Friday Open Thread
Update: there is one Director Community meeting tomorrow - with Director Carr - from 8:30-10 am at Bethany Community Church with a hard stop at 10 am as the Board also has its Board retreat tomorrow from 10:30-3:00 pm at JSCEE. I would put up the agenda but it is not available. Why it isn't available is always a mystery (although here's the Board agenda for the next school board meeting). I'll lay odds there will be discussion of preschool (which staff does want to do) and bell times (which staff doesn't want to do). Good luck, Board members.
End of update.
(No, I am not officially back but I feel for Charlie.) I see a lot has been happening.
It appears that the district IS creating a taskforce on Prevention and Response to Sexual Harassment (PRSH), apply by September 26th.
The district also wants public comments on the new 21-page Superintendent's Procedure on Sexual Harassment.
I also note that there is a district narrative of the "Garfield High School Field Trip." I'm not sure I believe it is correct but that's their story and they are sticking to it. (That may change if any legal action happens against the district.)
The big smackdown from the Supreme Court over McCleary did not happen as the Supreme Court allowed the Legislature this session to get - this - done. But I can only say that I recall being much more worried about my mother when she was angry and quiet than angry and loud.
Besides getting McCleary done, it would be unwise for any legislator - or group of legislators - to believe that you can pit public education against social services. If only it would be that easy but no, the Legislature is actually going to have to do some real work - rescinding tax breaks, cutting pet programs or gasp! maybe even an income tax.
From the "With Friends Like This, Who Needs Enemies" file comes a video that I suppose is in support of Common Core. It is by turns offensive, vague and just plain useless. Apparently this marketing firm, Six One Seven Studios, did this all by itself (out of the goodness of their hearts).
From Politico:
Too many of the pro-Common Core videos were PowerPoints and talking heads,” Roberts said. “So we put out this video to help folks see the power of telling a fun but simple story with real people.” I don't believe this story is simple (although Grandpa comes off like a simpleton) or those were "real" people.
Their website says they do "innovative, engaging and authentic" work. If this is a good example of their work, they should worry.
What's on your mind?
End of update.
(No, I am not officially back but I feel for Charlie.) I see a lot has been happening.
It appears that the district IS creating a taskforce on Prevention and Response to Sexual Harassment (PRSH), apply by September 26th.
The district also wants public comments on the new 21-page Superintendent's Procedure on Sexual Harassment.
I also note that there is a district narrative of the "Garfield High School Field Trip." I'm not sure I believe it is correct but that's their story and they are sticking to it. (That may change if any legal action happens against the district.)
The big smackdown from the Supreme Court over McCleary did not happen as the Supreme Court allowed the Legislature this session to get - this - done. But I can only say that I recall being much more worried about my mother when she was angry and quiet than angry and loud.
Besides getting McCleary done, it would be unwise for any legislator - or group of legislators - to believe that you can pit public education against social services. If only it would be that easy but no, the Legislature is actually going to have to do some real work - rescinding tax breaks, cutting pet programs or gasp! maybe even an income tax.
From the "With Friends Like This, Who Needs Enemies" file comes a video that I suppose is in support of Common Core. It is by turns offensive, vague and just plain useless. Apparently this marketing firm, Six One Seven Studios, did this all by itself (out of the goodness of their hearts).
From Politico:
Too many of the pro-Common Core videos were PowerPoints and talking heads,” Roberts said. “So we put out this video to help folks see the power of telling a fun but simple story with real people.” I don't believe this story is simple (although Grandpa comes off like a simpleton) or those were "real" people.
Their website says they do "innovative, engaging and authentic" work. If this is a good example of their work, they should worry.
What's on your mind?
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The Future Will NOT be Standardized
PP
http://www.kplu.org/post/seattle-schools-convene-task-force-review-handling-sex-assault-claims
Ben
I haven't read what detractors may have said but the school district knows perfectly well the Garfield victim was raped and that their chaperoning was negligent.
Anyone can read the documents on SPS Leaks response to Kaiser Oct 28, 2013 which should be there.
Informed opinion serves the common good. We are doing this to spare other student/families and for those who came before and were silenced. Otherwise why spend precious time in our senior years in this manner?
SSAIHS
Seattle Public Schools Interim Superintendent Dr. Larry Nyland is one of a select group of superintendents nationwide invited to the White House on September 15 by the President’s Council on Fitness, Sports & Nutrition.
Nyland is one of two superintendents from Washington state and 30 nationwide who will participate in the Let’s Move! Active Schools Leadership Roundtable. The Roundtable will bring together the superintendents to discuss strategies to improve the health and well-being of our nation's youth.
Really, with all the problems Nyland running off to DC....
What aJOKE
This was not rape, read the facts.
Just two stupid kids. No one could have stopped what happened, maybe it would have not accrued on the school trip ,but it would have happened some other time and place.
Lets put our focus back on education or the lack of education going on at SPS, now that's worthy of a witch hunt.
PP
CR
-SWWS
Why does your blog post not mention the inconsistencies in the boy's reports after the incident? Why does it not mention that there was a witness who reported seeing a rape? Why does it not mention the medically confirmed genital injury to the girl?
If you want to try to be fair, then actually be fair. If you want to say that none of us know what actually happened, then don't try to make this into a hookup situation. Just say we don't know, but here are the facts, ALL of the facts.
I do agree with much of what you said regarding how SPS handled the case. And that is the real issue here: SPS has a legal (and dare I say moral) obligation to perform certain duties when a student reports a sexual assault. They did not fulfill their duties - that is the problem.
Anyway, not sure if we're on the same page but I would like to think we are...
One claims it's a space ship from another planet. Another claims it's just an airplane. The third calls it a UFO.
In reality they all could be correct or wrong. It's up to the person to convince. Same thing in this situation would a jury see it was rape..how did it turn from consensual to forced when she came to his room and consented?
One person sees a rape another doesn't for your so convinced then why don't you fund a lawyer and sue the boy you call a rapist. Why keep dragging this on and on? Let the legal experts sort this out and lets get back to education which is the only reason schools exist per the state constitution.
PP
"What was likely consensual vaginal sex" Could you share what led you to that conclusion? What particular action of this child are you interpreting as consent to intercourse?
Oh here's your explanation: "I don’t know if alcohol was involved, but I can imagine it might have been." And "Given the hook up mentalities of many kids today – often very young ones – I can certainly see how this could happen and traumatize a girl whether she agreed to it or not." I guess you haven't heard about The Myth of the Hookup Culture? Do you still believe in rainbow parties too?
Here's a good one " With the changing stories the girl told – from he entered her cabin uninvited to she entered his cabin for vaginal sex willingly – one might wonder if regret led her to craft the rape accusation. Who knows?" She never reported she'd entered his cabin for vaginal sex. Now you're just making things up.
Honestly, I cannot believe how many mature, educated seemingly reasonable women are coming out with this crap.
I hope that poor child never finds your blog post.
I won't hold my tongue when someone shares their uninformed opinion that the student probably consented, should have made better choices, etc.
Right except you're wrong. This victim, like many others (including wives - remember when they showed their consent BY MARRYING! Or perhaps use the moving donut analogy) did not consent. So you'll have to gin up some other instance, maybe someone you know, who did what you suggest.
-SWWS
The victim was clear of drugs and alcohol. The victim did not enter the assailant's cabin for vaginal sex as conjectured. There were boys and girls present in the boys cabin after curfew. Teachers allowed them to do this without monitoring their comings and goings. If the kids wanted to "hook up" they could have gone into the woods. Read the NPS investigation in the Oct. 18 2013 document. Several went out into the woods. A boy was found under a girl's bed and terrorized her. Two girls slept the whole night in the boys cabin--we don't know their story. The teachers were off in a distant location not chaperoning in the slightest. The victim went to hear the boy's problems. Grooming. He was disciplined for talking about anal sex before he assaulted her anally that night. NPS report. He had a history of having "consensual" sex in the bushes with a girl in middle school. The District provided this document. Yet the teachers didn't see fit to chaperone him or the others who were allowed to come and go as if they were college students.
SSAIHS
“As I've said before, the US Attorney has not determined that no sexual assault occured [sic], but that we do not have a case that can be successfully prosecuted in court. Colin Smith Chief Ranger Olympic National Park 360 565-3110 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 07:30:00 -0700
Parents
Get Overyourself
Moving on.
With all due respect, it would have helped your article immensely if you'd done more research beyond reading a few news articles. Before you accuse someone of crying rape, please do a little research.
To cite one example, you state that there was "what was likely consensual vaginal sex," despite the fact that the unnamed boy -- both when being interviewed by the district investigator and by the FBI investigator -- specifically stated that he hadn't had vaginal sex with the girl (Response to Kaiser Assault Report, pg 27; Kaiser Report, pg 11). You'll also note how the boy's story changes between the FBI investigation and the district investigation.
If you'd like to read the many documents assembled by the parents (such as the one I cited), you can find them on their Facebook page, Stop Sexual Assault In High School.
1) I was thinking of going to the Board retreat tomorrow to hear what will happen with bell time changes. Can I bring a sign, or anything to protest if they de-prioritize the work they've committed to?
2) At a board meeting this summer Rainier Beach HS asked for a start time variance to support their SIG grant. The money was approved, but their start time is the same 7:50 as most everyone else. Does anyone know the story?
"I don’t know and you don’t know what actually happened on the Garfield High School field trip to Olympic National Park in 2012, but we know it wasn’t good."
It's fair to call for moderation with regards to the boy. Perhaps that was your motivation behind this.
But everything else is speculation and harms more than help. We shouldn't be trying this case on any blogs.
respectfully,
reader
http://www.theonion.com/articles/tips-for-fixing-the-nations-education-system,36919/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=LinkPreview:1:Default
Is that a violation of the Open Meetings Act?
Morning session: GOVERNANCE/ANNUAL ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING
The morning agenda is focused policies pertaining to the role of the Board.
Afternoon session: DISCUSSION AND/OR ACTION ON BOARD PRIORITIES
- Review 2013-14 Governance Priorities
- Review Governance Priorities already committed for 2014-15
- Selection of Board’s 2014-15 Governance Priorities
- North-end Mom
GOVERNANCE/ANNUAL ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING
How the Board works together, resolves differences
o Board Code of Conduct/Operating Norms
How the Board and Staff work together, resolve differences
o Policies/Role of the Board
RCWs governing School Boards
Policy No. 1005, Responsibilities & Authority of the Board
Policy No. 1220, Board Officers & Duties of Board Members
Policy No. 1640, Responsibilities & Authority of the Superintendent
Policy No. 1225, Legislative Program and Advocacy
o Process/Protocols
Communications Protocol
Policy No. 1620 and Board Procedure 1620BP, Board-Superintendent Relationship
Marty wants to talk about: How to take criticism, the concept of "micromanagement", and Don Neilsen's (mistaken) belief that it's not the board's job to influence staff in initiatives before staff's formulation of same.
Staff wants to have a robust dialogue, and priorities.
Why must we keep asking for this?
There is work to be done in all areas. Yes, staff to board, but board does not get a hallpass either. The majority of them, Marti possibly excepted, have work to do too. Toward each other, toward constituents and toward staff.
veteran watcher
Last years' were:
Implementation of CCSS
Budget Sustainability and Alignment to Strategic Plan (huh? related?)
Capacity Management and Growth Boundaries
MTSS
Equitable Access Framework
PG&E Implementation and Alignment to TPEP
Staff recommends the following for this year (including one already established):
Bell times analysis
MTSS
Special Education
Budget Sustainability
Stewardship'
Capacity Management
Board is asked to pick three.
No preschool initiative?
Stewardship? Was there an explanation as to what this encompasses?
- North-end Mom
I'm also saddened to see the board taking so much heat on the Garfield "rape" issue. Why isn't the heat directed at the staff and Ron English? He is the general counsel overseeing and representing the district. What are people expecting from the board? Should the board admit full responsibility for inadequacies in chaperoning and shelling out money to the family? I don't think any of us would do better in their position.
Steamed
Good grief, that's ridiculous. Of course they have to do SpEd and CM. That's part of the job of running a district. The notion of putting non-optional things on the "pick from these" list is insulting to the board at best.
WV: Oh no "you doednt!"
- North-end Mom
For what it's worth, it does seem to be "the coming thing", but it relies so deeply on 1) well-defined, unambiguous standards, and 2) similarly well-defined exemplars of mastery criteria for those standards. I have not seen either of these put in place (although the standards in some areas are pretty solid, IMO), so I'd be leery of attempting this in any area with even a hint of subjectivity (i.e. math is probably okay.... but other than that?).
So, is this in place at your school? What do you think about it, especially in comparison with the traditional ABCDF (or E) grading scheme?
The whole premise of Standards Based Grades is ridiculous. 1) effort doesn't matter 2) class preparation doesn't matter 3) collaboration with others doesn't matter 4) how much growth you made doesn't matter. if you're behind, or ahead doesn't matter. Only where you are vs a standard. 5) Parents need to know that their kid sucks, with many different measured, including MAP, Amplify, Psych tests, and especially grades. All these measures should say "sucks" or "brilliant". We need all reported measures to agree with "suck" or "brilliant". Parents will be confused if a state test reports "below average" but a good grade is issued. (Parents are pretty dumb too and can't work that out.) 6) Students with disabilities, not "at standard" need to be punished by forfeiting their participation in after school activities due to standards based grades. Nobody should get to do sports or anything else fun - if they suck (not at standard) for any reason. 7) only test scores on content matter.
The reality is collaboration is the most important life skill, and effort is a close second. How well you demonstrated "mastery", the one way the teacher knows how to measure it - matters the least in the long run. Sure, it is still important.
The good news is that no high school would ever, EVER, do standard's based grades - because then their graduates wouldn't get into any good colleges, and that would suck for the high school. Guess what? Magic! Standards Based Grades is a non-starter for high school.
Eddie Speddie
Once again, it's another untested educational fad. I don't know who comes up with this crap.
I also wonder about the lack of notation about the whole preschool issue. Until Mirmac 1 put up the link to the New School Foundation page, I had no idea there was this kind of linkage with the City, New School and SPS. And this new
P-5 idea coming from Early Learning? Who is pushing this and why? And why does it appear some staff seem to work for the City more than the district?
I will have more to say on the pre-K plans and the vote but parents, you should be aware that there are forces moving quickly to consolidate this issue in SPS.
How is it staff can go out and grub for grants on stuff that is: not a priority, and entails encumbering district resources?
P-5 idea coming from Early Learning? Who is pushing this and why? And why does it appear some staff seem to work for the City more than the district?"
I think the effort of Stuart Sloan is to create a prek-5 program similar to S. Shore, and this isn't a bad idea. However, we're seeing the same individuals that seek to place control within Seattle's business class. I absolutely agree the city's effort is to place more and more control into the hands of Seattle's business and political establishments. No thanks.
The union wants to protect children in 4500 child care centers from felons. We can't turn our backs on children in potentially harmful hands.
It is time to vote NO on both initiatives and send the city and the union back to the table. The message must be clear: The city is to keep their hands off of our schools. Burgess and his desire to "measure" impact of Family and Ed. Levy has controlled testing policies. I'm also concerned, if the city's initiative passes, that we will see the city try and control technology purchases etc. The hands of those that can profit are close to the city's plan- particularily if we start providing online learning for preschool children. I'm not convinced that preschool children should be on computers.
the Spring 2014 Transportation report.
I think kellie posted the link a few weeks ago. Could someone re-post it?
Thanks!
Here's a link to the source.
A few things that the district training said about Standards Based Grading - all completely bogus.
1) Standards based grading fixes the achievement gap (because minorities won't suffer discrimination) and minorities will do better with Standards Based Grades as they won't be graded on cultural aberrations. That is obviously stupid. The achievement gap is exacerbated on all Standard's based measures, because they are the measures and norms of the majority. Look at any standardized testing results and you will see results that are skewed against minorities. At least with other forms of grading - teachers are free to assess whole children, and base grades all sorts of growth, and different values. Minorities, and people with any sort of difference, are screwed by Standards Based Grades. Only "standard" people benefit from Standards Based Grades.
2) Standards Based Grading fixes the dreaded "GPA" inflation. I remember people whining about grade inflation when I was in high school eons ago. Seriously. Nothing bad has happened because of "grade inflation". Colleges have a whole plethora of assessments and standardized tests available on all applicants. There is no harm in some other measures as well.
3) Standards Based Grades is the same as a workplace review system. Again ridiculous. Collaboration and persistence are the most important workplace skills. And butt-kissing is the most rewarded. If we want grading to be "like the work place", we would grade butt-kissing, collaboration, persistence... and THEN content. Besides, who really cares about workplace review methodology? Kids are still in school right? WOrkplaces FIRE people. Do we want to fire kids from school?
4) Everyone is moving to SBG. As Linh-Co and others point out. No high school would ever damage it's reputation by lowering everyone's GPA. The only reason they're doing Standards Based Grades in middle schools - is because middle school grades really don't matter. If middle school grades mattered at all, nobody would do standard's based grades.
Eddie Spedie
I am bothered by high school grades where a student can get a good grade & not know the material or fail the class when they do know the material. I think that is why we have kids in algebra who can't do fractions. I would rather have the grade reflect their mastery & some teacher comments about how well behaved & hard working they are, or not.
As a sped parent I got a little fed up with being told that my kid didn't need specially designed instruction because because he was graded on classroom compliance instead of competency.
-Also Sped
HP
Really, I think the SBG approach begs the question of the purpose of grading: it assumes a particular purpose, but it is far from clear that that assumption is justified.
HIMSmom
Standards Based Grading doesn't do better teaching to mastery.
Kids are not getting passed unless they know the material and kids aren't getting A's unless they do high quality work. There is wiggle room at the "exceeds standard" end which allows teachers to be tough on the high achievers and high ability kids. But you must pass your tests. Yes, you get to retake, not endlessly(come on!)but you will only get a 3(B) maximum posted, no above standard allowed on a retake.
it's actually more helpful in LA and SS as it pushes kids to get past that 3 or B(at standard). The requirements to do so are clearly spelled out for each assignment and students have the option to go past standard or not. As I said, the teacher has discretion on demanding more from those who can do it. For middle school it's great. Drives kids forward and allows differentiation.
In HS I suppose it needs to be more rigid, but in middle school, I'm sold.
Parental unit
Every standard has multiple sub-standards and kids can work on meeting them the same way traditional school students do. They read chapters in textbooks, lectures, quizzes, tests, research papers, and all of them has standards attached to them. Sometimes homework counts towards a standard, sometimes it is just practice. The students use traditional textbooks.
There ARE allowed retakes in SOME situations, but we saw that in the traditional, non SBG schools too.
Linh-Co-aren't you supposed to be some sort of expert in education? Just because Whitman does it that way doesn't mean EVERYONE does it that way. Honestly, if I didn't know my kid's high school did standards-based grading, I would never know it from the syllabi that I saw at the beginning of the year.
I'm sure there are people unhappy with this system, but our child is thriving and we've noticed none of the problems being talked about here (with the exception of one class, a non-core, parents complained and things were changed).
Another parentalunit
How, I wonder, are these standards laid out and applied in language arts classes? I'm not trying to be snarky, I'm really interested in this. I'm a science teacher, and I wonder how, say, my biology students would be graded on SBG. I just can't see it. Of course, with the EOC, I have the luxury of having a state-sanctioned test which claims to test competence on the state biology standards.
http://www.spokaneschools.org/Page/16308
here's syllabus for a 9th grade biology course using SBG in Minnesota, don't ya know.
https://sites.google.com/a/mpls.k12.mn.us/housenga-science/9th-grade-biology/9th-grade-biology-syllabus
As you can see there is not just one cast in concrete methodology.It's a little flexible.
Very interesting about grades being only about content, everything else is separate.
Also using the latest trend rather than averaging the whole semester. Several references to the studies showing academic growth better than any other intervention.
Food for thought.
Wilson
Josh, as a parent, these LA standards make perfect sense to me for a high school freshman: "Determine a theme or central idea of a text and analyze in detail its development over the
course of the text, including how it emerges and is shaped and refined by specific details..."
My student read The Kite Runner and Fahrenheit 451, among others, and had show she could meet the above standards. The report card showed all standards and at what level she met them. Why would this be confusing?
Another parentalunit
Whatever the case, I assume SBG works a lot better when there's a defined curriculum--clear learning targets, consistency across classes, etc. Am I wrong?
HIMSmom
I guess what I'm wondering is not about standards -- after all, as a biology teacher I design my classes to address the standards laid out by the state (and to some extent, the federal standards, where they provide opportunities for enrichment). Every teacher does that, and always has. Where the rubber hits the road is in the assignment of grades based on students meeting explicit expressions of pieces of those standards. Students must have rubrics before the work is required, else how will they know what is expected of them?
In the absence of those rubrics, this is exactly the same as regular ol' grading, as far as I can tell. After all, the labs and tests I design are intended to determine how well students are grasping the (aligned to standards) material; how is this different?
"What SBGs at least introduce into the discussion is the idea of "purifying" the grade -- taking out all the behavior modification elements (do them if you want -- but report them some other place and reward them some other way), and encouraging teachers to be less controlling in terms of the amount of time, etc. that it takes kids to reach mastery. We stop grading on whether exact hoops were jumped through on exact dates -- and start looking at whether and to what extent, over the length of the course, kids can get from point A to point Z."
-HS Parent
Perhaps the grades you give students reflect only their academic abilities as they relate to the standards that you teach in your lessons. If that is true then you are probably already grading differently than many teachers in your school.
When I sent a kid through RHS, many teachers gave more than half the grade for other things. My kid's grades reflected timeliness, organization, whether the chairs were in a straight row, cleaning the teacher's classroom, neatness, using a specific notebook/pen/computer program, having non-related books out of the backpack, artistic quality, parent signed syllabus, sitting in assigned seat, attendance, etc. So that a kid who knew the material could fail the class & a kid who didn't know the material could pass the class. That is the main difference that I have seen between the current grading system & SBG.
The other main difference I noticed is that kids don't all have to be done learning a concept on the same day. They can move on more quickly or work on it longer without penalty. The assessments are not telling you that you are a good or bad student, but whether you are ready to move to new material or whether you need to spend more time on this.
-Former RHS