Saying No to Mayoral Control
A group of public education activists has come out against Rep. Eric Pettigrew's bill to all the mayor of Seattle to appoint two members of the Seattle School Board. It includes statements from Director Sue Peters who, as far as I know, is the only Board director to go on record. I asked for a statement - a week ago - from the Board but have received no answer.
The Seattle Weekly has a good story that has a startling ending.
Nevertheless, it’s a bill that moves in
that direction, and as such was bound to raise controversy. “The
proposal is an affront to democracy,” School Boardmember Sue Peters says
in the release. Currently, all board members are elected.
“The only reason to remove elected
school board members is to forcibly impose policies that everyone knows
the public does not want,” adds Robert Cruickshank, a onetime
communications advisory to former Mayor Mike McGinn and now president of
the Northwest Progressive Institute.
Quite apart from specific policy agendas, there’s been an idea circulating in big cities around the country that mayoral control—or even state control—will solve public education’s ills. In the last two decades, roughly 20 school districts have come under some mayoral oversight, according to a 2014 report on the subject by the National School Boards Association’s Center for Public Education. It’s ironic, the report goes on to note, since a century ago, the country moved away from mayoral control of school districts due to corruption and cronyism.
Pettigrew says this:
Pettigrew mentions the persistent achievement gap between whites and students of color, which the south Seattle Democrat says is particularly prevalent in his district. “Let’s just see what happens,” he says, if we try something different.
What, throw something at the wall and see if it sticks? He STILL has not explained any connection between outcomes for students of color and mayoral control. Just rearranging the chairs will not in itself create change. And where's that all-important data?
Oddly, though, Pettigrew says he’s not familiar or particularly interested in how this idea has played out in other cities. The results are mixed. “Researchers are divided on the question of whether or not it has produced higher student achievement,” concludes the Center for Public Education report, entitled “Toward collaboration, not a coup.” “Almost all agree on one negative consequence, however. These researchers observed that when mayors take charge of public schools, the role of parents and the community, especially among minority groups, can be marginalized.”
That surprising ending?
He (Pettigrew) says he and Rep. Sharon Tomiko Santos are working on a new proposal stemming from their feeling that the Seattle School District is too big to manage effectively. Their solution: splitting it in two.
The Seattle Weekly has a good story that has a startling ending.
Quite apart from specific policy agendas, there’s been an idea circulating in big cities around the country that mayoral control—or even state control—will solve public education’s ills. In the last two decades, roughly 20 school districts have come under some mayoral oversight, according to a 2014 report on the subject by the National School Boards Association’s Center for Public Education. It’s ironic, the report goes on to note, since a century ago, the country moved away from mayoral control of school districts due to corruption and cronyism.
Pettigrew says this:
Pettigrew mentions the persistent achievement gap between whites and students of color, which the south Seattle Democrat says is particularly prevalent in his district. “Let’s just see what happens,” he says, if we try something different.
What, throw something at the wall and see if it sticks? He STILL has not explained any connection between outcomes for students of color and mayoral control. Just rearranging the chairs will not in itself create change. And where's that all-important data?
Oddly, though, Pettigrew says he’s not familiar or particularly interested in how this idea has played out in other cities. The results are mixed. “Researchers are divided on the question of whether or not it has produced higher student achievement,” concludes the Center for Public Education report, entitled “Toward collaboration, not a coup.” “Almost all agree on one negative consequence, however. These researchers observed that when mayors take charge of public schools, the role of parents and the community, especially among minority groups, can be marginalized.”
That surprising ending?
He (Pettigrew) says he and Rep. Sharon Tomiko Santos are working on a new proposal stemming from their feeling that the Seattle School District is too big to manage effectively. Their solution: splitting it in two.
Now, that’s an idea that truly seems
to come out of the blue, and it raises a million questions. What would
the boundaries be? Would it create better-off and worse-off districts?
Would they share resources?
And, perhaps most importantly, how would the public feel about that?
I'll have to ask Rep Tomiko-Santos about this idea; I have never heard her mention it. But split in two? Uh oh.
Comments
Capacity and unwinding tangled finances would be major bugaboos.
Even HQ wouldn't moan that much after they got over their ego deflation of not being able to handle the full 50K students. After all - double the HQs mean double the opportunities for bureaucrats and middle management.
The number one haters on the proposition will be Realtors. Property values will decrease in the lesser academic success district which would naturally be the South End with more first generation immigrants, more language diversity and more poverty.
For all else, #Winning!
Southie
I thought Nina Shapiro's article did a good job examining this issue, especially her citations of the research from other cities.
If you had two districts, that argument would pretty much go out the window. Not to say they wouldn't come up with other ways to duck and weave, but it would be more transparent. Plus, even if the new districts went to 5 directors each, the board districts would be much smaller and easier to win on grassroots support.
Thanks to those folks for speaking up !!
-katydid
Alyssa
Nice work.
-katydid
-NNNCr
I think what you want to imply is the northeast is wealthy I'm not sure I would agree since Thorton Creek is in that area and was lacking in many ways. When I looked at schools in the SW and central area I couldn't believe how posh many were compared to the North end schools. Not all the schools mind you, but there are some palaces in the SW.
Please stop thinking everyone in North Seattle is wealthy it's not true.
STOP
As to splitting the district - there are days I'm sure we've all wondered if that might be the only answer from a management perspective. The nitty-gritty of doing so is significantly less attractive as several have already pointed out.
When is Mr. Pettigrew up for re-election? Talk about an empty suit....
reader47
Really you need to stop with your liberal bias and "got to save the minorities" at any cost elitist attitude. I think everyone is sick of it!
With the exception of a very small pocket of excess wealth in the Highlands and UW area there's more wealthy people living south of the ship canal than north of it. This has always been so and as I remember most wealthy people in the north end children would go the private school route either Lakeside or Blanchet. I went to the north-end schools, Viewlands, oaktree, Wilson and Ingraham in the 70s and 80s. No one was wealthy and nor are the current populations of those schools, unless they are slumming it.
I disagree that building conditions don't have anything to do with education or the perception of value in the students eyes. Students know when their school is a dump they judge their worthiness sometimes based on the schools condition, just go ask a few students how their building makes them feel.
STOP
Reader 47 hit the nail on the head. Who gave Pettigrew the bill? LEV? I've heard this bill will get a hearing and I'm sure we will find the usual suspects showing-up to support this bill.
I don't recall Pettigrew knowing a lot about the charter bill he submitted while in the legislature, either.
Let's not forget that the city is looking for Highline to annex into Seattle. For some reason, I always believed the city's prek program is part of an effort to build a Harlem Children's Zone type charter school Pure conjecture on my part.
if I'm in the north or south, it just matters that I make the effort. Diversity can be very disruptive when forced on us.
I'm Robot
In Arizona, there was once a push to split to smaller districts. Since then, many of those smaller districts have reconsolidated into the larger districts. Transportation, admin costs all got to be too much for the smaller districts.
A large district in Utah recently split. The rich, white areas along the foothills did not want to pay for new schools in the poorer valley areas.
Now there is a small, wealthy district of mostly white middle to upper class Mormon kids, and the remaining large district that contains most of the FRL, ELL, and special ed population and still needs to build new schools to meet its ever increasing enrollment needs. (Most Utah schools that are not in rural areas are on track systems because of enrollment - but once they have 4 tracks running on year-round enrollment, they have to build a new school, so their enrollment issues are much worse than those in SPS.) It was a nasty battle, with much bitterness between and among various groups that still persists. I would hate to see that happen in SPS.
As for Pettigrew - typical ed deformer. Toss research to the side, rely on ideology handed to him by a campaign funder like LEV, A4Ed, Stand on Children, etc.. The reliance on ideology rather than research is why they US public education is where it is today, No Child Left Behind? Ideology behind the 4 pillars, not research. "Texas miracle" that was the basis for some of the cornerstones in NCLB? Lies and cheating. Race to the top/bottom? Market-based ideology. Even the lame 3rd grade reading/grade rentention bills are based on ideology, as the research shows that retention is not effective, particularly when used in that manner. Charter schools? More market-based ideology. Yet these same ed deform fools insist - and even legislate - that teachers/schools make "data-driven decisions". Hypocrisy much?
CT
As someone pointed out, not all low income families choose to apply for FRL. But I think it is the best indicator we have right now. I mapped out Title I schools in SPS. Title 1 funds are initially allocated to districts by census data, but then distributed to schools on district data re: free and reduced lunch status. This map clearly shows definite skewing toward the south side of Seattle http://bit.ly/sps_title_1.
The State Board of Education in Arkansas has "partnered" with the Walton Family Foundation and 4 of the 8 members of the board have direct ties to the Walton Family Foundation. These are the 4 members of the State Board of Education that voted to take over the Little Rock District. The Chair of the State Board cast the tie-braking vote. You can read more here in the Arkansas Times http://bit.ly/1zEVz2h.
Has anyone done an analysis of ties of current members of our State Board of Education to Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and other education reform foundation?
I agree with your point about the "low income" in the U District. Definitely, not all FRL eligible families apply for FRL, but it's probably a better measure of SPS student family income than per capita income. Not all families in Seattle have children and not all children in Seattle attend public school. I recall hearing that over half of the children in Magnolia and Queen Anne attend private school, but I think that statistic is rather old and may not still be accurate.
Thanks, for the link Mary. Interesting to note that Arkansas for Education reform was involved with charter school take-over.
Ahemmm...any chance DFER and McFarlane have been whispering in Pettigrew's ear?
In other news, charter schools drained funding away from schools in Pennsylvania. The answer: Turn more schools over to charter operators.
http://dianeravitch.net/2015/01/28/moodys-investor-advice-charters-draining-public-schools-budgets/
Scary times.
"...the country moved away from mayoral control of school districts due to corruption and cronyism."
If anyone even thought about splitting this district, especially along a north/south axis, they'd have to stopped,and would hope that's something we can all agree on.
Westside
HF
I don't agree with splitting the district because of the north/side connotations (whatever you believe). I also have friends in Tucson who HATE the multiple districts and the disparity of what is offered and all the little fiefdoms that leave parents out in the cold.
You got it! Those ed reformers are all about the data, until it says something they don't want to hear!
Chris S.
SPLITTING SPS = DIVIDE AND CONQUER. Period. That's it. That's all.
We do not want a two-state solution. We do not want our city divided into the North vs. the South. We are all in this together and we grab our ball and run home to our collective peril and epic failure to do right by one another and our children.
The North vs. South divide is ridiculous. I am fairly certain that the number of so-called "rich neighborhoods" in the South outnumber those in the North, and whether that's true or not, the differences are nowhere near significant enough to divide our precious resources.
I hate reading posts where South End residents slam the North End and vice versa. It's the pinnacle of ignorance and intolerance and it plays directly into the hands of politicians always looking for the latest trend to grab onto in hopes of increasing their popularity.
Don't feed this monster by harboring resentment against those you perceive to have it better or worse than yourselves.
Splitting the district is in no way and advance. It's a retreat. A giving up. A surrender, and failure.
We need to unite, embrace, support and band together with each other, North and South, and sh*t-can this terrible idea ASAP.
WSDWG
We don't need the cronyism and non-democratic BS of mayoral "partial control." We don't need the divide and conquer tactics of a split district (how much time would THAT take away from the actual running of schools -- to say nothing of the joys of staffing and paying for TWO sets of administrators).
Off to write my legislator (and yes -- it is unfortunately Ed Pettigrew).
Jan
There are thousands of north end students receiving FRL, but schools don't get additional support because the free and reduced lunch population falls below 40%. PTA support drops significantly in middle school. Care to look these students in the eyes?
Thank you for that laugh; I needed it.
Jan, I also think you should write those comments up as an op-ed and submit it to the Times. People need to hear this.
I would say reform is required at SPS for it function properly.
That's the type of ed reform I want and if it takes a new admin approach I say lets give it a try before claiming the sky is falling.
Pete S.
Just a dumb idea.
Pete, let's only give it a try if there is any reason to believe it will create positive change. Otherwise we might as well try having the kids come to school with their socks inside-out. After all, we haven't been getting the results we want with the socks right side out. Those teachers who oppose the inside-out socks idea are just protecting the status quo and afraid of trying something new.
@Pete: We don't need reform. People in JSCEE simply need to do their jobs.
How many times have we heard "I'll have to get back to you on that" from staff, who then never "get back" to anyone with anything. SOP at JSCEE.
Why demand something different or new when nobody's actually tried just doing what they are supposed to do?
This mirrors the call for "reforming" the current Board, which the Times and Ed Reformers absolutely refuse to give a fair chance to function, knee-capping them every step of the way.
The only "reform" we need is to get rid of the corruption we have. Talk about the status quo! Good God! WSDWG
from the equation. JSCFE staff hide away and most never interact with the schools. They are completely out of touch.
Reduce administration staff and distribute the remaining employees around the district. For critical resources SPS could have small satellite administration buildings in each region. Then sell the JSCFE on ebay.
La coop
Apparently the board and the super believe they are doing their jobs.
Pete S.
There are 2 schools of thought I've seen:
a)lay low, don't get noticed, appear to be playing the game
b) bluster, pontificate, pretend to be finding answers to citizens questions, look really really busy and important but never really fix anything, except perhaps your resume for the next/better job up the ladder.
I suspect neither the Board nor the Supt (whom many @ JSCEE have never actually even met) never gets to see the "real" insides of that place, and would be appalled if they did.
The answer isn't splight districts or the mayor's little powerplay drama. Its peeling back the layers of SPS's HQ - demanding people actually earn their paychecks or move on. Not that I believe for one second that quagmire is tameable - but that IS the answer to so many of the whys of SPS
reader47
I don't think enough people understand and appreciate the backbone it took to stare down the central staff Peacocks in full pride and demand the best Math for our kids, for just one example. The last time I saw the Board side with parents and the community and reject central staff recommendations was, well, let me think.....Oh. Never. WSDWG
We gotta get real about this over lord cla$$ - they have 8 or 9 or 10 or higher figure net worth. That is over $10,000,000 or $100,000,000 or $1,000,000,000 - they like being on top, they like being in charge, and they'll do anything they can get away with to keep it that way.
One of their best sets of tools is setting those below them against each other - and a very useful tool in that set is yelling "don't start that class war thing!!! LOMG!!!"
In WA. state there are appx. 2,500,000 households & about 1/2 a million have money income over $100,000 a year. For 95% of that >$100k crowd, it is in their best self interest to NOT have 2,000,000 households living desperately on the edge - unless they want to spend all their personal wealth protecting their undisclosed locations - don't venture out unless you're in a armoured convoy & have lots of reliable armed guards!
As a district & a city & a county & state & a nation we gotta stop stepping on each other, but, we gotta do that to politically neuter the over lords & their lackeys.
NotNice
"The answer isn't split districts or the mayor's little powerplay drama. It's peeling back the layers of SPS's HQ - demanding people actually earn their paychecks or move on."
Is Nyland and the rest of his management team up to the challenge?
I invite you to spend a workday with me.
Can I spend a workday with you in return?
Oh, and sign your actual name.
I'm guilty of referring to JSCEE staff when I post here when I actually mean these specific people who work in the JSCEE and are really pissing me off. I apologize.
You have to understand that when you post here to answer questions, it's quite often the only time a parent has encountered a helpful JSCEE employee.
Thanks for all the useful information you provide.
HP