Lincoln High School Info
Update: From a photo taken at the meeting last night, a huge turnout.
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I did not attend tonight's meeting at Lincoln but here's some info that other parents had up at Facebook.
Anyone attend with more to add?
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I did not attend tonight's meeting at Lincoln but here's some info that other parents had up at Facebook.
Anyone attend with more to add?
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Why is there a general statement about current students at Garfield or Ingraham who may opt into their neighborhood school? Don't students always have an option to opt into their neighborhood school at any time?
If this is supposed to mean that students at Garfield or Ingraham can opt into their neighborhood school meaning specifically Lincoln they need to be more specific. That is a very confusing statement and also does not specify grade level that Lincoln will serve which is only those who will be 9th and 10th next year.
Confused
Fairmount Parent
SPS Mom, I urge you to call Enrollment (not AL) and ask. I would give you the answer I think is right which is that you go to Ingraham.
The district page linked below lists the HCC pathways from years ago (from before Jane Addams or Eagle Staff or Meany opened):
• Students who live in the Eckstein, Hamilton, Jane Addams, Whitman, or McClure service areas will be assigned to Cascadia Elementary, Hamilton, and Garfield pathway.
and
• Students who live in the Washington, Mercer, Aki Kurose, Madison, or Denny service areas will be assigned to the Thurgood Marshall, Washington, and Garfield pathway.
And suggests that families who want to know more should read the following 89 pages of district procedural documents:
1. The 67-page-long Superintendent's Procedures for Student Assignment
2. The 15-page-long Student Assignment Transition Plan for 2016-17
3. The 7-page-long Superintendent Procedure 2190
Thanks for making kids' access to a basic education easy, SPS! Is this how underserved families get equitable access to programs?
https://www.seattleschools.org/departments/advanced_learning/services_and_programs/hcc_assignment/highly_capable_cohort___h_c_c__eligibility_and_ass
Confused
Assuming this all holds, page 14 of the PDF is what you're looking for.
"[HC] Students eligible, but not enrolled as HC, will receive an initial assignment to their attendance area high school. These students may also apply during Open Enrollment to attend their pathway high school and will receive placement at this site. These students may also apply during the Open Enrollment process for the IBX program at Ingraham. Assignment depends on space available; tiebreakers apply during Open Enrollment.
If they apply for their attendance area high school during Open Enrollment through May 31, they will be assigned to their attendance area school (unless they apply for and are assigned to a higher ranked choice).
IBX: Students may also apply for the IBX program at Ingraham; assignment to Ingraham depends on space available and tiebreakers. If not assigned to IBX at Ingraham, they retain a seat at their pathway school (unless they apply for and are assigned to a higher ranked choice.) Assignment depends on space available; tiebreakers apply during Open Enrollment."
Further down, the planned HC high school pathways by middle school service area are:
Aki Kurose, Meany, Mercer, Washington: Garfield
Denny, Madison: West Seattle
Eagle Staff, Eckstein, Hamilton, Jane Addams, McClure, Whitman: Lincoln
All of that said, remember that things could change at the board meeting in a week.
there are also grandfathered students:
this year's freshmen at ghs can continue.
this year's west seattle 7-8th graders at wms can continue to ghs not wsh.
at least that is my understanding. and yet i thought that this was all approved when tolley tried to ram through pathways for all and then kari hanson, geary and dewolf- who were completely complicit in this illegal plan- looked as if they were holding back their tears when calmer heads prevailed. i'm so sorry. especially since we all know the plan is 90% white, is he out next year? shheesssh.
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Jane
The district needs to make these things clear.
Thanks for your help.
sixwrens
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https://www.publicschoolreview.com/blog/is-expeditionary-learning-the-future-in-public-schools-some-say-yes
https://explorationsinliteracyblog.wordpress.com/2016/12/04/expeditionary-learning/
Franken Stein
For HC kids specifically, regarding Lincoln as the new pathway I predict a few things. I predict a very low 10th grade HC enrollment next year as many were grandfathered and others will not want to leave their high schools. 9th grade HC enrollment will be higher as those kids will be starting first year of high school. However Ingraham & also maybe RHS & BHS will also have a decent enrollment and will draw some HC kids (if neighborhood school) due to being established schools.
Friends also play a big role in which schools students choose for students who have a choice. If Lincoln becomes popular, HC kids will gravitate like they did for Garfield just due to it being labeled a pathway. Not because they are offering anything better for HC than the other schools, including RHS & BHS.
I also predict Ingraham will also draw many general education students, as they will open up those 500 seats to kids who previously could not access Ingraham. Therefore, many kids will have a true choice of at least two schools neighborhood or Ingraham. It will be interesting if they cap HC to 90 freshman as previous years.
Just Guessing
From the huge amount of work I see parents and Lincoln alumni doing, I think it will be a warm, welcoming community.
However, the district is giving off mixed messages on what kind of school this will be and, at this point, it's getting a little late. My belief has always been that 1)it should be a world school a la Sealth and 2) that it should be strictly focused on academics first and identity second. You can always bring on a focus after a couple of years of putting down roots. But it would be folly to have Hamilton nearly just across the street and not be a world school.
Just Guessing is probably right in his/her guesses.
It does not help that the district and the Board are continuing to drag out HCC issues.
* The district will want to fill Lincoln so that the school has the best start possible. I would expect that the district will give virtually no choice seats out of Lincoln to other schools.
* I agree with Just Guessing that relatively few HCC 10th graders will move to Lincoln. I think that's probably healthy for the school, since it would probably be difficult to give them the classes that HCC students take in 10th grade that Gen Ed students take in 11th and 12th grade when the school doesn't have any 11th or 12th graders.
* If the high school WSS change of 29:1 to 30:1 goes through, most schools are going to lose teachers. The principals aren't going to want to give up students and possibly lose more teachers. I would expect that there aren't going to be very many waitlist moves.
* A year or two ago, the plan was to increase the 90-student cap on HCC at Ingraham to 120 students once the addition opens. We'll see if that happens in the new environment.
Unclear
The Lincoln course catalog has been out for a while now:
https://lincolnhs.seattleschools.org/academics/course_catalog
Krab
Or the teacher who made a point of saying they all believe in making challenge accessible to all students (good!) in all classes (good!) but not in separate classes (?) and they offer an honors option, but not until semester 2?
On the positive side, there's at least one Lincoln teacher who has taught HCC and has a HCC kid. But it's hard to know if many of the staff believe in advanced learning. I can't tell if they are excited about dual language either. Project based learning seems to be their main interest.
When Principal Medsker signed on, Lincoln was not yet a HCC or dual language school. Could that be part of the problem? Whatever the case may be, let's hope all staffmembers adjust and welcome the school's assigned pathways and all the kids that are coming.
Jaclyn Hyde
I am concerned about the few HC 10th graders who may enroll in Lincoln. Do you think science will be the only course they need to offer that is specific for 10th grade HC? Thinking about it, I believe all other classes could also combine HC, gen ed and spectrum students.
Just Guessing
LA and social studies will probably be honors classes that will be good enough but not ideal. Perhaps an AP or two if they can fill the classes, but that's probably not necessary. Ideal and not necessary aren't going to get funded this year unless something big happens at the state level.
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parent
I recently found out at our high school Spanish 3 teacher it is commonplace for students to skip Spanish 4 and go right into AP Spanish. They only recommend Spanish 4 for students who want some review and are not strong in Spanish 3.
Upon further reflection, a big difference between Lincoln for 10th next year and other schools may be a lack of sections due to less 11th and 12th graders who would be filling classes.
This will likely lead to less ability to take for example 3AP classes in 10th, fitting in band/orchestra or other electives etc. The one reason Garfield, Ballard & Roosevelt work so well (for not only HC but other kids) taking the same kind of schedules, is they have lots of students in grades 10,11 & 12 demanding AP classes and electives. It creates multiple sections which enable students to more easily put together their schedules.
Otherwise, I would think courses and sections will be more somewhat more limited in the beginning. Given the budget issue impacting everything next year including offering the new science sequence, cutting librarians to .50FTE etc I would also be concerned. However, on the other hand, I know the district would like Lincoln to open as a success to maybe they will prioritize needs at that school.
Just Guessing
According to the Lincoln catalog, AP Physics will be offered, but it has HS physics as a prerequisite. My understanding was that the Physical Science class they would have taken in 7th grade isn't really a physics class so probably wouldn't count. Is that not the case, and Lincoln WILL let a student in this situation take AP Physics?
And in a potentially more challenging change to the scenario, say this student took Physical Sci in 7th, Biology in 8th, then PHYSICS in 9th grade. What can they take in 10th? AP Chem isn't on the list of offerings (and then we'd revert back to that same question re: whether 7th grade physical science can also fulfill a HS chemistry prerequisite). Does a student in this boat have to take another year of Physics if they want a science, and if so, is there really any sense that the AP Physics class at Lincoln will be that much more advanced than whatever physics class they might have taken in 9th at BHS or RHS?
Re: SS, can a 10th grader only get in 1 semester of their SS requirement? It looks like they'll have to put the rest off until later.
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Wouldn't that make Lincoln the only high school doing dual language? My understanding is that Ingraham and Sealth are "world schools" but don't do any dual language.
Just Guessing
They were given notice and were grandfathered at Ingraham & Garfield, schools that had a spike in 9th grade HC enrollment this past year. If any went to a neighborhood school it was likely an intentional choice to transfer/geosplit into Lincoln in 10th.
Just Guessing
P.S As Eric mentioned I agree there will be few in that position which is a good thing.
Just Guessing
Maybe AP Environmental Science could be offered the first year if they hear enough interest. Currently, it is not slated to be offered the 1st year, but in an earlier presentation, they were encouraging that class for HCC 10th graders.
Perhaps kids coming from Roosevelt and Ballard, and possibly HCC kids could take it in 9th or 10th. That way, no curriculum would need to be repeated by incoming 10th graders. Students could still get exposure to Physics or AP physics, and Chem or AP chem as needed, and they will have covered the needed material before the 11th grade assessment required for graduation. I don't know if chemA/physA or chemB/physB will be considered the prerequisite to take AP Physics or AP Chem.
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Helen
I believe that Chief Sealth offers a full immersion pathway in Spanish for students coming from dual language immersion: World History I & II, Global Leadership, IB History of the Americas, and IB 20th Century World History.
-DLI Info
Pretty darn sure that 7th grade PhySci would NOT fulfill a basic HS chem prereq for AP chem. There's very little chem content in that class. Remember, the chem sequence is different from physics, AP chem is not just an advanced version of first year HS chem, it's supposed to be taken after a full year of HS chem has been completed (with a passing grade). This is true for all students, HCC or not.
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This decline in student numbers at BHS might result in a more manageable student body (the building was built for 1600, and had to add portables in the last couple of years) but it also means the building will have to displace about ten educators.
Combined with the new WSS and District funding issues (such as their proposed 0.5 FTE instead of 1.0 FTE school librarians in MS and HS), BHS will, perhaps, lose 15 staff members, which is significant.
On a personal note, when I was 22 I lived with my girlfriend just three blocks from Lincoln as it was being closed. It was so sad for us to walk by and see the students around the building, knowing it was their last year. Then the doors were chained shut...
I'm glad to see the neighborhood get a high school back. Would that we could reopen Summit, Marshall, Queen Anne and all the other schools and programs shuttered over the years...