to do that would minimize gerrymanders and have more equal population would be to adopt the city council districts as the school board districts as well. The board seems eager to offload any difficult or time-consuming decision-making from their plate, and changing Policy 1105 to automatically adopt city council districts whenever changed would do just that. But when do they need to act by, regardless of what they do?

mitt
Mitt, that is a helluva great question and it deserves its own post.

I will also be glad to remind the Board and the Superintendent of this issue. And other media as well.

Let's cover all bases.
Anonymous said…
I too have been wondering about the redistricting. Shouldn't this already be under way? If SPS tries to rig this for Liza and Chandra there should definitely be lawsuits. The way the lines are currently drawn definitely seems to be designed to take power and representation away from the immigrant/refugee families in North Seattle (in Lake City, Pinehurst, near Aurora, etc).

Also, remember that Erin Dury - who now has a leading position in SCPTSA - was resoundingly rejected by the voters last year even after she was appointed to fill Eden Mack's seat. She barely got 10% of the vote. The public does not want what SCPTSA is selling.

Registered Voter

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