Seattle School Board Wednesday Work Sessions, September 24, 2025

Update 3:

Director Rankin thanked the Alliance for Education for paying for the work of Education Resource Strategies. 

So that's where the money came from for this effort.  

 end of update 

Update 2:

The West Seattle Blog covered the portion of yesterday's Board Special Meeting on high school lunches. Here's what they reported:

The justification was simple. “We serve more lunches if there are multiple lunch periods.” said superintendent Fred Podesta. He provided statistics such as a case study from Cleveland High School that showed splitting the lunch period led to 31 percent more lunches being served to students, addressing the district’s persistent concerns about food access. Other justifications were reiterated, such as the need for staff to take their own breaks in accordance with contracts, which were noted in the slide deck posted before the meeting.

Nonetheless, acknowledging the community backlash, the district plans some “mitigations” and will seek community engagement. Many complaints were from students feeling that the change would split personal availability and time to use for either extracurricular or personal matters: the ability to schedule a club meeting, meet with a teacher, do homework in advance of a class, or to be able to see friends. Some possibilities include a scheduled advisory time between students and teachers, more flexible choices for students in the time of their lunch period, and shifting club meeting times.

It was noted that meetings are under way with student leaders from affected schools to ask them for feedback. Coordination with school principals on the implementation of the plan was promised too.  

Associate superintendent Dr. Rocky Torres-Morales noted there are many different approaches on how to deal with the change, and these will be left to each respective school implementing the change. “Each school is their own school, there is no one size fits all decision.” he said.

Also discussed: The school lunch change as part of their overall plan to re-evaluate the high school day this year and next. A task force will be dedicated to the re-evaluation, working on options for equitable access to credit-earning opportunities, protecting time for extracurricular activities, and reviewing school start and end times, among other goals.

end of update 

Update 1:

Here's the pertinent info for the October enrollment presentation:

• Projected Fall 2025 Enrollment: 48,963
• Spring 2025 Projections: 49,080 (June adjustment)
Notable Highlights:

- Kindergarten up from spring projections

-Kindergarten capture rate will rise for the first time in five years 

Total enrollment is now just under 49,000.

There is also a High School Lunch presentation attached to the agenda. ALL THE HIGH SCHOOLS WILL GO TO TWO LUNCH PERIODS BY OCTOBER 6TH. 

There are some mitigations listed and the district is also to "convene a taskforce to evaluate the high school day - using time as a resource." 

end of update 

There has now been documentation attached to the Board Work Sessions for tomorrow. 

As you may recall, there are four topics - October enrollment, High School lunch, budget, and "Strategic Resource Analysis."

Staff is not showing its hand on either enrollment or high school lunch but for the other topics, there are attached presentations.  

Remember I said there was quite a long stretch of time for the Strategic Resource Analysis at nearly two hours? I was wrong because this report -from the consulting group Education Resource Strategies - is 212 pages. Did I look at every page? I did but I wonder if all the members of the Board will have. I will be irritated if there are questions asked that could be answered by reading this document (and I can guess in advance who will ask them). 

ERS funders include the Gates Foundation, Carnegie Corporation of NY, Raikes Foundation, and others. 

This report is entitled, "Aligning Resources to Strategy and Need: Diagnostic Analysis for Seattle Public Schools." It is a very meaty report with a huge amount of information and data.  They have "key insights" tied to the SPS Goals and Guardrails. 

It is divided into the presentation (about 45 pages) and then the entire report. The presentation appears to be topline info. 

By examining how resources are allocated and used, SPS is building a shared fact base on the current state of resources to identify and prioritize actions needed to address inequities across the system. 

Resource equity means schools, the district, and the community working together to ensure every student has access to the right mix of resources and supports needed for high-quality learning. It ensures that all schools across the district create opportunities for every student - so that race and family income no longer determine a student's future.

That last sentence is wrong. Frankly, I think it's magical thinking. It should read:

It ensures that all schools across the district create opportunities for every student - so that race and family income no longer determine a student's outcome in SPS. 

Why would I change that? Because, like leaving out unions as one part of the district's challenges, in that sentence they left out the role of parents and families in a child's life. SPS cannot be held responsible for all aspects of a student's life. 

I note that they only touched on some of the Goals and Guardrails in writing this report. 

They do say that this report is "a snapshot of the current resource use patterns and what contributes to those patterns." 

The report does not identify cost reduction opportunities to close the deficit. Its purpose is to align resources to strategy and effective practice while giving the incoming Superintendent and the community a clear picture of how current spending patterns connect to student and staff experiences.  

They also claim that in 2023-2024, there were 49,226 students which matches what the district's "About" page at the SPS website says. But then, on page 23 of the second document they say the "total enrollment for 2024-2025 was 51,729. That just isn't right and I wonder how they got that figure. If only that had been the enrollment. This is on page 23 of the report. 

Here are their "Key Insights:"

1. Potential misalignment of school funding levels, need, and the desired student and staff experiences.

2. Unsustainable district operations given current fiscal deficit conditions.

3. Variation in student access to advanced coursework.

4. Inequitable student access to experienced educators.

5. Inconsistent and/or inadequate support for school leaders given variation in leader experience and ambiguity around school autonomy.

6. Challenges with strategy implementation driven by a lack(sic) organizational alignment and clarity of ownership. 

 

Pages of interest:

Page 12 - Per Pupil Budgeted Spend by School Poverty Level. This chart shows the spending for lower poverty concentrated schools vs highest poverty concentrated schools. 

For K-5 and K-8, it's $16,381 on the low end and $22,943 on the high end.

For Middle and High schools, it's $13,551 on the low end and $18,876 on the high end.

They do state that most of the additional spending at higher poverty concentrations are because of Special Education and ELL. 

Page 15 asks principals this question - Are positions and dollars allocated fairly based on my school's needs?

The AVERAGE is 34% agree or strongly agree. Broken down it's 29% for elementaries, 44% for K-8s, 33% for middle schools, and 45% for high schools. Ouch.  

On another page it's noted that:

Forty-two percent of principals have 0-2 years of experience. That's seems like a high number of newbies to me. 

Also:

Only half of school leaders agree that 1) central office departments coordinate effectively to provide support, and 2) share that they can easily find the correct support person.  

Page 16 has an interesting statement:

Review and realign resource allocation practices to ensure funding is distributed more transparently and equitably across schools, particularly those serving higher-need students based on the experiences SPS desires to create for its students and staff.

If you have less than 50% of principals believing their schools are funded "fairly," I'm not sure what moving money around might do. And that "experiences SPS desires to create" certainly smacks of "well-resourced schools."  

And on Page 18, we see that SPS spends more than peer districts by about $2K. Those peer districts were Albuquerque, Portland, Metro Nashville, Denver, and Columbus, Ohio. 

Page 20 shows that out of 120 large urban districts in the US, Seattle is 9th in the highest rate of smaller elementaries (defined as fewer than 350 students). 

They talk a lot about advanced courses and who enrolls in them. They repeatedly use this word "access" which I think is the wrong word. These courses are accessible but I think the issue is not supporting students soon enough to make that leap to advanced courses. That, of course, needs to be worked on. 

One fascinating finding is:

Page 25 - Proficiency largely closes the gap in AP enrollment for Hispanic students but not for Black students. Hmm.

 Another finding, starting on page 29 is that:

The highest poverty schools in SPS have the highest proportion of teachers with fewer than three years experience. 

Again, they don't mention unions but I'd bet that issue is one that greatly affects this finding. 

 Another key insight:

Challenges with strategy implementation driven by a lack (sic) organizational alignment and clarity of ownership. 

I have heard this over and over for decades.  

Page 43, Guiding Framework for this Work asks some good questions about the Goals and Guardrails, Priorities, Metrics, Strategic Initiatives, and Investments.  

From the Report:

Page 33 - Spending on Transportation exceeds both local and national comparisons - an area worth examining. 

- Highest percentage of its budget spent on student transportation

- Highest cost per rider: $9,155/rider in SPS vs $2,230/rider for peers

- Fewest riders per bus throughout the day compared to WA state peers.

Page 36 - Transportation and Special Education spending is much higher than elsewhere. 

Page 99 breaks down the spending at Central Administration and it's very interesting.  

Page 118 starts the discussion of small schools, citing "the challenges around scale are most predominant at the elementary and K-8 level."

Even though enrollment increased and the rate of small elementaries decreased in the early 2010s, Seattle's elementary portfolio outlook is almost equivalent to what it was 20 years ago.

Page 124 - Small schools are not inherently bad and many in the field of education advocate for small schools by design. 

Page 125 - When small schools are formed by default rather than by design, common challenges may arise. 

Page 133 - SPS has a lower "small school premium" than peer districts, likely due to tradeoffs in student and staff experiences.  

In Seattle, this "premium" is 5% which is much lower than the 15-25% rate seen across other urban districts. 

 Page 136 is a key page in how SPS can make schools better AND drive higher enrollments.  

Seattle should continue to investigate the factors that have driven enrollment loss recently and evaluate whether changes in school programming could attract back lost enrollment and mitigate further loss. 

This could include options like adding intentional programming to support multi-grade classrooms or broader portfolio changes for the district and community to consider like (sic) redrawing attendance zones, reconfigure grade bands across schools (e.g. K-2 and 3-5) or school consolidation.

 

Budget Study Session

This presentation doesn't say much that's new except for a kinda funny example to explain how SPS ended up not being in the hole as much as previously thought.

 • Imagine a family thought they’d need $10,000 from savings to cover their
budget.
• But thanks to $3,600 in surprises (like winning a small lottery prize or canceling
a vacation), they only needed $6,400.
• They still spent more than they earned, but not as much as expected and they
still needed to spend $6,400 out of their savings to make ends meet.

 

Also, they are extending the "interfund loan for at least one more year" and deferring repayment to the Rainy Day Fund. 

As I mentioned, there is no notice of the role of unions in budgeting. Also, I don't care what they are saying they are cutting at Central Administration, they are spending a lot on consultants. Which also doesn't get mentioned. 

More on this in another post as I finally got some clarity on spending on Student Outcome Focused Governance via public disclosure documents.  

Comments

Outsider said…
What is the "Comprehensive geographic equity plan"? It's mentioned as a "major work stream" for the district in the budget document, but I don't remember hearing of it before.
Anonymous said…
What a mess.This board is a mess. Only three people showed up in person. I think Clark and and Mizrahi were on the phone and not sure if Hersey and Briggs even showed up.
Clark was an embarrassing disaster, trying to articulate something, contradicting herself and asking to circle back to her after she gathered her thoughts, just to come back with the same non sense. I think Melissa here was much more prepared reading the materials before the meeting than Clark was.
I heard Ranking say something about how the presentation validated right sizing schools. Thoughts? Because it makes sense to consolidate schools with tiny enrollment to ensure students have access to P.E and art consistently.
This district leadership and board need to step up to the plate and make hard decisions. Delaying the SRO pilot at Garfield is a disgrace. What are we waiting for, exactly??? Wait until the next shooting?

Fed Up
Anonymous said…
Liza Rankin, is that you posting as "Fed Up?" Your comment is a totally dishonest reflection of the board meeting. Clark did a good job. And no, the presentation did not validate closing schools. It didn't challenge the well-known fact that closures don't save much money (it even acknowledged that "small" schools cost only 5% more to operate than other schools), nor did it mention that those savings don't turn into new resources for other schools. It also did not mention the lost revenue that comes when families leave SPS when their school closes.

SPS also does not have schools with "tiny" enrollment. The October Adjustment presentation did show that kindergarten enrollment is rising. Maybe if SPS decided to treat students and families as valued partners, rather than as hostiles, enrollment would grow more rapidly and we'd be back to pre-pandemic numbers.

Meeting Viewer
Meeting Viewer, I'm pretty much with Fed Up.

Clark WAS a mess. It was very uncomfortable to hear her struggle and then give up. Then they circle back to her as she asked and she still had issues being clear. Not a good showing from her.

I think the presentation tried to be balanced on the issue of small schools but yes, the ERS people were clear that SPS has a problem with many smaller schools relative to other districts. Rankin pounced on that, almost happily. The ERS people were clear that their presentation was not about how to save money but rather, the data and metrics of what is happening is SPS. So it wasn't the time to debate closing schools.

There was never any explanation of why Briggs was not there and Topp had to leave after the ERS presentation. Not sure Briggs is really committed to this work; she never seems prepared.

I will add that I tire of both Sarju and Rankin talking about how they have been talking about "these issues" for a long time. They are quite smug about it. I'm glad Sarju is leaving and maybe a new Board majority might rein in Rankin.
Anonymous said…
Liza Rankin? Who, me? No, I am just a Fed Up parent asking questions. I believe Sanislo Elementary has tiny enrollment from my perspective but not from yours. The enrollment presentation did show enrollment increasing but that does not make a school with tiny enrollment all of a sudden have enough students to”justify” a full time librarian or art teacher.
Education is not a priority for the state so we are just fighting for scraps. It’s aggravating and that’s why I am

Fed Up
Anonymous said…
Melissa took notice and wrote:
"They also claim that in 2023-2024, there were 49,226 students which matches what the district's "About" page at the SPS website says. But then, on page 23 of the second document they say the "total enrollment for 2024-2025 was 51,729. That just isn't right and I wonder how they got that figure."

FYI, you can see "P223 Enrollment Reporting" on the district's own website, without no explanation of what P223 means:
(See P 110, of Enrollment as of September 11, 2025)
Total Student Count: 50263
P223 Total Count: 48343
P223 Total FTE: 47542.79

https://www.seattleschools.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/P223_Sep25.pdf

How did they get extra 2,720.21 students enrolled to boost the number to 50,263, including the 0.21 student? Are these ghost students?

Mystery of P223
Anonymous said…
If you want a new board to rein in Rankin, then that requires electing Clark. Kathleen Smith has made it very clear she sees Rankin as a mentor and an ally. Meaning, if Smith wins, *Rankin* will be in the board majority, and will almost certainly be board president again.

Meeting Viewer
Meeting Viewer, I don't think so. Please tell me why you think this and where she said it.
Anonymous said…
She's said it on the campaign trail here in Seattle. The closest she's come in something that's been published is this: https://www.rainydayrecess.org/2230213/episodes/17500219-kathleen-smith-d2-seattle-school-board-candidate

Her questionnaire responses are also almost verbatim Liza Rankin-speak, as if Liza actually wrote them herself (or advised Kathleen how to respond).

In any case, those of us actually here on the ground watching these candidates campaign are well aware that Smith has allied herself with Rankin. You don't get to discount this based on vibes from three states away.

Meeting Viewer
Anonymous said…
Meeting watcher,
I did listen to the interview and heard Smith reply to the question which director she was looking forward to work with, she said Rankin. I listened and read the transcript and I completely disagree your claim of verbatim Liza speak.
Is this you, Robert? Because I can’t think of anyone more laser focused on Rankin. Seems personal.
And Melissa can ABSOLUTELY make better assessments and opinions than anyone here “on the ground”. I am a dude and this exchange has tinges of misogyny. Gross.

Fed Up
Meeting Viewer, I listened to the Rainy Day session with Smith; I did not get that impression at all. She told me in her interview that she does not know Rankin. And, in fact, the person who urged her to run is Chris Jackins. And Jackins is in no way aligned with Rankin.

As for where I am, know what? I am STILL at nearly every single meeting that is online. I am STILL watching every Board meeting.

As for being "on the ground," well, I have sources/spies everywhere. I am SO appreciative of their help and they are how I know some things before it gets published anywhere else.

I will be publishing my own endorsements soon.
Anonymous said…
If she told you she doesn't know Rankin, she is outright lying. They have been in regular communication since at least June.

Chris Jackins made a big mistake in urging Smith to run against Clark. Jackins helped support the recall against Rankin, and has been great overall in terms of SPS advocacy. But sometimes good people get it wrong. Here, he got it really wrong. By undermining Clark, he is giving a major boost to Rankin. If Smith wins, it's entirely possible Rankin could be board president again.

People in Seattle who want to reverse Rankin's policies are backing Clark, like All Together for Seattle Schools. That should tell you a lot.

Meeting Viewer
Meeting Viewer, those are some big accusations and where’s your proof? Ah, is it “I heard?” So I’m wrong and Chris is wrong, too. I don’t see how Rankin could be elected as president again. She just won’t. But apparently, at my old age and experience, I’ve been hoodwinked. Sigh.
I’m more worried about Carol Rava getting elected than Kathleen Smith.

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