Queen Anne Elementary Principal Leaves
Second Update: There will be a rally and petition signing tomorrow, Friday the 23rd, at 9:15 am at Queen Anne Elementary.
Update: a parent sent me a reply from Ms. Pritchett. I won't print it in full because I don't know if it a general parent letter but basically she stated:
- that it was Mr. Elliott's choice to go "on leave." That's a bit odd because her first letter to parents said he resigned. I could be wrong but resigning generally means leaving the place of employment. Leave is walking away for awhile while some matter gets settled.
end of update
This is quite stunning as David Elliott was a dedicated principal who left one school, Coe, to helm the start-up of Queen Anne Elementary. I know many parents are saddened and upset and want answers.
One parent told me he/she feels certain it is not a health issue as Mr. Elliott is unlikely to have started the school year only to leave so abruptly.
Also the Executive Director does not say that he is going on to another school in SPS.
I can only add that the highest number of complaints I ever hear about from readers about an executive director is about Sarah Pritchett.
Seattle Schools has lost a great principal.
Update: a parent sent me a reply from Ms. Pritchett. I won't print it in full because I don't know if it a general parent letter but basically she stated:
- that it was Mr. Elliott's choice to go "on leave." That's a bit odd because her first letter to parents said he resigned. I could be wrong but resigning generally means leaving the place of employment. Leave is walking away for awhile while some matter gets settled.
end of update
This is quite stunning as David Elliott was a dedicated principal who left one school, Coe, to helm the start-up of Queen Anne Elementary. I know many parents are saddened and upset and want answers.
One parent told me he/she feels certain it is not a health issue as Mr. Elliott is unlikely to have started the school year only to leave so abruptly.
Also the Executive Director does not say that he is going on to another school in SPS.
I can only add that the highest number of complaints I ever hear about from readers about an executive director is about Sarah Pritchett.
Seattle Schools has lost a great principal.
Dear Queen Anne families and staff,
The purpose of this letter is to inform you Queen Anne Principal David Elliott has given notice that he intends to take leave from his principal position and will be resigning at the end of his contract.
Amy McCue Jessee will be serving as interim principal to support the Queen Anne Elementary students, staff and families, effective Thursday, October 22. Ms. McCue Jessee is currently the assistant principal at Coe Elementary School, and is a former principal of Meridian Park Elementary in the Shoreline School District. Prior to that position, she served as an Assistant Principal and a Program Manager for the Shoreline School District’s Early Childhood Special Education Preschool Program. She also served as a Program Manager for an elementary-level special education program for students with emotional/behavioral needs within the Shoreline School District. Her background includes areas of focus on instructional leadership, implementing the school-wide positive behavioral system (PBIS) and offering school-wide support of diverse students in need of interventions and/or enrichment. Amy earned her Bachelor of Arts from the University of Notre Dame in 1992, as well as two Masters degrees from the University of Washington – a Master’s in Education and in Social Work. She received her Principal and Program Administration certification from the Danforth Program at UW in 2004. She is the proud parent of two elementary aged daughters who attend Montlake Elementary School in Seattle.
We understand that a sudden change is school leadership may cause students to have questions about what is happening. Here are some tips for talking with your student at home if they have questions:
I want to thank the Queen Anne staff and community for continuing to ensure strong teaching and learning. Queen Anne is a great community, and I know that our caring, supportive circle of parents and staff will be able to help our students remain focused on all the positive aspects that make Queen Anne an amazing learning environment.
- Remain calm and reassuring. Parents often set the tone and students take their cues from parents and adults.
- Be a good listener and observer. Notice when students have questions and seem to want to talk.
- Do not share speculative information or rumors, as these can cause confusion, frustration and anxiety.
- Encourage your student to not put too much stake in speculation and rumors shared at school, as, again, they can cause confusion, frustration and anxiety.
- Answer questions factually. If you don’t know an answer, simply be honest and say so.
We’d like to thank David for his years of service to Queen Anne Elementary and the community. He is a caring educator and we wish him a successful future.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Sincerely,
Sarah Pritchett
Executive Director
Central Region
sjpritchett@seattleschools.org
Comments
WTF
- dps
Momof2
What one parent "feels" may be completely irrelevant.
I do know that health is often impacted by working conditions. Lousy working conditions contribute to rising blood pressure and erratic sleep patterns as well as more serious problems. No idea if this is relevant to this situation. Sometimes immediate resignations can be the result of newly found serious health problems.
I do hope that Mr. Elliott's health recovers. Remember his health is his business not ours.
-- Dan Dempsey
- B
This is really messed up and political situation, taking a "star" principal down because he will not "kneel" tot he district handlers.
Expect more from QAE and come join us.
Time for a revolution.
Take back our schools.
time is right
Fight for a great principal.
DistictWatcher
P.S. The executive director in that fiasco, longtimers will remember Bree Deausault (sp?) lef the district shortly afterward. Double win.
-sleeper
"We’d like to thank David for his years of service to Queen Anne Elementary and the community. He is a caring educator and we wish him a successful future.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Sincerely,
Sarah Pritchett"
So ... perhaps it is time for a great many parents to ask questions to a lot of people involved in administrative decision-making and especially school directors.
Is this yet another example of the need for a complete overhaul of Top-Down edits from highly paid bureaucrats that add nothing to maximizing the educational opportunity of each child in the SPS? Is this a fundamental part of the Strategic Plan? Is this Board Policy?
Is this the type of stability voters desire?
-- Dan Dempsey
Mag mom
Again, why do we need Ed Directors? Who are they helping? I know there is one Ed Director that is really good, but the others not so much.
NE
Liz H.
We were worried about McClure but I hear that is a school that is doing better but is this Pritchett woman the same woman that ran that school.
I heard quite a bit but I was not sure if it was gossip or just a bad story repeated and magnified over time.
What are ED Directors? Former Principals who they can't fire and so they promote them with hopes they will leave.
Did this not happen at another school in the SE where a AP left immediately and a Prinicpal quit with a month to go before school ended.
I am worried that we made a wrong choice and should have moved East.
- Good to Know
Not to say individual schools are not good (they can be but this is in spite of SPS not because of). There is no certainty or stability here and mismanagement everywhere you look. Would love to be in a school district that did not need a blog devoted to it (don't get me wrong, this blog is great and necessary to highlight dysfunction and mobilize parents - I just wish it wasn't necessary!).
Frustrated
Dear Queen Anne:
Fight back, NOW and LOUDLY
Make a HUGE stink
Contact TV news, contact NPR, contact The Stranger and PI and Seattle Times
IF your community stands united, you can 'pull an Ingraham'. Bring him back, or, at least choose an interim while he recuperates.
I don't live in your hood, but, I remember watching Mr. Elliot testify before the Board during growth boundaries. He was an excellent speaker. I remember thinking at the time 3 things:
he is smart, very dedicated and focused,
he is ballsy,
and
he will pay for this
Looks to me like they got him. He came to speak for you when you needed help; repay that kindness and speak for him.
Coe families, join the fight. Your PTA should reach out to QAE and find out where to point your communications of support.
And yes, lay off all EDs and save the teachers. The district function without EDs just fine before Enfield implemented them a few years ago. Too many generals, not enough soldiers.
PRO ELLIOT
From the Principal
I am writing this article with some sad news for Coe Elementary. Amy Jessee and I were notified yesterday that the district will place Amy at Queen Anne Elementary as interim principal starting immediately—tomorrow, Thursday, October 22nd. This was not a position that Amy sought, yet she is a district team player and is willing to go and do an outstanding job where she is directed. Queen Anne Elementary will be so fortunate to have her.
This is an interim principal position and we were assured it will be posted in the near future. It is our hope that Amy could return to Coe once Queen Anne Elementary finds a new principal, yet realistically we know this could take many months.
Who will help lead Coe in Amy’s absence, you wonder? At this time an assistant principal has not been determined, but you can be sure I will be pressing the district to locate a substitute in the very near future.
Virginia
From the Assistant Principal
It is with a heavy heart that I write this note of thanks/“goodbye for now" message to all of you. I have loved every minute of my time spent at Coe both learning from and learning with all of you. I am not sure where to begin so a simple "thank you" will have to suffice for now. In all honesty, I am flooded with numerous emotions as I leave this wonderful community. 540 of these emotions center around each and every one of the students I see daily. Oh, I will miss them – their spirit, their energy, their diverse talents, and spark for learning.
Then, double that number to almost 1000 and this represents you - the incredible parents/family members of our wonderful students. I have witnessed your dedication in so many ways – volunteering, working in classrooms, attending fun Coe events, and supporting our teachers in every way. There are still more reasons for my sadness...
50 of them center around having to leave our incredibly talented Coe teachers and staff. I feel so privileged to have worked side by side with such an impressive, top-notch, professional team (and did I mention how fun they are?). The Coe staff does indeed rock beyond all measures. Lastly, I have 1 more reason – my boss, Virginia. It takes an amazing leader to lead an amazing school and Coe has one. I am grateful that she hired me and grateful for her leadership at Coe. Again, thank you to all of you for all that you do. I think the world of you and will miss you. So, goodbye for now. Be safe, be kind, be Coe. I’ll be thinking of you all.
Warmest regards,
Amy
Community member
Coe is also impacted. Forcing transfers, never a good idea.
What a mess.
Second, The letters from the Coe leaders are interesting in that neither references Elliott who used to work there. Probably a little CYA there.
Some of you may not have noticed but I updated the addresses for senior staff. See that one, Mike Starosky? He's the Chief of Schools who oversees the Ex Dirs. It's
mpstarosky@seattleschools.org
Write to HIM.
PRO ELLIOT is right: Make a stink. Pull an Ingraham. Fund the teachers, not the EDs. Mr Starosky can supervise the Principals himself.
-ITK
At the time, I thought he shift to regional supervision made sense (if only because the Directors didn't have to drive to every corner of the city.) But it seems like it has had some problematic consequences.
If nice guy Mike can't reign in his direct reports, what purpose does he serve? (Not to be mean, and remember, I'm the one who wants him to take over the whole thing himself!)
QAE and Coe parents, connect and mobilize you now have the power of two school communities to push back. You may not get your leaders back, but you may be able to force the district to address the issues w/ your ED.
Practically Speaking
" I would highly doubt he was fired for opinions or speaking out, but likely for doing something his own way that was in conflict with district policy. "
Could be .... but .... Kind of hilarious really, the part in conflict with district policy. So how often is district policy enforced or for that matter even noticed?
Thanks for the amusing thought.
-- Dan Dempsey
-Teacher's Spouse
Dan, I agree that the district is pretty random in enforcing policy.
Practically Speaking
Many schools do not have fully functioning BLTs, I would muster that most do not. Meetings should be publicly posted and each school should have by-laws that are reviewed and updated annually and human resources should be ensuring this work is happening. Membership should be including representatives from the community and the student parents/guardians that are not appointed and are not posted from the PTA.
I see that there are probably issues due to enforcement of the board policies that created this school management structure, that HR has not been enforcing or hiring school leaders in support of these policies, and that lack of oversight and support by the executive directors is making the situation worse.
Our school-based management structure is actually more progressive than many but it is not being employed. I think that many other families who have been involved in cooperative preschools would understand what the potential is.
I think we need to start showing up and forcing BLTs to not use a decision-matrix established by the district but to really take on a true leadership role and help shift the priorities to ensure that basic learning tenets are being adhered to. The real challenge will be in trying to get the fiscal budget for the district to support the needed improvements at each school -- be they structural or staffing.
Your thoughts?
Reader
Budgets are business, but good teaching is an Art, a Science, and, above all, a Profession, which should always be priority number one in SPS. If we start there, the right decisions will be made, in support of teachers, students, principals and families. If we start from the vantage point that low test scores - and the dreadful avoidance thereof - must drive everything, then we'll continue to spin our wheels and sacrifice more good people to that cause.
But this incident shines a spotlight on a bigger question: What do ED's do all day, and do we even need them?
It's a question that's long overdue and the onus is on the district and SI, not the Board, to justify their existence in the management structure, as it was the SI's office that created this org chart under MGJ.
WSDWG
he is ballsy,"
SSD administration will crush you ASAP if you're that combination and working for the district.
We might all remember the most recent Pritchard debacle - when she and her office categorically refused to speak to parents over staff cut concerns. She singlehandedly quadrupled the community's dissatisfaction with SPS.
Compare with Elliott who earns nothing but plaudits from the people who really count here: students, their parents, the community at large and his school staff.
Someone at QA Elementary needs to take this matter to a head quickly. Get this on the front page of the Times. Get this on the public radio stations Get this onto TV. Most of all, get Elliott back in school where he belongs and get Pritchard out of the SPS system where she won't be doing more damage to our schools.
DistrictWatcher
Again, the Board can say - to the Superintendent - that having parents are part of the decision-making at schools invites more family engagement. How can you argue against enforcement of board policies and more family engagement?
She is also aware that schools in her jurisdiction are out of compliance with board BLT policies -- including the absence of by-laws for years -- and still she retains her position.
I'm not a fan.
NE Teacher
The casualties are not just QAE. TOPS lost a strong principal after last year for many of the same Education Director dissonance reasons report parents on Cap Hill. There are rumbles that Whitworth is politically working to do it to another school with a strong principal who has no time for worthless downtown directives. And now Elliott? Hasn't he won awards for his skills? The guy is flat out great and this move cannot pass the straight face test. I add my voice to the others: Rebel and do so loudly and pointedly. The problem is the Education Director(s) not these building leaders. What a load.
Seen it
Jonny Applesauce
There sure is a lot to "tiff" about with downtown.
It is way past time to restructure SPS into a site-based organization. This will allow many downtown bureaucrats to pursue other competitive employment opportunities, where their skills are in demand. There must be lots of those available as their salaries were consistently raised ... I guess to prevent them from going elsewhere.
-- Dan Dempsey
QAE if you have ties to McClure from the Pritchett days, get together, discuss, get down to JSCEE pronto and get in the face of Nyland. He didn't promote her. He has everything to lose here and nothing to gain by defending this powerplay.
No disrespect to the Interim who was yanked from her own community, but without Elliott QAE will lose its tech focus faster than a rabbit on the run. There will be no knowledge and no willpower to deviate from SPS Bland. Parents will vote with their feet. The other local schools will be overpopulated with families fleeing a school they loved. I've watched this play out before. Downtown politics and a switcheroo of principals easily can destroy a school community and trigger enrollment havoc in nearby schools in less than two academic years.
Aged out
She ia barely competent
Central
Seattle and Queen Anne Elementary want David Elliot reinstated as principal of our school. We believe this is an involuntary "resignation", and we do not accept it. We will demand a meeting with the District to discuss how David Elliot can be reinstated. We will continue to advocate for David Elliott until he is reinstated as principal.
David Elliott is the heart and soul of our school community. He is the reason we parents send our children here, the reason why children love to study here, and the reason why the teachers love to teach here. David Elliott is a visionary educator. David Elliott is loved by our students, who sense intuitively that he is deeply invested in their personal futures. And David Elliott is inspiring and creative to those he brings into our educational community to share in these values.
The District faces many problems, and has made many recent missteps. We know we are not alone in Seattle in demanding positive change from the District and from public education in general. A good start would be to keep the quality leaders and innovators we already have. The District should be asking David Elliott how to copy the successes of Queen Anne Elementary for the benefit of the entire District, instead of removing him for reasons we cannot believe would possibly be justified.
Over 200 QAE parents met today in various meeting to work to get David back - we're not going to rest for our school, and we stand ready to help other schools too.
As parents and families - we've all experience disrespect and dysfunction from the District, and we know QAE has been "lucky" to have David in our corner.
In regards to Sara Pritchard, she is beyond not competent that it is mind boggling. She comes across as condescending and small minded. How could she have been put in her position, we will never know. Hate to say this but I miss Nancy Coogin.
She ia barely competent
-Sorry
Get rid of the damn directors.
It is highly unlikely that he left due to health reasons, or a better job, or let go because of something he did. There is no way in the first two instances that he would have left without saying goodbye and talking to the students and parents about it. As far as being let go for "something he did" we believe if it was that egregious he would be arrested! The district has a reputation for these kind of terrible decisions. Most likely he did not "toe the party line" and SPS wants their principals to follow their "rules" and submit to their authority. This was an unjust firing, plain and simple.
-Mad Parent
confused at stevens
"No matter how much the community adores David Elliott, I am surprised so many are willing to fight for his reinstatement without knowing the reason for termination. If he is not willing to make a public statement about it, there may be something that he prefers to keep private. A little more information is needed."
Kate
Actually, dismissing any of them is an over the top punishment, especially when THIS principal/evaluator is a superb leader who knows his staff, student and families, and has built a thriving, engaged learning community. Oh, I know. Take away the leader, leave the staff to scramble to do their best, and then make way for a traditional school in the overcrowded QA catchment area. Win-win for the district, lose-lose for the students and community. Same old , same old.
This situation need to be scrutinized as does Ms. Pritchett's behavior. Where can I sign up to provide specific examples of David Elliott's unparalleled professionalism?
Sped staffer
To suggest that silence somehow discredits the guy is vicious, and whoever said that should be ashamed.
P.s. I know nothing about the case, but something about the world. Good grief.
https://www.change.org/p/seattle-public-schools-larry-nyland-superintendant-seattle-wants-david-elliott-back?recruiter=61325194&utm_campaign=signature_receipt&utm_medium=email&utm_source=share_petition
That means he was fired?
This seems to be an opportunity to attack the former McClure principal. She has her detractors in QA for sure, including a parent who hurled racial slurs at her in the McClure office on one occasion. But from students I know who were at McClure during her tenure there, she was an excellent principal-fair(very strict) and personable, knew the kids names, etc. She kept the kids safe and after Sandy Hook she was right there to increase security and keep the kids and the staff focused and calm.
There were parents who didn't like her. I felt there was some racial bias against her. She knew well the ways of northend white folk having attended Ballard High, and even in these post-racial times, she seemed to irritate the QA sensibility.
I'm a person who takes things as presented and update my opinion as facts are revealed. The words "take leave" and "resign" indicate this was Mr. Elliott's decision, for reason unknown at this time.
All the uproar is without merit, I feel. I am particularly surprised at Ms. Podlodowski rushing to attack the district administration when I presume she has no more information than anyone else. I know she's an advocate for transparency within SPS, but Mr. Elliott chooses not to speak and the district cannot speak, so we're all stuck with what we have for now.
When Martin Floe was fired and rehired, there was no pretense of him taking leave and resigning; he was fired and the district said as much. I think we should focus on keeping the good work continuing at QAE. If the school is dependent on one human being alone for it's success, that is a problem.
Trader Joe
"Why am I being asked to resign or be terminated?
I did not finish my teacher evaluations for last school year. Late in the school year I communicated to my Supervisor, Sarah Pritchett, that my evaluations would be delayed and shared the reasons why. No completion date was determined. On Monday, October 12, I was called to the John Stanford Center for Educational Excellence and asked by Assistant Superintendent Michael Tolley if I had completed my evaluations. I indicated that I was still working on them. On Friday, October 16, I was notified that I would be terminated or could resign, and would have 15 minutes to make the decision. After contacting an attorney, I was given more time to decide and that is where we are today.
I made a serious mistake by not completing these and I feel a tremendous responsibility for allowing this to happen. After serving as a Principal for 15 years, in good standing, I am so deeply saddened for my staff, students, and parents, that the Seattle Public School district finds severing employment the only course of action."
Link to full letter:
http://us1.campaign-archive1.com/?u=5a44499d9ee01280e0efca4e1&id=30437016e9
QAE Dad above knows far more about the QAE situation than I do (I only know what I read here), but I do know the school district. If you give the school district the benefit of the doubt (as you seem to be) than prepare yourself to be continually disappointed.
The district has burned so many parents, and completely destroyed any goodwill, that they better be specific about their actions - and bring an abundance of proof - if they expect anyone to believe them. Since the district is unable to communicate without obfuscation, this will be impossible for them to do.
If the situation is what QAE Dad lays out above, it is obvious the district was looking for a reason to get rid of this principal. This amount of disruption to kids and family should not happen unless there is neglect or potential danger to children. It sounds like this principal may have been fired for neglecting paperwork.
-fritter
There are no perfect people. The system is set up to make sure you make a mistake eventually so they have something on you if you ever question them or otherwise make trouble for them. It's like a cop following somebody they want to harrass -- if they follow you long enough eventually you'll make a lane change that's subjectively too fast or not come to an absolutely complete stop and you'll get a ticket.
Elliott wasn't the kind of person who just sat there silently and went along with the district's BS. They hate people like that and now they've picked off another.
They don't care about having genuinely talented, good people in charge. In fact, they are threatened by it and hate it when somebody better than they are at their job questions incompetence. Maybe that's not unique to SSD, but they seem to excel at it. It's a daily exercise in not seeing the forest for the trees.
Anonymous said...
Hi all,
I am a former student of David Elliott at Coe and of Sarah Pritchett at McClure. I just want to say that both were outstanding adults in my life. I don't think that is it fair to judge Mrs. Pritchett solely on this occasion. There has to be some incident for this to have happened. Unfair or not, both Mr. Elliott and Mrs. Pritchett were superb educators in my life. It seems unfair to me that commenters in this blog are attacking Mrs. Pritchett without actually having experience with her.
In speaking to the adults who are downgrading the SPS system, I really would advise you to put a little trust in it. I graduated from Ballard and am now at on of the top universities in the country. I find myself to be as prepared if not more prepared for college than my peers here at school. Many of my high school classmates have also gone on to great colleges and universities. You can continue to judge SPS on "test scores" or some other sort of rating system, but in my experience SPS did me very well.
I hope that this is some mistake and Mr. Elliot is reinstated. David was one of the key adults in my life at Coe Elementary. He has done amazing things for the Coe and QAE community. I hope he can continue to impact the QA community in a positive way
If this is the end of Principal David Elliot, I would just like to say thank you for the years of support that you have shown to me. Although I am a couple years older and a couple feet taller I am sure that you will still remember by name if we ran into each other on the street. You might even still remember my birthday.
"Hi all,
I am a former student of David Elliott at Coe and of Sarah Pritchett at McClure. I just want to say that both were outstanding adults in my life. I don't think that is it fair to judge Mrs. Pritchett solely on this occasion. There has to be some incident for this to have happened. Unfair or not, both Mr. Elliott and Mrs. Pritchett were superb educators in my life. It seems unfair to me that commenters in this blog are attacking Mrs. Pritchett without actually having experience with her.
In speaking to the adults who are downgrading the SPS system, I really would advise you to put a little trust in it. I graduated from Ballard and am now at on of the top universities in the country. I find myself to be as prepared if not more prepared for college than my peers here at school. Many of my high school classmates have also gone on to great colleges and universities. You can continue to judge SPS on "test scores" or some other sort of rating system, but in my experience SPS did me very well.
I hope that this is some mistake and Mr. Elliot is reinstated. David was one of the key adults in my life at Coe Elementary. He has done amazing things for the Coe and QAE community. I hope he can continue to impact the QA community in a positive way
If this is the end of Principal David Elliot, I would just like to say thank you for the years of support that you have shown to me. Although I am a couple years older and a couple feet taller I am sure that you will still remember by name if we ran into each other on the street. You might even still remember my birthday."
What a great young person. We could all learn from this.
Geo
I can't even fathom this sentence. Do we live in "post-racial times?" You'd have to define that period for me but frankly, it appears we are very racial divided in many ways. I also don't think painting one group of people "northend white folk" as having "ways" particularly helps the conversation.
To the young person who wrote in, thank you. We are actually not criticizing the district as a whole, our criticism is with central administration. I,too, think that we have some pretty good schools in our district.
As for Mr. Elliott's letter, a bit baffling and there is certainly subtext.
1)Why didn't he get those teacher evaluations done during the summer?
2)Why wasn't he given a timeline (or why didn't he ask for one)?
3) His actions seem a bit passive-aggressive as he had to have known this was going to be an issue. Maybe he wanted to push the envelope and, when he did, Tolley decided to nip it in the bud and really bring down the hammer. (Don't want those principals getting away with anything.)
So what was the real issue? Mr. Elliott is an experienced administrator so I'm sure he's done his share of evaluations. Does he not like this system? Or is it just the tip of things that he wished were different and he pushed back?
I suspect we'll never know but I think like with Floe, the district wanted to send a message to other principals that even if you do a good job and are well-liked, you need to follow all the rules that come from central adm. Or else it's hammer time.
But I do think, unless he was given a specific deadline that he blew off, then this was a rather extreme response by SPS Admin. Yes, I do think he's been made into a sacrificial example of what SPS Admin expects from principals. People I know who have worked with him tell me he's not one to lie down and accept the "company line" willingly.
Whatever the reasons, hardly surprising tht it was poorly handled by SPS. Does anyone at JSCEE have clue about the real world? ack and double ack!
reader47
Maybe you missed the the last 7 years of people in the news talking about our society being post-racial since the election of an African American as president(sarcasm).
It looks like at least one student who actually knows Sarah finds all the negative comments to be contrary to their experience.
I think the personal attacks and mean-spirited attitude reflected in this thread detract from the credibility of the blog as a whole.
As far as Mr. Elliot, it sounds like he missed the deadline to make up his work and received an E on his report card(sarcasm).
Trader Joe
First of all, since when is a "very strict" principal a "fair" one? These are very different things. In fact, I would say if Sarah is "very strict" then she is probably not "fair" and perhaps she held David to an unreasonable standard.
Also, suggesting our criticism of Sarah is influenced by racism is jumping to conclusions, and a very large leap indeed. I doubt that many QAE parents know the race/ethnicity of Sarah Pritchett-I know I sure don't.
-Mad Parent
Capitol
Facts be Damned
Maybe he is making a point and thought this one was worth losing his job over. If that's the case, kudos to him. That's how you stand for something you believe in.
QA Parent
maze runner
No... it's not cut and dry.
You don't do your job perfectly... nobody does. So whoever your supervisor is makes an arbitrary decision about where the line is you have to cross to be fired. If they like you personally, that line is pretty far away. If they don't, it's back there.
And let's call this episode Floe II, shall we?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"Maybe he is making a point and thought this one was worth losing his job over. If that's the case, kudos to him. That's how you stand for something you believe in"
I cannot believe that Mr. Elliott was towing the line to become a martyr for enduring the bureaucracies involved with being a Seattle school principal. He signed on for that long ago and it just isn't his style. He was late on the deadline and they used it to show him the door because of past run ins he has had with SPS authority. This is an unfortunate case where they used something small to unseat a powerful voice.
Floe Too
So can we fire the entire administration of SPS? Because they REALLY don't do their jobs.
-Mad Parent
It seems not difficult to prove retaliatory action by the district. One look at the failures of SPED managers to file paperwork that is federally mandated, compared to the number of managers canned for such practice, over years, should do the trick. Maybe we should tally how many principals have failed to file state-mandated CSIPs on time but haven't been fired. Maybe we should find out how many principals have violated student and family federal privacy laws but haven't been fired. Maybe we should investigate how the Garfield principal had a Title IX federal investigation breathing down his neck or more than one 'favor' done for athletes that caused city scandal, but wasn't fired. Maybe we should note that Floe was almost drummed out on the same type of issue but wasn't fired. Readers can add their own examples. A good lawyer is going to have a field day.
Floe Too
X-McC
I'm sorry to guess here but it is happening at my school, it happened at Lowell at Lincoln and it is happening elsewhere. Getting rid of senior people may be for money or to get new teachers (not necessarily young) who are willing to tow the line without expressing independence in any way. I see it at my school. I've been told about it at others. Many of us have children whose parents are teachers and we talk. Dave is over sixty I believe. I think we have an administration that is digging in behind the walls of their fortress making the big bucks and looking down with scorn at the rest of us. I really do.
And Nyland? He's back from retirement. He of all people should know better. But he's making the big bucks now as well. We are in a bad way in this city.
It is curious to me that Dave didn't finish evaluations which he admitted. Maybe there's just too much paperwor for all of us now. And maybe he preferred to be a hands-on principal instead of a paper shuffler. I hope the district gets kicked in its over-paid fat arse.
Any body know ?
Let me know,
Thanks
Or maybe their sending a message that deadlines aren't always the best way to judge the performance of people.
You and the rest of QAE need to read this 2011 history. The story will sound so familiar. Here is what happened after this story: Floe is still here. The ed director left shortly thereafter and not a loss. Now runs charter organizations out of an office down the street from JSIS. It was the beginning of the end of Enfield as Supe, too. She now works as the Shoreline supe.
Elliott needs to find out Floe's legal strategist and talk to Floe. Some blogger should pass this advice on to him.
http://www.seattletimes.com/education/firing-of-ingraham-principal-draws-fire/
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/backers-of-ousted-ingraham-principal-launch-petition-drive-to-win-job-back/
http://www.seattletimes.com/education/enfield-listening-to-ingraham-outcry/
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/enfield-reverses-decision-to-fire-ingraham-high-principal/
Floe Too
I just read all about it. Looks like at Ingraham Martin Floe's termination was based on performance scores of students in Elliot's case it was that he was at odds with the performance grading system of teachers and failed the deadline. Neither just reasons in my eyes as a QAE parent.
We can only rally as parents to do what the Ingraham parents did and go all out by showing up at the SPS meeting and staging rallies at the John Stanford Center.
We can get David Elliott back!!
Let's do it!
Thanks
I talked to Mr King (principal of Lowell at the time and the cause of the mass exodus), and he told me that he wanted all the classes at each grade level doing the exact same thing at the exact same time every day. I told him that sounded horrible and that I didn't want my child to go to school at McDonalds.
The district has been moving towards this type of factory education for years and it's sad. I am sorry for the teachers (I want them to be able to be creative and enjoy their jobs), and I feel sorry for the kids who have to be in this environment. We are trying to factory farm children.
-rugelach
Frankly -- that would be WAY more than what appears to have happened when Mr. Nyland blew past his obligation to get board approval for a contract in excess of $500,000; way more than has appeared to happen for any number of this like missing CSIP reports, late or missing information on Native American ed grants, etc.
This District needs to start valuing good principals MORE -- not less. Mr. Floe's continued success at Ingraham after the shameful attempt to can him years ago is Exhibit A. The sorry spectacle of weak leadership that the District continues to countenance in school after school is, unfortunately, Exhibit B through whatever.
Susan Enfield had the smarts to reverse course the LAST time an ED went so wildly off course. Here is hoping that Mr. Nyland has the smarts to do the same.
The students, teachers and PTSA of Ingraham High School
Earlier this year, Ingraham High School became the epicenter of a powerful outcry against the sudden dismissal of beloved principal Martin Floe. “When asked for reasons, we were told that it was a personnel matter,” says Ingraham High School PTSA president Cindy Nevins, but the firing was widely reported to be related to concerns over school performance and test scores. So Nevins, along with the teachers, students and parents of Ingraham, came together to take action, gathering hundreds of signatures and holding a rally calling for his reinstatement. “We decided that even if it was futile, we wanted to try to get the superintendent to change her mind,” says Rosemary Daszkiewicz, a Queen Anne resident with two children at Ingraham. When Seattle Public Schools interim superintendent Susan Enfield reversed her decision a week later, the credit went straight to the students. “They felt it was their victory, which was wonderful to see,” says Daszkiewicz. “For the students, it was an incredible lesson to see what happens when you organize and play by the rules. You could see the future of the United States in our student body.” C.L.
But truthfully, I've taken a new look at my own school. Teachers are leaving early. They aren't creating and prepping for great teaching. There isn't the creativity and collaboration I was a part of at one time. Given what I see now, I have finally come to the conclusion that teachers are now paid pretty much what they are worth. Maybe even a little too much. Do I want to be saying this? Could it be the lack of support that is creating this situation? No and probably. But it is the situation. So, if we are factory workers (see above) or teaching has become assembly line work, then we really are well paid.
Perhaps teachers don't want to be passionate or creative anymore. With a few exceptions, the newest in my building aren't interested in working beyond hours or putting together grade-level exchanges. It's good pay for time-clocked employees. That's pretty much what the future holds if things don't change. Dave is a principal who knows good teaching. He knows what is best for his school. Not all principals are equal. Nobody knows better than parents if he's motivating his teachers to be great, creative and energetic. If he's giving kids the kind of education his parents want, what more is there to say? If his parents are unhappy, they won't fight for him. But they are fighting for him. Enough said.
We also had Larry Nyland threatening teachers with an injunction.
To me, it appears we have had an unusual amount of protests. Let's just name a few: Nathan Hale protests, SEA contract protests, protests to disallow the district from stuffing 28-30 students into a class, and now we see protests to retain David Elliott.
As well, I don't ever recall seeing the need to disrupt enormous amounts of classrooms in Oct.
Teacher
-tinfoil hat
Capacity of QAE is 375. Current enrollment is 428.
Tenacious, persistent and prescient: The bloggers behind one of Seattle’s feistiest public-interest websites (saveseattleschools.blogspot.com) have been called that, and more.
Former Queen Anne Parent
North Ender
I continue to believe this is beyond not finishing required work.
But I think like the Martin Floe episode, this could backfire badly. Rep Reuven Carlyle either had or has a child at the school. There are other heavy hitters involved as well.
And although Mr. Elliott did issue a message, it doesn't say much about what he wants. DOES he want to come back? We should consider that he may not want to continue on in this district. If it's exhausting for parents and teachers, imagine what it is for principals.
The Floe incident started the slow exit of Susan Enfield. I think that as senior staff try to tighten their grip on the schools, they may not feeling the shaking that is starting to come from this house of cards.
If you thought the district did the right thing in firing the choir teacher at Garfield for not following the rules -- even though colleagues, students, parents, alumni, community members, and other professionals all pleaded passionately for her to receive appropriate consequences but remain in SPS because they all knew first hand the immense positive impact she has had, an impact that far outweighs the rule breaking that she owned up to and made amends for, and the devastation that would be caused by her loss -- well, then you have to accept this as well. And you have to understand that it might be your beloved, amazing, highly effective teacher or principal next. Because the specific rules broken by the choir teacher were not important, it was the fact of having broken the rules at all that got her fired. That, and being from an outspoken school community that had specifically gotten under the skin of the district for the MAP protest and worse, for outsmarting them last year when they tried to pull a teacher from Garfield. Payback is a bitch -- just look at all the classroom cuts following the strike, and how certain people at the district were pointedly blaming the strike for their failure to accurately predict enrollment.
If your school is currently not toeing the line, if you have staff sticking their necks out on behalf of their students, or quietly doing the right thing rather than follow an asinine district rule, better shape up!
(Note that these rules do not apply to the central office. Screw up all you want, there -- surely a promotion and a raise will be coming soon. Only if you do something illegal AND someone finds out about it will you risk losing your job. Even then, you might get severance pay!)
By the way, to the Pritchett fans: I'm sure you have had positive interactions with her. She's probably a very nice person in some situations and to certain people. But some of us have had specific, extremely negative interactions with her, in which she has been rude, condescending, petty, and unprofessional. She works for us and her work performance is fair game for criticism. If you were not privy to those specific incidents, perhaps you shouldn't be trying to defend her from those who were.
The RCW related to this issue allows for the principal to be fired, but does not recommend doing so. Haven't the students had enough lack of stability?
I hope Queen Anne families organize and testify at the next school board meeting and bring signs. The board will evaluate the superintendent, vote to extend Nyland's contract and possibly offer a raise. It is time for the families of Queen Anne to file their own superintendent evaluation.
Does failure to evaluate long term substitutes fall under this same "to be terminated immediately?" If so, I think Stevens has a case. Maybe we've been barking up the wrong tree this entire time...
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Scrawny Kayaker
I hear two voices on the blog: those who continue to chant a rule is a rule. Others who look at the quality of the person who failed to follow the infraction. Perhaps Dave quietly made an act of civil disobedience because he thought he might be the perfect principal to do it. Rosa Parks was chosen - no accident.
Yes, that's a stretch I know. But still, he is smart and he's decent. Perhaps bridling under all the rule-making dictators now in large supply down at Stanford, he decided to support his teachers rather than evaluate them to death. Look at the capacity indicated above. That is a successful school by all measures. From my perspective, he's letting his teachers teach.
Few parents would be so activated if my principal left under duress.
@Teacher: perhaps the difference between your school and mine is the principal. Ours is by the book in every way and many teachers are discouraged and tired. I can't remember a staff meeting this year that has been open for teacher-generated agenda items. Everything is micro-managed.
Again,I don't think SPS is required to fire Mr. Elliott but a point must be made. That is being made with a highly effective principal is troubling because it's harder to find those people. (Although our loss might be Bellevue's gain.)
And yes, it certainly looks like central staff, senior staff have not done many things that they were legally obligated to do (not to mention Board policies). Where is the hammer on those issues?
So someone on the Board should ask the Superintendent to consider a memo to ALL SPS staff to be sure that ALL staff know they must follow ALL rules/policies or they WILL be subject to termination.
And where is PASS - the principals' association? Hmm.
I would add that senior staff doesn't seem to have learned anything from the strike. The attitude of too many downtown administrators is that if there is a problem, then the answer is to spend more money on downtown administrators. For example, we recently caught wind of talk that they are thinking about devoting a .5 administrator position to coordinate the IB coordinators. The IB coordinators don't need a downtown coordinator. What they need is more financial support for the IB programs.
I'm not saying that the district is going to do this. Rather, my point is that the mentality of downtown administrators has not changed, and will not change, until a superintendent is hired to turn downtown administration into an efficient service-oriented organization instead of the House of Arrogance that it now is.
David Edelman
Teacher
I agree with you. They showed their true colors when they expanded the GeoZone area for QAE to include all of Queen Anne. They did this because there are so many families in the area, and they wanted to alleviate crowding at Coe and Hay Elementaries. In all fairness, those other Queen Anne schools are overcrowded too. The District created this problems by closing schools the year of one of the biggest baby booms since, well, the Baby Boom! In 2007, more kids were born than many recent years. My boys were born that year. So SPS is now trying to solve a problem of their own making. It is frustrating. Glad we squeaked into QAE before the GeoZone was expanded, because we live outside the neighborhood and would have had a snowball's chance in hell of getting in!
-Mad Parent
He sounds like a student who won't own up to defiant behavior but tries to blame others.
Just carefully parse the letter, it's actually quite indicative of a person with a narcissistic personality. He's no doubt let all the praise and adulation get the best of him.
He also is obviously trying to stir the pot and create some drama over this.
His letter could have been more detailed and put all rumors to rest, could have truly calmed the waters and helped everyone move on. However he stoked the flames, first by delaying any communication, and then with this strange letter which is all over the map and basically blames his firing on SP and MT, while at the same time he pretends to take responsibility.
I challenge his supporters to reread the letter carefully and see if this isn't the product of a man with an ego problem.
I doublechecked. Bellevue is where the TOPS principal went when he apparently got more than fed up with the bureaucracy under Tolley and Whitworth. Whitworth being the counterpart to Pritchett in all ways that drive the best school focused leaders out of a system that rewards only downtown bow-downs, making pals with the education directors and keeping one's mouth shut on the inane self-serving bureaucracy that is SPS middle management and upper management.
I am rapidly approaching rethinking a city takeover. Let's see what the new board majority does. If they can't fix it, then I no longer have hope that the system will right itself. Power preserves power and the power at the top right now is nothing I want for this city, its educators or our students.
If downtown SPS cannot look at QAE and see a model school, built on the talent and dedication of a model leader, then it needs to be imploded. Or exploded. Both would be enjoyable to watch.
Seen It
Aware
Again, there are legalities involved on both sides and all public statements have to be written from that viewpoint. It may explain some of the tone/parsing of issues.
You are not carefully parsing this letter and the things that you point out are only obvious to you because they only reside in your thoughts.
David's letter is indeed only one side of the story but it is at least a well thought out side. He takes responsibility for his actions. This is something that SPS has failed to do. In their interactions with QAE parents, SPS has been anything but accountable and transparent. It is especially ironic that Sara Pritchett included a line about asking her questions in her email and then took off and left her out of office on to answer our questions. If she really did understand what a change like this means and if she had any empathy for students and parents, she would have changed her schedule and met with parents, been present, or at least responded to email questions.
I can tell you one thing. David Elliott never shirked from spending his off hours to address the needs and concerns of his students, parents, and community.
Too bad we can't do 60 page evals on some of SPS admin folk!! ;)
I imagine there is a great deal more to this whole kerfuffle than anyone is able to tell us right now, given that lawyers are involved on both sides. Whatever the reasons, Admin handled this very very poorly. Quelle surprise!
reader47
Hmm...
-ITK
-QAE Balance
Either Sarah Pritchett is incompetent or she's malicious. If she was doing her job, she would have known that the evaluation process had stopped with the theft of David's laptop and she would have helped him develop a plan to complete them. Say what you will about Kim Witworth, she knows exactly where her principals are on their evaluation deadlines and she would never let June arrive without evaluations getting done. Another option is that Pritchett is malicious. She looked the other way and allowed June to pass and then summer and then September, because she knew this is the one thing the district can fire a principal over.
As well as being an excellent building administrator and educator, David felt it his duty to speak out on bad policy and the building-level consequences of bad decisions by district leadership. He was a senior principal, and was wililng to speak the truth about our district's horrendous enrollment predictions and penny-pinching staffing at the building level. He wanted more site based control over school budgets, use of technology, and staffing so that each administrator could meet the needs of his/her students. He put his students and his staff before the hysteria and reactionary politics at JSCEE. Larry Nyland would rather not have someone like David Elliot in the district. Nyland would rather continue to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars insulating himself with the 35-45 Directors he's created positions for and hired, paying them salaries higher than a principal and taking educators out of our schools and away from our children. Instead of doing the difficult work of creating systems and procedures that serve students and families, Nyland would rather fire a highly-skilled and effective principal because he's tired of hearing what he has to say. Larry Nyland and Sarah Pritchett are punishing an entire school community, and negatively impacting Coe Elementary because they don't like David Elliot and want him gone.
Our district leadership seems to have a bottomless well of bad decisions to make. It's central office first, and students, families and building level staff last every single time.
QAE Parent
QAE Parent
-QAE Balance supporter
Of course there are three great elementary schools on QA, what does that have to do with the current situation? None of them should have their principal fired abruptly in the middle of October when the justification for the firing was known in May.
I support QAE Balance, too. No principal, however talented, can please everyone all the time. In fact, the ones who do aren't very good leaders. I'm sure there are more than a few families at QAE, as there would be at any school, who welcome a change in leadership.
Your divisive and pointless comments sound like sour grapes. You can agree with another commenter without getting vicious.
QAE Parent
I personally did not know the laptop story in relation to these evaluations and this is a crucial piece of information. In fact, if these forms are indeed as long as has been suggested, losing your work to date is HUGE. Furthermore, I think SPS needs to look at some process improvement to not only revisit this evaluation process in terms of its length, etc. but also in terms of not setting their employees up for "failure by paperwork."
-QAE Balance
Two questions need to be answered: 1) Why wasn’t Principal Elliott doing the primary job of a principal (which used to mean principal EDUCATOR of those in his charge), which is to provide instructional leadership and expert evaluation of his teachers? I taught in the SPS for 36 years, and never did a year go by without a written evaluation that was elaborated upon in a conference with the principal. It took place in June. Mr. Elliott has had four additional months and he's still working on them? Sorry, but not completing an essential part of what one was hired to do is cause for termination (as for the new rationale -that his laptop was stolen - why didn't he mention that exculpatory fact in his letter to the community?); 2) but why termination after school has been in session for 5 weeks? The disruption and public outcry were foreseeable, so why would a district intervene so peremptorily at this time? If the late evaluations were the only proximate cause of the firing, why not take action in August?
Perhaps because there is more, and the unfinished evaluations are merely the cover story hiding a far more serious breach of duty (professional and/or legal). Common sense tells me that this is more than likely.
The SPS always reiterates that "this is a personnel matter" about which the public need not be informed. Those pressing for the whole story have good reason - as well as the right - to do so. The reasons for the termination of a principal (or, for that matter, a teacher) should not be concealed behind the facile invocation of the mantra "privileged information." Doing so makes public oversight of our schools that much more difficult. As U.S. Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis reminded us, "sunlight is the best disinfectant." It is important to determine if state law requires -or at least does not forbid -full disclosure.
But if they succeed in discovering the most important and proximate cause of David Eliot's firing, his supporters may wish they had not.
Res Ipsa Loquitur
Move on
I find all the comments interesting. Dave isn't perfect because no one is. I guess it is a matter of priorities. I hear some unforgiving voices above and others who hold him in adulation. I can't speak to the faults and failures he displayed but I can attest to his excellence as a teacher himself and to his guiding principle that a good principal supports his teachers and expects them to teach well. Dave is a people person. If it comes to a choice between rules and people, he'll choose people.
Also, a lost laptop with all his notes? Honestly, isn't there any sensitivity or understanding and leniency left?
What was Nyland like in Marysville?
To those above whose experience with Dave was less helpful, I've never worked with a principal who treated all the same. They do work politics at every level. We all do. With so many parents, children and teachers to address, he may have failed with some of you. I'm a teacher who has been guilty of that as well. I apologized to one student the following year when I realized I'd let him down - not academically but socially. Most of us try hard to do our best but we don't always get it done. Chances are Dave's reading these comments. If he returns, hopefully he'll take those posts from families he's let down to heart as much as the others.
You know, correcting mistakes is really a cheap shot. It is the put-down elites make to those they think less of. Much like giving rules a higher importance than people. Sort of the tail wagging the dog. I make mistakes. Sometimes out of ignorance and often out of fast typing. Read for content rather than conventions. To me it's the difference between proof editors and thinkers. (Not meant for Garfield Mom - I did appreciate the "toe-the-line" correction. You have no idea how many times I've look that up only to forget it again.)
Furthermore, why attack me or my opinions? I am a parent at the school and allowed to have an opinion based on my experience. You can disagree with it but that doesn't make me extreme.
Also, if his work laptop was indeed stolen, I am curious if there was any personal information on there pertaining to students/families. That is very concerning to me.
Lastly, I do know of one teacher who left because of David's lack of leadership. He was letting a squabble among teachers escalate rather than stepping in and mediating the conversation. And he was allowing one teacher's ego decide the reading/writing curriculum, rather than examining the situation with a clear head. I can not speak to why the other 5+ teachers left last year.
And I agree with you that it was one teacher that I also know about. As for the others, much had to do with where folks lived, commutes, areas of focus, etc., but none other related to David of which I am aware.
I'm not sure exactly how many teachers left, but none left because of a conflict with David. QAE has some very specific programs and space restrictions. The music teacher left because she didn't want to teach in a portable that was shared with the after school program, and she found a better situation elsewhere. One teacher left because she has young children and lives and owns a family business up north. One left because she might have to move and wants to ensure her young children can continue to attend their elementary school - she is now teaching in that school, ensuring her children can stay there even if she moves. Another teacher left because she wanted to teach a more phonics-based reading curriculum, and QAE is using a Readers Workshop model. The art teacher left because she's a better fit with high school students. Moving for these reasons happens in the teaching profession ALL THE TIME, and is often in spite of a good principal, not because of one. Now that QAE isn't a small school, there are bound to be more teachers coming and going - most of them are young, are starting families or buying homes or simply finding their permanent position.
There is so much ugliness in this situation already - a staff who has had their captain thrown off the ship, children who don't see Mr. Elliot anymore, families who are being told to be "good sports" about district leadership so incompetent we're asked to be good sports again and again and again while district leadership is held accountable for nothing.
QAE Balance, get a grip. You clearly know why the other teachers left last year - none of it was secret - so why imply it was because of bad leadership? I'm sorry you had an issue with David and you or your child didn't get whatever it was you think you deserved, but David Elliot isn't principal of only your child. He had to ensure the safety and equity of an entire school of children.
"If David's personal life was too much for him to manage, he should have taken leave last year."
That is not harsh. That is logical. And that is what great leaders do. They lead. And when they can't, they acknowledge it and let others take the helm.
A core tenet of Positive Discipline, which is at the heart of QAE, is "kindness and firmness at the same time". It is not just kindness. Holding people accountable is neither rude nor harsh---it can be much more respectful to the person in question and all the many hundreds of people affected by their action or inaction. Having boundaries is healthy. I have been very involved with the school all along. I am well aware of the culture.
We don't know all the facts, but we should stick to those we do know. And I was just corrected about the music teacher by my spouse, who says she actually left to begin the Danforth program at UW - not a program you can attend and still work full time in a school.
Very brave of you for stating an opinion opposite that of the angry mob. Our experience at QAE was mixed. I saw DE walk across the wet playground one day, and he walked through a puddle not on top of it. Rosa Parks? Get ahold of yourselves, people. The hagiography is embarrassing.
DE has strengths and weaknesses. QAE has strengths and weaknesses. I daresay that some of DE's weaknesses are things that Charlie and Dan Dempsey complain about in others, like dismissive attitudes toward math and ALO. He is very proud of his policy of saying "yes" to the district, then doing things however he wants. This policy often benefitted the school.
Perhaps he overplayed his hand one too many times. He bitched about the district constantly. He buttonholed my wife and me at a school event and went on and on for 10 minutes about the problems he was having getting iPads for all through SPS purchasing. Didn't ask us one thing about ourselves or our student. Interacted with him many times, and he never asked me one thing about my student. A great pontificator. We drank the Kool Aid but much of what was promised when he was recruiting new students for the brand new school never came to pass. That's ok. Nothing is perfect, and much was very good. Maybe his anger and frustration caused him to burn a few too many bridges. Maybe he thought with Reuven Carlyle or Tina Podledowski or other wealthy and powerful parents made him invincible.
The important thing is that the students truly feel known and loved by the staff and the principal. They are encouraged in many wonderful ways. Academics suffer. Discipline suffers. But you can't do everything well, despite what the rabid fans on this site are suggesting. As with anything, you balance the pros and cons, and figure out what will work best for your kid. I feel bad for the kids because many of them love DE. He shouldn't have painted himself into a corner.
QAExperienced
-QAMagStraddler
"Another teacher left because she wanted to teach a more phonics-based reading curriculum, and QAE is using a Readers Workshop model."
Are there schools and teachers who are not using the Readers Workshop model?
-- Dan Dempsey
10/24/15, 4:36 PM
--Reposting This
reader
I also shared some of my story to highlight that DE did make mistakes, some pretty serious. I'm not saying life or death serious, but perhaps fireable offenses. Knowing what I know, it is easy to imagine there may be more problems I didn't know about and I'm just leaving room for that. There may be more to the story than any of us know.
And I also want people in the community to know that he was necessarily the "beloved leader" to everyone, which is how some people are talking.
I hope to help create room for people who are not part of the currently outspoken group. Like I said in my original post, I am not telling people that hold DE in high regard they are wrong. At one point in time, I would have felt the same way. My experiences have led me down a different path and I request people be respectful of that.
Message from Dave Elliott on QAE facebook page. Not much new info but more personal.
To QAE Balance: I don't think he's a saint. When surrounded by money and status like Podlowski and Carlyle, his ego probably did inflate. A few, perhaps many, get lost in all that adulation. Too bad really.
If Mr. Elliot had opted to be terminated he would have had the right to exercise an appeal of that termination, to both the Superintendent and the Board. He would have had PASS representation and support through the process, is my understanding, and, if that process had failed, he would then still have the option to pursue legal recourse (perhaps still with the assistance of PASS) against the district should he be able to demonstrate that there was failure to comply in process or breach of policy or RCW somewhere along the way resulting in professional damages/etc. Why then is he opting to take leave and resign?
Teacher Evaluations are due on May 15th. Part of "rational" for this is that it allows teaching staff at all schools to apply as the job pool opens up, and have current evaluations on record, as they do this. Trying to be logical in my own thought process, if the Teacher Evaluation work was not completed by May 15th and instructions were not being implicitly provided by JSCEE as to a next deadline... would it not seem obvious to look towards the end of the current academic year (June 28/29/30/etc) as a "goal" for completion... and if not then, wouldn't the/a next logical assumption be BEFORE the beginning of the next academic year?
If, as it is stated in above comments, that Mr. Elliot failed to complete his Teacher Evaluations was due in part to his laptop being stolen, is there a police report to verify this? Where was the laptop stolen from? Was the laptop an SPS provided laptop? If so, was SPS notified that district property was stolen and is now missing? If it was SPS property what other district data and student information was on that laptop; and, does that have any relevance to this matter? Furthermore, was any student specific or identifiable data on that laptop and have those families been informed, and what precautions has SPS taken in this instance?
Considering Mr. Elliot has presented a letter to the public but left out various pieces of information, perhaps inadvertently, but nowhere that I read did he ask to be re-instated. One thing all sides of the QAE community ought to consider is that a great school is the sum of its parts... it is not just its principal . I ask you this, if Mr. Elliot resigned and does not come back, do you no longer exist as a school? Give your teachers and staff some credit, give your students some credit, give your program some credit, and, hell, give yourselves some credit.
I find this issue of a stolen laptop curious. That would seem like a major issue, for both Mr. Elliott and the district depending on what was on it. I have to wonder if this may be some kind of smoking gun in what is happening (but not being said).
As well, good points on 1) where is the principals association on this? 2) does Mr. Elliott want to stay or not? 3) while I believe a principal is the most important part of any school, indeed, he/she is not the community.
As Director Peters stated at her meeting today -which was well-attended and she did a superlative job - Mr. Elliott can appeal and that appeal would go to the Board, not the Superintendent. However, it could be fraught with problems should he lose (pension and health benefit issues).
I think we will close this particular discussion for now.