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SPS Teacher On Tavis Smiley Show
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Shout out to Northgate's Zac Stowell and the radio report on his classroom that aired on the Tavis Smiley show recently. It's a great 9-minutes of a day in the life of Mr. Stowell's classroom.
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listener said…
He sounds like a strong teacher and I was very supportive of his comments until this:
...in certain environments, you can put a robot in front of the kids and the kids are going to be successful. They have all the parts in place; they have the afterschool piano and the violin, the karate and gymnastics and soccer. You know, our kids don't have that...these students need the best teachers and some of the not as effective teachers should be in schools that don't need as effective teachers...
listener - you're exhibit #1 of 1 of the big reasons why teachers don't go in front of the public - who needs your kind of nit-picking after spending all day focused on teaching / herding 25+ little kids or 150+ adolescents?
maybe he should have used different phrasing - such as you need a different skill set at his school than at a school where all you do is hand out As, Bs, gold stars and trophies to keep the helicopter parents off your back!
by the way - do you have any ideas to get your ideas paid for?
Mr. Stowell said that some students need the MOST effective teachers while others can be successful with LESS effective teachers. He did not say that any students should have INeffective teachers.
Please don't suggest he said something that he did not say.
Anonymous said…
Not true, Charlie. The quote in the first comment matches the broadcast word for word.
Charlie, it's the robot bit people are talking about. Yes, it's hyperbole, but that image sure sounds as though he's saying a totally inadequate teacher would be okay as long as the kids have karate and violin lessons and such. And I'm sorry, but it isn't that simple to raise educated kids even if you have got the money for extras.
(hey, even captcha wants me to prove I'm not a robot...)
Helen Schinske
Zac Stowell said…
Dear Listener, Thank you for listening to a day in my life. I would like to clarify my statement. I agree 100% with you. Yes, ALL STUDENTS DESERVE EFFECTIVE TEACHERS. But in reality that is not the case and there are many ineffective teachers teaching in positions that leave children with huge deficits. The point that I was trying to make, and I did a poor job doing so, was that teaching in a failing, poverty stricken school has the neediest students and they need the best and most effective teachers to help them cover their achievement gaps. Some other schools have so many systems in place and family involvement that help with student success. I feel that certain kids can be successful no matter who teaches them because of those systems that are in place. My students don’t have those same opportunities and that is why I give them my all. I am not alone. I work with a core group of teachers that eat, sleep, and breathe school. I believe in my heart that all of my students are “Too important to fail” just like the name of this series. This segment took 7 hours of audio and crammed it into 10 minutes. There are bound to be some questions unanswered. I am always up for great discussion. zwstowell@seattleschools.org Thank you for your input and support your local schools. Zac Stowell Northgate Elementary
Anonymous said…
I am sorry I missed the program, but am enjoying the comments. I am a volunteer working at Zack Stowell's school. He is a remarkable teacher and I wish all students everywhere had teachers as caring and as effective. And I agree with him that high needs schools do need 100% from its teaching staff as well as from the administration. Of course, we want great teachers everywhere, but in schools where kids have multiple roadblocks to hurdle, it's almost a matter of life and death. Success in life vs. multiple problems later on. I was amazed at the vitriol. Be respective!
The speaker list is up for the Board meeting tomorrow; not as packed as I thought with just four people on the waitlist. The majority of the speakers are speaking on high school boundaries (with several wanting to talk about Ballard High). There are only three of us speaking about the Green Dot resolution asking the City to not grant the zoning departures that Green Dot has requested. It's me, long-time watchdog, Chris Jackins, and the head of the Washington State Charter Schools Association, Patrick D'Amelio. (I knew Mr. D'Amelio when he headed the Alliance for Education and Big Brothers and Big Sisters; he's a stand-up guy.)
Update 2: an absolutely fabulous interactive map made by parent Beth Day (@thebethocracy on Twitter - she covers Board meetings and is fun to read). end of update Update 1: Mea culpa, I did indeed get Decatur and Thornton Creek mixed up. Thanks to all for the correction. end of update I suspect some who read this post will be irate. Why do this? Because the district seems very hellbent on this effort with no oversight skid marks from the Board. To clearly state - I do not believe that closing 20 schools is a good idea. I think they hit on 20 because they thought it might bring in the most savings. But the jury is still out on the savings because the district has not shown its work nor its data. I suspect closing schools and THEN leasing/renting them is the big plan but that means the district really has to keep the buildings up. But this district, with its happy talk about "well-resourced schools" is NOT acknowledging the pain and yes, grief, that is to come fro
Please let us know if you attend the rally before the meeting. Seeing photos from Twitter; looks like a good crowd at the rally. The West Seattle Blog is there reporting. I am going to attempt to live blog so you will see abbreviations, spelling/grammar errors, etc. I will clean it up but I think it is worth trying to do. I will be refreshing the page as I go. I am sad to see that apparently President Liza Rankin is not even going to allow 10 people over the regular 20 to testify. Just five. Also, right at the beginning, the Board has stuck in, after Board comments, a Progress Monitoring presentation. They could have put it at the end but they didn't. They think - in 45 minutes - they can do Superintendent comments, Board comments and this presentation. I doubt that public testimony will start on-time. Tone-deaf doesn't even cover it with Board leadership. To note, apparently the district scheduled the NE community meeting on closures on Rosh Hashanah which is October 2. I
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...in certain environments, you can put a robot in front of the kids and the kids are going to be successful. They have all the parts in place; they have the afterschool piano and the violin, the karate and gymnastics and soccer. You know, our kids don't have that...these students need the best teachers and some of the not as effective teachers should be in schools that don't need as effective teachers...
All kids need effective teachers. Period.
you're exhibit #1 of 1 of the big reasons why teachers don't go in front of the public - who needs your kind of nit-picking after spending all day focused on teaching / herding 25+ little kids or 150+ adolescents?
maybe he should have used different phrasing - such as you need a different skill set at his school than at a school where all you do is hand out As, Bs, gold stars and trophies to keep the helicopter parents off your back!
by the way - do you have any ideas to get your ideas paid for?
AttackThePhraseHerding!
Please don't suggest he said something that he did not say.
listen again
They talk about degrees of effectiveness, not effective and ineffective. Less effective does not equate to ineffective.
If that were the case then every teacher but one, the most effective, would be ineffective.
(hey, even captcha wants me to prove I'm not a robot...)
Helen Schinske
Thank you for listening to a day in my life. I would like to clarify my statement. I agree 100% with you. Yes, ALL STUDENTS DESERVE EFFECTIVE TEACHERS. But in reality that is not the case and there are many ineffective teachers teaching in positions that leave children with huge deficits. The point that I was trying to make, and I did a poor job doing so, was that teaching in a failing, poverty stricken school has the neediest students and they need the best and most effective teachers to help them cover their achievement gaps. Some other schools have so many systems in place and family involvement that help with student success. I feel that certain kids can be successful no matter who teaches them because of those systems that are in place. My students don’t have those same opportunities and that is why I give them my all. I am not alone. I work with a core group of teachers that eat, sleep, and breathe school. I believe in my heart that all of my students are “Too important to fail” just like the name of this series. This segment took 7 hours of audio and crammed it into 10 minutes. There are bound to be some questions unanswered. I am always up for great discussion.
zwstowell@seattleschools.org
Thank you for your input and support your local schools.
Zac Stowell
Northgate Elementary
I was amazed at the vitriol. Be respective!