“We’re children,” he said. “You guys are the adults.”
Second update: a link to the 14 students and three staffers who were killed. Open the link and look at their faces; next time, it could be your child. There is NO safe place left in this country.
From an excellent article in the New Yorker:
Tell your state and national elected officials; no more.
Most of all - do you remember high school? Consider that those students killed might have been the person another student was sweet on. What a crashing end to a first crush. What will Valentine's Day mean to their families - a new Valentine's Day Massacre? Probably.
Don't let this be your child. And most of all, every - single - time you leave your child, say "I love you."
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Updating the Parkland, Florida story
Seventeen (17 !) people dead. At least two are staff who stood between kids and the gunman. As in all the other school shootings, not a single staff person ran to save themselves.
From the New York Times:
Early Warning
From an excellent article in the New Yorker:
The gun lobby, and the Republican Party it controls, have accepted as a matter of necessity the ongoing deaths of hundreds of children as the price that they are prepared to pay for the fetishization of weapons. The claim of this lobby’s complicity in murder is not exaggerated or hysterical but, by now, quite simple and precise: when you refuse to act to stop a social catastrophe from happening, you are responsible for the consequences of the social catastrophe.Do something today. Tell your family and friends on Facebook. Stand up and be counted.
Tell your state and national elected officials; no more.
Most of all - do you remember high school? Consider that those students killed might have been the person another student was sweet on. What a crashing end to a first crush. What will Valentine's Day mean to their families - a new Valentine's Day Massacre? Probably.
Don't let this be your child. And most of all, every - single - time you leave your child, say "I love you."
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Updating the Parkland, Florida story
Seventeen (17 !) people dead. At least two are staff who stood between kids and the gunman. As in all the other school shootings, not a single staff person ran to save themselves.
From the New York Times:
A janitor appeared, he said, and began to wave. “Stop, stop!” he said, “Go over here!”Then the school chef opened a door to her office and hurried the teenagers in — first 10, then 20, then some 30 or 40 students crowded in the office. They shut the lights. And then students turned to their phones, and began the horrifying experiencing of watching a school shooting unfold at their own school — through the news apps on their phones.Kelsey Friend, a freshman at the school, appeared alongside Mr. Hogg on CNN, and grew emotional as she thanked a geography teacher who she said had saved her life.
What a student had to say:“I will never forget the actions that he took for me and for fellow students of the classroom,” she said through tears. “And if his family is watching this, please know that your son or your brother was an amazing person and I’m alive today because of him. Thank you.”
About the shooter:David Hogg stood in the Florida sun on Thursday, not far from his now shuttered school, and described the events of the day before.Mr. Hogg, 17, a lanky senior at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School and the student news director there, was in his environmental science class when a single shot rang out, echoing down the hallways.Mr. Hogg’s younger sister, 14, was also in the building. Two of her best friends were among the 17 people who died, he said.In an interview with CNN earlier on Thursday, Mr. Hogg expressed his frustration with politicians in simpler terms: “We’re children,” he said. “You guys are the adults.”
The leader of a white supremacist group said on Thursday that the suspected gunman in one of the deadliest school shootings in modern American history was a member of his group and had participated in paramilitary drills.The Governor of Florida:
Gov. Rick Scott of Florida said he would meet with state lawmakers to secure more funding for school safety and the treatment of mental illness. “If we have somebody that’s mentally ill, they can’t have access to a gun,” Mr. Scott said.What's fascinating is that these calls for mental illness help don't get follow-up with policy and change (and dollars).
Governor Scott is considered one of the most friendly-to-guns governors in the country.
Early Warning
Ben Bennight, a bail bondsman in Mississippi, said in a video posted Wednesday that he reported a suspicious comment left on his YouTube channel last fall by a user named “nikolas cruz.”“I’m going to be a professional school shooter,” the Sept. 24 comment said.Mr. Bennight took a screenshot of the comment and flagged it to YouTube, which removed the post.Mr. Bennight said he then left a voice mail message at his local F.B.I. field office alerting it to the comment.With the Parkland shooting, three of the 10 deadliest mass shootings in modern United States history have come in the last five months. Here is a graphic that records the grim toll of school shootings across the nation.
Mr. Bennight did not fault the F.B.I., he said.“We live in a country where you can’t just lock people away for saying something,” he said. “You can’t just stuff somebody in a black hole because they said something that makes you uncomfortable. I believe the F.B.I. took it seriously. I hope that they followed up.”
So painful to hear but yes, there are plenty of people with big mouths who don't kill people. (Reading about the shooter's background, though, it seems he was one of the people who would act. Almost to a person, people who knew him thought he would do this.)
Trump
Later, in his televised address, Mr. Trump said he plans to work with state and local leaders to “tackle the difficult issue of mental health.The president has blamed mental illness for previous mass shootings, even as one of his first acts as president was to repeal an Obama-era regulation that would add the names of mentally ill Americans registered with the Social Security Administration to the database used for gun purchase background checks.
And is this the time when "enough is enough?"
NRA, your days of power are numbered and I hope that any politician that continues to take money from them and not support gun control measures gets voted out of office.“At some point, we’ve got to say enough is enough,” Senator Bill Nelson of Florida said on the Senate floor. “Let’s talk about that 19-year-old carrying an AR-15. Let’s do what needs to be done, and let’s get these assault weapons off our streets. Let’s accomplish something on background checks.”Representative Ted Deutch, whose district includes Stoneman Douglas High, said in an interview that skirting the gun question by focusing on mental illness was not enough — an opinion shared openly by numerous students and parents in Parkland, an affluent suburb in Florida’s most intensely Democratic county.
Comments
Florida HS mass shooting, and Everett ACES HS near miss news probably hitting principals and teachers hard today, and in coming days.
I have your back, working toward gun law reforms, through Alliance for Gun Responsibility, and electing Dems, with goal of removing too- easy access to assault rifles and other weapons of war to troubled young people. This will help reduce suicide, as well as these massacres. High schools (and middle schools) are on the front lines of our society's dysfunctions; I am grateful to all who work there, making it better everyday, as best they can.
Best,
Brian Duncan
Fundamentally though, the President (by his own admission), and likely many Republicans, only respect money and those who make a lot of it. If you do not make enough money to send your child to a school wherein you can assure this type of carnage is unlikely then that is your tough luck and not anyone else's problem. I really do not see a way past this fundamental road block in our government 'leaders'. Sorry.
The bravery of the teachers and school personnel is breathtaking.
-Cynic
“morons I hope you're next”
Hope you are proud of yourself when you look in the mirror. You are the problem, not us.
-Cynic
It also spells out the top receivers of NRA political money. John McCain is not burnishing his legacy at the top of the list. He has taken more than $7 million in NRA money. The man may be dying but still: Shame. Shame. Shame. Florida's Marco Rubio? Ranked 6th with more than $3 mil in NRA campaign contributions. In the state where the Pulse Nightclub mass murder is still fresh and where yesterday's innocent souls were slaughtered. Shame. Shame. Shame.
EdVoter
Delridge Dad
Signed...Overreact much?
-sleeper
What can you do other then post on blogs and sign on-line petitions? Make damn sure you kid's school is secured from outside intrusion to the extent that it can me. This includes metal screens on first floor doors/windows, buzzer access to the school and ability for teachers to lock their classroom doors from the inside in the event of an active shooter situation. Each classroom, and whole school, should have updated emergency supplies for general emergency situations and in shooter situations in which students are confined to their classrooms. Update and communicate your emergency plans including where kids will be evacuated to in the event they need to be taken offsite.
Dont let your school and SPS administrators off the hook when they say that your kids saftey is there number one priority when many schools dont/cant lock all their external doors during the day. If anyone can walk into the school off the street, often unknown to school admin, your kids are not safe. This includes not letting parents into the school at the start and end of day to pick up kids without being buzzed in and signing in at the office. Yes this is inconvenient but is the price we need to pay if you really want a safe school.
The physical security measures and supplies cost money and I get that. I know at least one south end school that inquired about buzzer access and got installed by the start of following year. I know of another school that used PTA funds some upgrades/supplies. I'm not going to debate how some schools are more resourced then others but if you cant pressure SPS to fund this stuff (how about a couple hundred of us attend the next board meeting?) then I cant think of a more serious use of PTA funds or reason to raise funds within the PTA or neighborhood community to keep your neighborhood school safe. The alternative is a worse case scenario from which your school and community may never recover.
Please, please dont mention the smeasures an individual school may or may not have as this type of info should not be shared outside that school for security reasons.
Mad Dad
The military can have the guns, but private ownership shouldn't be allowed. Private citizens have shown they are unable to responsibly use firearms. There are many law abiding gun owners, but unfortunately for them, not everyone is so good. So we have to take away that privilege. The law abiding gun owners should get upset at people like Adam Lanza and Nicholas Cruz for the end of private gun possession.
Delridge Dad
Are there any other of our civil rights you'd like taken away?
"There are many law abiding gun owners, but unfortunately for them, not everyone is so good. So we have to take away that privilege"
There are many law abiding RELIGIONS, but unfortunately for them, not everyone is so good. So we have to take away that privilege
There are many law abiding PEOPLE EXERCISING FREE SPEECH, but unfortunately for them, not everyone is so good. So we have to take away that privilege
There are many law abiding PEOPLE EXERCISING THEIR RIGHT TO ASSEMBLY, but unfortunately for them, not everyone is so good. So we have to take away that privilege
Believe what you want. I'll side with the Constitution.
Civil Rights
-sleeper
If you yell fire in a crowded theater, you will be prosecuted for any injuries/deaths that result.
If you kill someone with your gun, you will be prosecuted for any injuries/deaths that result.
Bill ofrights
Sleeper
Keep your guns but understand you will be brought to your financial knees if you don't secure them. Doesn't matter if it's your kid or your neighbor who's visiting, if you don't secure your gun, you will be prosecuted.
Doesn't matter if it's accidental or on purpose; at some level, as the gun's owner, you will be held responsible.
Accountability is a good thing and if O.J.'s case taught us nothing else - if you can't get someone criminally, go after them civilly.
I read that article about the meeting in Queen Anne (fascinating!). I don't remember exactly how many people were at that meeting - hundreds, maybe? No more than a thousand, I don't think. The journalist was also struck by the fact that many appeared to be techies - but how many tech workers move here per year, for the past ten years? If you look at any random group around the city, particularly men, particularly newcomers, it'll be weird if a substantial percentage aren't tech workers, no matter the context.
The message we should be taking from that is that, yes, white supremacists aren't all college students or rednecks in trailer parks or whatever the stereotype is. But the tech workers I know are a fairly diverse and liberal bunch (and okay, I may have some in my family, as bleeding heart as they come). They get enough grief for having "invaded" Seattle and all the other negative stereotypes; please don't add "and probably a white supremacist" as well.
-Pragmatic Xennial
-Pragmatic Xennial
EEM
Not every muslim is killer-- only the radical islamists who have twisted Islam into something unrecognizable in order to satisfy their blood lust. And anyways what do muslims have to do with this situation?
Concerned Student
My kids went to an older elementary school that had the front door unlocked ALL DAY LONG and wasn't visible from the front office. The only security measure was a sign saying visitors had to sign in at the office. That's it. That was their idea of safety. Anyone could have walked in at any time and the office would have had no idea. The kindergarten classrooms were up a short flight of stairs and one door to the left. The office was the opposite way to the right. The unthinkable (actually, very thinkable in this day and age) could happen before the office had any idea anyone was in the building.
I mentioned this a few times and some parents agreed with me that we needed better security, but most wanted the doors open all day long for access and community. I asked about cameras and a buzz-in system and was told it was too much money and the school would get upgrades when it was renovated. Ummmmm, this school has been on the levy list for years but nothing has been done. My kids have come and gone. And I have to say at the end of each school year I always breathed a sigh of relief there wasn't a shooting, and I still feel this way even though my kids now go to schools with better security. The world is insane.
Mag mom
-In support
Let's make a deal.
KLM 291
KLM 291
KLM, no one needs an assault weapon but the armed forces. That’s #1.
Your last point is silly because we actually do regulate cars more than guns.
I'm only half-kidding, but seriously I liked it a lot better when the parents and concerned Seattle citizens outnumbered the trolls here. Reading the snarky remarks is tiring. If I wanted that I'd stick to Facebook and Twitter.
Thanks to Melissa and the others who post thoughtful comments—even those that don't agree—about happenings with SPS.
SolvayGirl
Man, would I love that.
It's illegal to be in the possession of a fire arm while intoxicated.
It's illegal to conceal a rifle or shotgun.
It's illegal to brandish a firearm.
All firearms sales must be registered with the exception of black powder and shotguns.
It's illegal for felons to possess firearms.
It's illegal for convicted domestic abusers to possess firearms.
It's illegal for persons with a restraining order against them to possess firearms.
It's illegal for persons who were found to mentally incompetent to EVER possess a firearm.
It's illegal for persons prescribed psychotropic drugs to possess a firearm.
It's illegal for a civilian to possess a firearm on school property.
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41.280
The blog is still up, but I have not updated it in ages—life and work got in the way and since it is a non-paying labor of love it has to take a back seat. Thanks for asking though. It will be a post-retirement task to get it back up to speed.
SolvayGirl
SolvayGirl