Seattle Times "Story" on Superintendents and School Board
Update: And now the Times editorial board weighs in. Yawn. Same old, same old (you'd think they would try a new tack but no.) The Times absolutely refuses to acknowledge the reasons for the turnover in Seattle superintendents. What is the Board to do in the fact of not one but two financial scandals? Keep those superintendents? C'mon.
Then they speak of "a curiosity for a change in governance." I hate to break it to them but that "curiosity" is only Tim Burgess, LEV and the Seattle Times. Not in progressive Seattle.
And they speak of respect "for staff" as they incessantly berate the Board. Oh kettle, it's the pot calling.
End of update.
Of all the issues for the Times to cover about Seattle Public Schools, they pick the issue of superintendents working with school boards.
This is an old, tired issue that the Times has covered...repeatedly. In fact, it seems their go-to, defacto answer to ANY issue in Seattle Schools. That darned micromanaging School Board. It seems particularly inappropriate at this time (unless, of course, you were the powers that be in this town trying to send a public message to the Board about how they interact with our new interim superintendent.)
Did the School Board stand up recently on some issues and flex their elected muscle? They did and they were within their rights to do so. Especially on the issue of bell times. I say that because the staff does NOT set the priorities; the Board does. The staff then lays out a plan to enact those priorities.
This is one of the worst articles on this issue that the Times has published.
In it, it is revealed that Banda sent an e-mail to the board about treatment of staff about the elementary math adoption process. I had heard about this but that Banda released the e-mail - as he goes out the door - is very bad form on his part. But I suppose he felt the need to protect the staff from that bad, bad School Board.
Nonsense.
From some of the comments from certain Board members, it seems that they don't remember when the admonishment was to not speak ill of each other publicly. That past Board members got royally called out, by the Times, over doing just that seems to be forgotten. And yet, it is now happening.
The litany of calling out goes on from Councilman Tim Burgess and the Alliance's Sara Morris.
I also have to wonder at the credit being given to Banda. He helped pass BEX IV and the Operations levies? Honestly, that work had started long before he got here and he was a figurehead. I didn't see him working those levies any differently from any other superintendent.
As well, there was this odd sentence in the Times' article:
He hired several senior managers and helped create a five-year plan to boost achievement for all students, regardless of race, disability, or background.
First, if you have openings at a government agency, you fill them. Is that an accomplishment?
Also, what is this about "regardless of race, disability or background?" Is that something new? It is not. And, there is some irony in that credit for how badly our Special Education services have been.
The whopper?
But others say the leader of the state's largest school district needs to be a strong moral authority for K-12 education - someone who can stand out in a district pulled in different directions by education advocates, and stand up to a School Board that's been accused of bullying and micromanaging by its top leadership.
Moral authority? Are we looking for a pope or a superintendent? Rep. Reuven Carlyle seems to have planted this idea to the Times as he is quoted as saying it.
The superintendent does not need to "stand up" to the Board. The superintendent needs to stand by his/her staff and work with the Board. Reasonable people can disagree and as long as it is clear on scope of responsibilities and authority, I think everyone CAN be reasonable.
(And fyi, the entire Board has NOT been accused of bullying/micromanaging but thanks for planting and nurturing that seed, Times.)
On the issue of bell times, Banda is quoted as saying that he told the Board, warned the Board, that there might trade-offs to pursing later starts for secondary students. Fine, he gave them the heads up but the Board sets the priorities. The staff can disagree but the Board is within their legal rights to set those priorities for the district.
And Charles Wright is quoted as saying he didn't feel "safe" in telling the Board bad news. That's pretty hard to believe given his performance at the last Board retreat. He certainly felt "safe" enough to call out the Board for asking for too much info too many times.
Could all members of the Board be more careful with their words? Probably. We all could. But I note that, time after time, the Board says thank you for the work before they say anything else. They give kudos and credit to the staff all the time and in public.
I also note that President Peaslee says that the public attacks on the Board don't help matters just as people claim the Board - some of the Board - attack staff members. She's right.
What's interesting is they get a quote from Marysville School Board VP Chris Nation on this issue but not our soon-to-be superintendent, Larry Nyland.
I'm more interested in what Nyland says and does.
Then they speak of "a curiosity for a change in governance." I hate to break it to them but that "curiosity" is only Tim Burgess, LEV and the Seattle Times. Not in progressive Seattle.
And they speak of respect "for staff" as they incessantly berate the Board. Oh kettle, it's the pot calling.
End of update.
Of all the issues for the Times to cover about Seattle Public Schools, they pick the issue of superintendents working with school boards.
This is an old, tired issue that the Times has covered...repeatedly. In fact, it seems their go-to, defacto answer to ANY issue in Seattle Schools. That darned micromanaging School Board. It seems particularly inappropriate at this time (unless, of course, you were the powers that be in this town trying to send a public message to the Board about how they interact with our new interim superintendent.)
Did the School Board stand up recently on some issues and flex their elected muscle? They did and they were within their rights to do so. Especially on the issue of bell times. I say that because the staff does NOT set the priorities; the Board does. The staff then lays out a plan to enact those priorities.
This is one of the worst articles on this issue that the Times has published.
In it, it is revealed that Banda sent an e-mail to the board about treatment of staff about the elementary math adoption process. I had heard about this but that Banda released the e-mail - as he goes out the door - is very bad form on his part. But I suppose he felt the need to protect the staff from that bad, bad School Board.
Nonsense.
From some of the comments from certain Board members, it seems that they don't remember when the admonishment was to not speak ill of each other publicly. That past Board members got royally called out, by the Times, over doing just that seems to be forgotten. And yet, it is now happening.
The litany of calling out goes on from Councilman Tim Burgess and the Alliance's Sara Morris.
I also have to wonder at the credit being given to Banda. He helped pass BEX IV and the Operations levies? Honestly, that work had started long before he got here and he was a figurehead. I didn't see him working those levies any differently from any other superintendent.
As well, there was this odd sentence in the Times' article:
He hired several senior managers and helped create a five-year plan to boost achievement for all students, regardless of race, disability, or background.
First, if you have openings at a government agency, you fill them. Is that an accomplishment?
Also, what is this about "regardless of race, disability or background?" Is that something new? It is not. And, there is some irony in that credit for how badly our Special Education services have been.
The whopper?
But others say the leader of the state's largest school district needs to be a strong moral authority for K-12 education - someone who can stand out in a district pulled in different directions by education advocates, and stand up to a School Board that's been accused of bullying and micromanaging by its top leadership.
Moral authority? Are we looking for a pope or a superintendent? Rep. Reuven Carlyle seems to have planted this idea to the Times as he is quoted as saying it.
The superintendent does not need to "stand up" to the Board. The superintendent needs to stand by his/her staff and work with the Board. Reasonable people can disagree and as long as it is clear on scope of responsibilities and authority, I think everyone CAN be reasonable.
(And fyi, the entire Board has NOT been accused of bullying/micromanaging but thanks for planting and nurturing that seed, Times.)
On the issue of bell times, Banda is quoted as saying that he told the Board, warned the Board, that there might trade-offs to pursing later starts for secondary students. Fine, he gave them the heads up but the Board sets the priorities. The staff can disagree but the Board is within their legal rights to set those priorities for the district.
And Charles Wright is quoted as saying he didn't feel "safe" in telling the Board bad news. That's pretty hard to believe given his performance at the last Board retreat. He certainly felt "safe" enough to call out the Board for asking for too much info too many times.
Could all members of the Board be more careful with their words? Probably. We all could. But I note that, time after time, the Board says thank you for the work before they say anything else. They give kudos and credit to the staff all the time and in public.
I also note that President Peaslee says that the public attacks on the Board don't help matters just as people claim the Board - some of the Board - attack staff members. She's right.
What's interesting is they get a quote from Marysville School Board VP Chris Nation on this issue but not our soon-to-be superintendent, Larry Nyland.
I'm more interested in what Nyland says and does.
Comments
Meanwhile, the unpaid part time Board does their stated duty and picks a district-vetted math textbook (one of the top 3 choices), acts in the interest of its constituents and directs the District to look into bell times based on a huge desire on have part of the consumers if the system, and picks up the pieces when Banda unexpectedly and suddenly breaks his contract.
The Board is by no means perfect, but good lord - Banda and the Times are coming across as a bunch of whiny, spoiled brats here.
Observer
Observer
-GoodRiddance
The Times is accusing Peaslee of bullying. They are parroting Carr. Unbelievable. The Times is clearly nostalgic for the leadership of the past elitists. They are at the least being intellectually dishonest here by supporting the comments made by Carr who came under a lot of deserved fire on this blog.
C'mon, did anybody expect any better from the Seattle Times?
-FedMom0f2
Peters want to be a super but she's not.
social climber
I agree. Reuven Carlyle's quote was ridiculous. Is he implying that others don't have a sense of morality? What does Carlyle mean by "micromanaging"? Is Carlyle referring to the math adoption; something that falls under the board's legal responsibility.
Carlyle has some explaining and apologies to make. Shameful.
This helps explain why some of Carlyle's constituents are not thrilled with him. Glad Gerry Pollet was interviewed. It gets really old having the same cabal of individuals- Burgess, Sara Morris and Carlyle being quoted.
I agree. Reuven Carlyle's quote was ridiculous. Is he implying that others don't have a sense of morality? What does Carlyle mean by "micromanaging"? Is Carlyle referring to the math adoption; something that falls under the board's legal responsibility.
Carlyle has some explaining and apologies to make. Shameful.
This helps explain why some of Carlyle's constituents are not thrilled with him. Glad Gerry Pollet was interviewed. It gets really old having the same cabal of individuals- Burgess, Sara Morris and Carlyle being quoted.
Of coarse to pay for it we will need to gut the administration at the mail sorting facility.
Who wants to gather signatures with me?
--Michael
It's critical for OSPI to see parents think SPED is not working. As of today there 10 citizen complaints and one withdrawn. Although this is a 100% increase from 2013 we still need more to get OSPI and OCR to mandate true change.
Do not withdraw your complaints for withdrawn complaints will not count against the SPS RC-CAP.
Go to https://www.k12.wa.us/SpecialEd/DisputeResolution/CitizenComplaint.aspx
Follow the form example or if you need help email sld.advocate.seattle@gmail.com and someone will be happy to help you through the process.
SLD ADVOCATE
The biggest question? What does "admonish" mean and how would you do that? Because apparently asking questions gets you in trouble as a Board member or pushing back on staff "priorities" versus Board priorities. I'm serious - what does "admonish" look like?
Moral Authority, you are absolutely on point. Burgess is laying this groundwork and it should be clear this is what is coming.
Problem is, I doubt if the voting public - in Seattle - will go along with it.
http://seattletimes.com/html/editorials/2024193224_seattleschoolsedit30xml.html
NEmom
Can I get an "Ahem, Hallelujah!" because our fair emerald city has at least one real newspaper: it is called "The Stranger". Thank goodness!
If you want real ed news, go there (and read the blog:-). I miss Goldie, but The Stranger still can turn out first-rate, thoughtful, real journalism with gravitus, accuracy and objectivity.
The Seattle Times piece was such utter drivel on so many, many levels.
And, not to beat a dead horse, but the math fiasco lies squarely at the feet of Heath and Tolley.
And I didn't know Banda whinnied about that in a blistering attack. That makes me think of him as both stupid callow. As the top educator, he should have been faaaaar more plugged in and not so "hands off" anyway. If he had, he would have done a mid course correction with the MAC, so the disconnect wouldn't have happened.
Heath and Tolley worship at the alter of common core, (haven't you heard? It will save us all!! Yeeehaaa!!"), so they were the ones who honed in to the focal criterion of "alignment to CCSS" to the practical exclusion of ought else, pushing the Math Adoption committee down that singular narrow chute, when in fact, that was but one factor, AND, the better question was simply, "what works best to use to teach kids?".
The question together with ALL of the criteria, including being effective for ALL students, including our ELL students, dyslexic students, etc. was what were needed to guide the MAC. The MAC was improperly steered (not their fault!), so, ask a bad question, get a bad result. In the end, it worked out, become the majority of directors were unwilling to sit by and allow Seattle's children to have 7 more years of unnecessary suboptimal 'investigative' word-heavy math. Another "Thank goodness!!"
The upshot: (1) cancel your subscription to the Seattle Times (read it for free on a browser that doesn't store cookies), (2) read the Stranger for local news, (3) check in with the blog on occasion for timely SPS breaking news, (4) thank Director Peters and McClaren for straight up math for our city's young children, and finally (5) count our lucky stars we have been freed from the ineptitude and do-nothingness of the recent stop-gap placeholder.
STRANGER, not ST
"Can I get an "Ahem, Hallelujah!" because our fair emerald city has at least one real newspaper: it is called "The Stranger"."
Amen. Thank God for the Stranger because 1) they are a good (albeit sometimes racy) counterbalance to the nonsense about public education in the Times and 2) they have a big enough readership that their endorsements influence outcomes. That truly matters.
Banda met 1 in 23 criterion. Yikes.
This one is for Mr Moral Authority- Reuven Carlyle:
“The same president who has insisted that core moralism drives him has brought America to its lowest moral standing in history.”
― Glenn Greenwald,
They have done this as volunteers. I don't know when the last time, any superintendent has served for 4 years, let alone 8. This obsession with a national search is a huge disservice. You need someone with local ties who is invested in Seattle Public Schools.
At this point, the board is the institutional memory. Whether I agree with them or not is irrelevant. The board demonstrates their commitment to Seattle Public Schools over and over again.
The ST could really use some perspective. A quick google easily find stories about significantly more dysfunctional schools boards. Democracy is messy. That should not be a surprise to anyone at the Seattle Times.
You make a very good point. We have, essentially, volunteer board members that serve 4-8 years, but we don't have superintendents stick around for more than 3.
I'm thinking the grass might be greener on the other side for some of these supers. Heck, Banda will be making even more dollars in Sacramento. If he leaves Sacramento, he will have the ability to collect 12 months of full pay= need to check about leaving w/o or w/ cause.
Additionally, I believe Superintendents are vested in a system if they serve 3 years. Why would they stay?
Additionally, Superintendent s don't stick around and they don't take the blame for the mess that they created, or their failures.
When will these interests get over it?
Where would we all be without the dialog you make possible?
We are all in your debt.
The important thing to remember, whenever you’re reading or watching the news, is that someone decided to tell you those things, while leaving out other things. They’re presenting one particular view of the world — not the only one. There’s always another side to the story."
Oliver Burkeman
STRANGER, not ST
NGC
Writing on 6/21:
Once again Seattle is looking to hire a schools' superintendent, just two years after hiring the current one. So you're going to read and hear a lot of people saying stuff like "What the heck is wrong with Seattle that it can't keep a superintendent? There must be something wrong with that school district/school board/city/community/whatever."
I guess Seattle Times picked the Board this time, for reasons some of you speculate above. I just wish Times' readers could be reminded of facts in previous tenures - they might more easily recognize this "newsstory" for the deliberately misleading, defamatory (how about libel, School Board members?) propaganda that it is.
This just the same staff "stay out of my business" attitude that led to "Potter-gate".
And the general counsel is the common denominator.
- Neighborhood Parent
Amen Greeny
He came to Seattle when BEXIV planning was wrapping up, and got to add the passing of a major levy to his resume, but he got the heck out of Dodge in time to avoid responsibility for the inadequacies of BEXIV...such as the looming high school capacity shortage.
He was on his way out of Seattle well before the math adoption vote. I'm wondering if FACMAC's daylighting of the lack of high school seats had anything to do with his decision to leave?
Could you imagine how much less attractive he would be to outside districts if he had stuck around for the high school capacity crunch? It would look as though he wasn't prepared, as a superintendent, to handle matters beyond K-5...
- North-end Mom
These ideas that are about how Mr. Banda wanted to slink out of town before all of these time bombs blow up: high school capacity, Garfield rape case, only 1 out of 23 academic goals met, failure to implement the new special education delivery models and the potential loss of federal funds, failure to implement MTSS, failure to implement Common Core, failure to implement anything and everything, a Strategic Plan printed on toilet paper, zero progress on nearly all projects, the next APP split, a big fight looming over the future of advanced learning, Africatown II, the mess Paul Apostle left behind, a challenging levy vote for the Downtown school, Southshore's conversion to a charter, and probably three or four things that we can't even imagine yet, but which he could see like an oncoming train.
I'll say it again. Senior staff leave Seattle Public Schools because the district is unmanageable. In part due to the toxic culture of the headquarters staff, and in part due to the insurmountable disconnect between the JSCEE and the schools.