KUOW Discussing Boundaries 10 AM

SAP boundaries will be the subject of the 10am hour of KUOW (94.9 FM) Weekday program.

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mkd said…
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Mkd, gifted is a bad, dirty word in this district. District staff NEVER use that word. I have heard it uttered only a couple of times in 16 years. It's not a label used with APP a lot anyway. They used to be called "highly capable" but now we called them "advanced learners".

I have a son in both Running Start and AP. AP is considered, for a lot of subjects, a mile wide and an inch deep. It's a lot of material covered at a quick pace. My son didn't like not being able to suss out more ideas during AP US History. It was just on to the next date. BUT, he certainly knows a lot about US History. The Running Start classes are college-level (community college) and it can really depend on the instructor. Both my sons enjoyed their classes (my son currently in Running Start is taking an online class and at-school class). He says people don't act out in Running Start classes and he likes the reading material in his English 101 class.
hschinske said…
The daughter I was just posting about *is* at Nova, after half a year at Garfield (her twin sister stayed at Garfield; they're in 10th now). Never got as far as the AP courses. She actually wanted to be homeschooled, but we persuaded her to try Nova instead, and so far it's going fairly well.

My nephew (who wasn't in this district) liked Running Start classes a lot -- said there was much less BS than in high school, especially if you were in a class that was otherwise all adults paying for their own education.

I have mixed feelings about peer tutoring, but am certainly for it in cases where both sides are happy and making progress. I think it, like group work, frequently gets abused, though.

Helen Schinske
Maureen said…
Helen, I learn so much from your posts. Thank you!
hschinske said…
Aw, *blush*. Thanks, Maureen!

Helen Schinske
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hschinske said…
I don't think labels are all that bad as long as their limits are clearly understood. I've always liked this explanation in Fernette and Brock Eide's book _The Mislabeled Child_: "Labels are like lenses. Used properly, they can sharpen our vision and help us see things we might otherwise have missed. Used poorly, they can render us all but blind. Appropriate labels can help us understand and anticipate the problems a child might face, increase our sense of empathy for her struggles, and enable us to find and deliver needed help."

Helen Schinske
Renee said…
Let me tell you that not all science teachers think AP Science courses are necessarily good ones. Remember that AP classes are run by a for profit company - the College Board. The current research in science says that students learn best with processing, and depth, and asking "how and why" like a real scientist does. See this study:
http://www.harvardscience.harvard.edu/culture-society/articles/high-school-ap-courses-do-not-predict-college-success-science

I think its important to realize this - and also that some of the things that are being said about Science options might not be accurate.
mkd said…
I've been drawn so off topic, that I'm logging off. If I offended anyone, and I think I have, I'm sorry. I've concluded that the disparities between south end and north end problems are well-known in the community. People get worked up every so often, but nothing changes very much. Instead of complaining online and being drawn into arguments that have no relevance to what I was originally trying to accomplish, means that I stop writing and start volunteering. This venue is a terrific sounding board, but probably the wrong one for to advocate for a school where no one would send their kids unless force to, including the residents living near the school. Once again, I'm sorry.
mkd said…
I know I said I'd go, but I have one more shameless plug:
St. Mary's Food Bank, located at 20th and Jackson, is the second largest food bank in the area. Last year, we served close to 100,000 people, including senior citizens and families with children. With layoffs, the number of families has tripled. When I started took over the baby kitchen, hosted the first full week of each month, forty babies per month was high. Today, it is not uncommon to have 150 babies in need of diapers, food or formula. While the recession has hit all of us hard, meaning donations are down. Everything from canned goods to diapers is low these days. With the holidays approaching, perhaps some of the schools would be moved to host a food drive or two. The food bank is open to everyone, St. Mary's only provides the space. It's also a great place to volunteer. Students from Washington Middle School, for instance, volunteer for an hour on Tuesday's. That's when you'll find me there also.

St. Mary's Food Bank
611 20th Ave S
Seattle, WA 98144-2295
(206) 324-7100
hschinske said…
mkd, you have certainly not offended me, for one, and I've found your perspective enlightening and helpful.

Helen Schinske
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