Which Schools Might Close?

One item - A reader said that the district really should use clear language in what is happening.

The message to parents talks about “consolidating” five schools, without actually saying what “consolidation” means. Closing? Merging? 

Good point as San Francisco Unified School District is even considering co-locations (although that has not been mentioned in Seattle Schools at all). 

I believe, legally, these will be closures. But the dispersement of students from a closed school is key along with the transition plan for the receiving school (s). It would be great to keep students together but we would know if that's possible once they name the closing schools as well as the possible receiving schools. 

In fact, keeping students together may influence which schools are picked. The district tweaked the list of criteria to include this factor. 

I do want to point out that the district - and the district alone - is responsible for the condition of every single building. That is not something any school community has control over except possibly their playground. 

I do believe it will only be K-5 elementaries as the district said K-8 and Option Schools are off the table. 

Preliminary List

NW - There was just one K-5 on the list and that is North Beach Elementary.

NE - On the other hand, there are many in this region. Green Lake, Decatur, Sacajwea, Laurelhurst

Central - John Hay, McGilvra, Stevens

SE - Dunlap or Rainier View

SW - Sanislo or Lafayette 

One wild card will be if the district tries to act in every region to look fair or be ruthless with the criteria and let the chips fall where they may. I suspect the former. 

Enrollment numbers from 2023-2024. 


Predictions

NW - North Beach. They are in an old and tired building that long ago seemed poised for a remodel. But my intel is that it's a close school community; they may fight back. They have 367 students who would likely go to Viewlands which is newly renovated for 650 and currently has 267.


NE - Decatur. Only because it is so very close to Thornton Creek. Decatur is currently at 231 and Thornton Creek is built for 660 but has 455.

I note that this map updated 6/26/2024 doesn't even have Decatur on it. 

I could see them also closing Cedar Park (272) or Sacajwea (229) and moving one into the newly rebuilt John Rogers (currently 188). I also saw this notation about the rebuild of Roger which is due to be done by summer 2025:

Once complete, the school will provide an equitable learning space for up to 500 K-5 elementary students and an area to expand the school in the future as enrollment grows.

So they could expand it even more.  


Central - Stevens (152) or McGilvra (216). Why? Because they sure can't fill that newly renovated Montlake Elementary (168) on their own. I think John Hay is off the hook. I think the district is taking a big gamble on renovating Montlake, seemingly on the premise that "if we build it, they will come." Because putting current Montlake enrollment with say, McGilvra, you get 374 students. That's not filling that space. 


SE - Dunlap.  That's simply because RVE is so isolated. There are schools all around Dunlap. And, if they can't get South Shore K-8 to fill (and they never have), it's likely to change to a K-5.

 

SW - Sanislo. I say that ONLY because I cannot believe that the district would close Lafayette and send their kids in multiple directions. If they closed Lafayette (505), where would all those kids go? Alki Elementary's rebuild won't be done until 2026. You could send some of Lafayette's students to the interim site at Schmitz Park with Alki kids but they couldn't all fit. The other nearby school is Genesee Hill but they appear to be nearly full.

It just wouldn't make sense and cause a lot of pain.

But even though Lafayette is near full and has a strong community, again, the district is not rebuilding Alki (271) for nothing. I think the rebuild of Alki will turn out to be folly and they should have redone Schmitz Park.

Thoughts?

Comments

IMO said…
Sandpoint is quite small. There could be possible consolidation across View Ridge and Laurelhurst.

Option schools may be off the table, but Licton Springs and Queen Anne have both gotten quite small. I don't know if this is due to how the waitlists are handled, but it seems like it would be ideal if they could figure out how to better enroll these two schools. Licton Springs has a nice new building but only 92 kids in the whole K-8; perhaps it could be a candidate with co-location.
NB mom said…
North Beach has a very vibrant and involved school community and we do not want to close! Not sure if you have mentioned it yet, but some parents started fundsps.org to raise attention to the budget issues, etc and it has been getting the word out. A lot of parents are fired up and ready to fight.
Anonymous said…
Predictions- one elementary per region
SE- Rainier View
SW- Sanislo
Central- Stevens
NE- Cedar Park
NW- Licton Springs (90 students, seriously?)
Anonymous said…
My kids went to Schmitz Park and Genesee Hill and are now in high school. But the Alki rebuild has never made sense when the Schmitz Park site is right there with so much land you could build a new school next to the old one. Why squeeze so many students into the Alki footprint with its transportation challenges? And of course Lafayette is very well located to transportation as well, and I can't imagine the district ever giving up that real estate.
Sped mom said…
If they were serious about "consolidating" and not just closing--could they move Licton Springs into the building at Viewlands (or Baldwin?) intact? That would move that school closer to its original home neighborhood and possibly help boost enrollment, and preserve a really unique program. (what do you do with the Webster building is another question....move Adams in to it?)
Anonymous said…
As a long time resident of West Seattle (my kids are out of college) this massive expensive Alki rebuild project makes absolutely zero sense especially considering the District is sitting on a massive parcel of land home to the empty Schmitz Park Elementary. The Alki land makes sense for residential use and the District could sell it for millions. The Schmitz Park land, which was GIFTED to the district, is perfect for a school. Access is easy via Admiral Way/Charleston/49th, all arterial. Plenty of room for parking and bus transportation.
Agree that Sanislo should be closed. The students could easily be served at the lovely WS Elementary or Highland Park Elementary, or Pathfinder or Roxhill at EC Hughes. SMH that the district just let's Schmitz Park sit there empty while forcing Alki into a neighborhood that has outgrown it.
IMO, there is some weird mystery about Sand Point and I sure would like to figure it out. This is why I didn't choose Laurelhurst.

NB Mom, I had indeed heard about your community and I'll try to put that website on Twitter and front-facing on this blog.

Sped Mom, Licton Springs. The district has buffeting this school around and around and discouraged parents from enrolllment for years and years. So they have a small enrollment because of the actions of the district.

However, I like that idea of incorporating it into Viewlands or Baldwin. What is fascinating is the district spent real capital dollars on the Webster building that houses Licton Springs. What was the motivation for that because it surely wasn't really to help LS?

LS said…
IS Green Lake NE as you say? Geographically it is clearly NW
Anonymous said…
I believe they’re being deliberately coy about Sand Point and Laurelhurst to placate Laurelhurst parents until real plans are made. Both schools are too small to fit any rubric that’s been presented, and Laurelhurst is never going to be rebuilt. Sand Point is tiny and has no levy funds allocated for rebuild despite implications in the last “plan” that it would be rebuilt. I think Sand Point and Laurelhurst will be closed soon, but the district needs to stay quiet because that would infuriate at least once relatively well-funded school community that includes >30% kids of color, impact a school that serves a population that’s really unique in the area , and then force major adjustments to the boundaries of two schools who think they’re “safe” in the current plans and are at or close to capacity: View Ridge and Bryant. That would impact ~1000 students.

-NE Mom
LS, I don't say it's NE; the district does.
Anonymous said…
The Sand Point/Laurelhurst thing is indeed a tough knot to unwind. (Though wasn't that Hampson's home school?) Regardless, to start, has anyone ever actually looked at the overhead map at the physical footprints of these two schools? Laurelhurst occupies virtually an entire block whereas Sand Point is this weird little wedge off of a side street. I stumbled across it by accident once when returning from an errand and was shocked that *this* was the school I was reading about being rebuilt.

Once you realize that building Sand Point up to a larger capacity makes almost no sense from an acreage and road access perspective, you're left with Laurelhurst, View Ridge and Bryant to absorb the few students from Sand Point - depending on what happens with Thornton Creek/Decatur**.

But the district (board & admin both) clearly has an ideological axe to grind towards affluent families which propels them towards eliminating the school in the rich neighborhood (Laurelhurst) even if it makes near zero sense to do so from a logistical perspective. To be sure, Sand Point's boundaries take in parts of Windermere & Hawthorne Hills but given the demographics in those neighborhoods coupled with the low enrollment and high free & reduced lunch percentage at Sand Point (71.4% vs 7.4% & 26.1% at View Ridge & Laurelhurst respectively per OSPI 2023), I'm going to speculate that an above average percentage of the kids from the two neighborhoods go to private schools already.

Here is where things get much more politically interesting and unpleasant. Sand Point has a tiny enrollment (217 from OSPI or even less per SPS) but does draw from Magnusson Park. Anyone that lives in the area has likely seen lots of bad news stories from in and around Magnusson such as the recent one about 5 kids who crashed a stolen car on Sand Point and disappeared into the park/housing. Fairly or not, parents read this and think to themselves, maybe those kids *live* in Magnusson and then it follows they probably don't want *those kids* influencing *their kids* at school. The reasonable objection to saying this out loud is that you don't know that about those kids - which is true, but also incredibly naive.

Which then sets off a scuffle between View Ridge and Laurelhurst school populations for who gets stuck with Magnusson Park at their school. But I think the district admin & board members would see that as a feature of a plan. It also would likely have the secondary "benefit" of driving even more affluent families out of the district, which at this point I have to believe is the actual master plan given how nearly every single action they have taken in the past few years has had that effect.

As to who wins that particular scrap? My money is on Laurelhurst since View Ridge currently has a lower percent of free & reduced lunch and while it forces the kids to cross Sand Point and up about 300 feet of elevation, View Ridge Elementary is closer distance-wise to Sand Point Elementary than Laurelhurst. But I suspect as the performance of View Ridge then drops, more of that neighborhood's parents opt for private. So another future win for the district and it's plan to reduce enrollment I guess?

Just Some Commenter Everyman

** Decatur is dead in any plan: HCC has been killed off, the school is decrepit, and it is literally next door to bright & shiny TC.
Anonymous said…
Likely that Decatur is on the chopping block in this plan. Hopefully there is enough room at cascadia to accommodate the 150 kids that otherwise get screwed over going back to non hcc and repeating old material . The hcc program is the only reason we are still keeping our son in the district. If Decatur closes and he’s not guaranteed a spot at cascadia it probably makes sense to move him out next year instead of waiting for middle school. I wish the district cared about academics but it is clear that closing achievement gaps is job one and the only way to do that is to chop off the top.
-Decatur dad.
Anonymous said…
I agree that Sand Point’s campus makes no sense in terms of a rebuild site. It’s tiny and not easy to access. But Laurelhurst can’t re-absorb the Sand Point student body without some kind of boundary adjustments. It currently has multiple classrooms allocated to special programs, which at one point in the last decade (combined with a principal that many did not like) prompted families in the zone to enroll in View Ridge instead. It wasn’t pretty and this FAQ hints at some of the nastiness that surrounded housing those programs at Laurelhurst:

https://laurelhurstes.seattleschools.org/academics/special-education/special-education-f-a-qs/

This is the same school community that couldn’t handle Aki Kurose at their school 50 years ago and threw a public tantrum about it. While it’s way more diverse now, there are plenty of families in the neighborhood whose parents and grandparents were in Laurelhurst during that era.

The school community is being very careful right now and is clearly being thoughtful about managing their messaging this time around, but I don’t know how they get out of a closure short of having the ability to run their own capital campaign to rebuild the school.

If the district could somehow magically raze Laurelhurst elementary and sell the land to developers, it would be well on its way to filling the $100 million gap. Maybe that’s why they want to rebuild Sand Point- the land in that corner would be far more difficult to develop.

-NE Mom
Patrick said…
No matter which schools are closed, I would like the District to address what they will do with them. Last time we had closures, the District just let them sit vacant. There was a great deal of damage done by vandals taking out wiring and plumbing to recycle for a little money. Then it turned out that the District's enrollment projections were terribly wrong (I am trying to stay printable here!) and the District needed the school to reopen within a couple of years. So not only did a lot of work need to be done, but it had to be done on a rush basis as well.

Selling the land would bring in a lot of money, but when it's gone, it's gone. If the enrollment projections are still not good, we might need the schools again. If we keep the schools, will they be paying a night watchman? Are there possible tenants who would pay enough to be worth having, who could also vacate on a year's notice if the school is needed again? I'd like to see the District's plan, and the numbers behind it. I suspect if they really take into account all the costs of closing schools and keeping them around if needed that keeping them open would look like a much better option.

Anonymous said…
@NE Mom-

Interesting. I had no idea that Laurelhurst housed that program or that recent principal history. (View Ridge had a similar principal issue a few years ago as I recall.) I definitely agree that if the district could somehow sell off that plot, they would do it in a heartbeat - even if it was just out of spite towards the neighborhood. And the district would NEVER allow the neighborhood to fund a new build in my opinion. Peak inequity.

I happened to drive past it yesterday and I can only imagine what that land could fetch considering you could probably fit a bare minimum of 20 new single family homes but I could imagine a scenario with those tall townhome-ish things where closer to 40+ units were placed there that sold on average for $850-900K+. That said, I'm sure developing it would be a nightmare for anyone as they would have to fight the neighborhood to do it.

What I could see in the event of a closure is a school like Villa - practically around the corner from Laurelhurst Elementary - expanding their enrollment and using the Elementary facilities. Though I've not been inside of the school so I don't know if the condition is up to Villa's standards or not. I just can't see how the Laurelhurst property gets sold because as Patrick says, once it is gone, it's gone and that is a decent swathe for Bryant & Sand Point Elementary to cover, even if you push some Bryant enrollment into View Ridge/Wedgood +/- whatever happens to Decatur/Thornton Creek. Then again, I wouldn't want to bet against this group deploying some nuclear-grade stupidity.

- Just Some Commenter Everyman

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