Seattle Schools and Salaries
You do know there's a place to look up everyone's salary who works for SPS? You didn't; well, here it is.
Note; this is 2014-2015. The Spokesman-Review had other data including this:
Michael Tolley made $220,000 in the 2015-2016 school year.
The Superintendent, Larry Nyland, made $308,000 that year.
Note; this is 2014-2015. The Spokesman-Review had other data including this:
Michael Tolley made $220,000 in the 2015-2016 school year.
The Superintendent, Larry Nyland, made $308,000 that year.
Comments
The latest example, a really nice MS History teacher I was talking to, resignedly commenting about how his students learn his salary every year.
I wish we didn't public the rank and file info.
-NoGoodComesOfThis=
good money in teaching - do that job
tolley getting 220k - do that job - but way better than him
mw thanks as transparency is the best and you do that better than anyone.
no caps
FNH
Interesting to say the least.
Yes, I was interested and went and looked up our child's teacher's salary, and I'm sure others have as well. But I would have never done so if you hadn't posted the link.
As the public, we may have the right. But where does it stop?
I believe its valid if researchers need this information, for example, to understand the relationship between experience (thus higher salary) and underperforming or high poverty schools.
But, is it ok if I filter the list by school, and go post copies on the school bulletin board or leave them in the break room, in size 24 font? Is it ok if I make copies and hand them out at the next PTA or school board meeting? Should I take a copy along when I go to my child's conference?
By posting the link, you seem to be saying as long as its legal there is no line. Regardless of the law, I believe there is.
FNH
Doxxing? No, it's not. Others "get the respect of privacy" because they are not paid by taxpayer dollars.
2014-2015 financials
Salary: $55,238
Bonuses/Stipends: $18,038
Insurance/Benefits: $9,888
Total Compensation: $83,164
Biographical information
Experience: 9 years
Highest Degree Obtained: M (2000)
Gender: Male
Age: 57
It is public information. Not much you can do about it. Thank you to the Seattle taxpayers for supplementing my state salary. I could not make ends meet without it. It is interesting, I am 57 now, not in 2014 - 2015.
A couple of observations: When people talk about how much they make, they don't include insurance and benefits in that statement. So when the media how hates the teachers union starts braying about how much teachers make and how easy they have it because they have "summers off," make sure to do an apples to apples comparison to what you make. For those of you who can't add in 2014 - 2015, I made $73,276 as a 9th year teacher. That is pretty good until you find out that in 2002, my last year in the private sector, I made a little over $90,000 as a financial analyst for a bank. Now, please understand, I am not complaining, I know what I was getting into and I love being a teacher. I do want the taxpayers of Seattle to know (by the way I am one of those also), that I put in more than a full day (I was teaching night school at North Seattle during 2014 - 2015 plus I taught summer school) and I am sure the taxpayers a getting good value for their money.
Given the comparative ease of accessing that information then vs now, I'm not sure that's a valid comparison. I doubt you would have been fine with a billboard over I-5 with your husband's name and salary in bold lettering.
We draw lines all the time while maintaining public accountability. If I'm paying for a child's public school education, why shouldn't I have access to their unmasked test scores?
It's your blog, your billboard.
FNH
You should have access to your own child's unmasked test scores and I've said that here.
Thank you, Michael. I should have noted that a recent article in the Times said that the most basic income for Seattle is now about $75K. Meaning, just getting by and not saving or going out.
You wouldn't be able to handle Norway's transparency policy.
HP
Without transparency there is no accountability. Transparency also allows for open communication and trust.
Specifically in regards to SPS, I wish the District office would see the long term advantages of embracing and engaging with the public and acknowledge that transparency is part of their duty, obligation and responsibility.
-Mark
That said, you can search for marriage/divorce/name change records, how much someone paid for a house, run-ins with the law, etc. You can learn some fascinating stuff from public records. And based on my junk mail, companies sure look up how much I paid for my house often enough. No reason citizens should have less right to look that stuff up than predatory lending companies.
http://www.kingcounty.gov/depts/records-licensing/recorders-office/records-search.aspx
http://data.kitsapsun.com/projects/wa-school/
cloudy
I think what is important is HOW LITTLE our fantastic teachers make and HOW MUCH our incompetent Superintendents make. And when the sups come up with their poorly thought out, unsupported plans for SPED, AL administration, MTSS - who is under the onus to implement them? Teachers. And they are expected to do this on salaries that, for many, are uncomfortably close to the poverty line in Seattle.
-Parent
- Blind Mice
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