Seattle Schools Student Assignment Info for 2011-2012
Here's a link to the SPS webpage.
The automatic enrollment/waitlist number is 252-0410 - you must have student's ID # and birthdate.
(Thanks to all for the updates.)
The automatic enrollment/waitlist number is 252-0410 - you must have student's ID # and birthdate.
(Thanks to all for the updates.)
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Instead, they gave us our 6th choice, Jane Addams.
We live in Ravenna and would really prefer a closer school.
Anyone? Is Sandpoint full at this point?
sigh. I'm baffled by the system.
Wendy
The older kid got a mandatory assignment to JR a few years back; they wanted both kids either there or at VR, their current neighborhood school. Instead, the district split them.
I thought linked sibling option was a guarantee - am I wrong? Was that just for this current school year that your older kid could move back to the neighborhood school if you had an incoming Kindergartner? Should this family have expected a different outcome?
Certain "safety net" assignment rules can impact assignments and/or waiting list status, as follows:
If an incoming K student applied just for the older sibling's school during Open Enrollment and was assigned to the new attendance area school instead, the older sibling will be assigned to the attendance area school upon request (assuming services needed are available at that school).
If the older student is attending a school outside of the attendance area to access special education services not available at the attendance area school, the "safety net" of assigning the older sibling to the attendance area school is not possible. If the incoming K student applied just for the older sibling's school, and if the services the older student needs are not available at the attendance area school, the incoming K student will be assigned to the older sibling's school upon request.
This will be done only if specifically requested by the family after Open Enrollment. A family may choose to exercise this option at any time after Open Enrollment through September 30. Standard transportation eligibility rules apply.
If K-5 siblings apply for several different schools during Open Enrollment and get assigned to different schools, staff will, upon request, identify at least one school in their service area where the family will be offered space for siblings so they will not have to be split. A family may choose to exercise this option at any time after Open Enrollment through September 30.
I believe the compromise of the split sibs was that an older sib is guaranteed a seat in the neighborhood school.
Bird, VR is their school now; the JR assignment was under the old system when lots of NE families got mandatory assignments there because their desired schools were full. I thought as you did that the older child could move to VR now with the incoming K if both schools were on the form and the linkage option was checked. We'll see how it all turns out. Peaches' information sounds like they have an option to request a change before Sept. 30th.
- WS North Mom
The next data comes from the June assignment numbers, but these numbers, the ones immediately following Open Enrollment, are notoriously wildly wrong. That said, the District does have formulas that they use to derive predictions for October enrollment based on those absurdly wrong June numbers.
So the next meaningful numbers are the District's projections for October based on the June numbers.
Again, the raw June numbers are no good, but - when properly adjusted - they can be used to make highly predictive projections of the actual October numbers.
The District will have those revised projections in about a month or so.
Jenphil
we feel for you, as our family is identically situated. Also, am I right in saying that due to the new transportation rules, the district has just pulled your elder child's transportation to Laurelhurst, and would not offer it now to your younger even if there were a space available?
Now you know how the district created the bogus yet devastating NSAP "capacity" problem. During planning, they were asked to allow attendance area children with younger preschool siblings to switch immediately to their new attendance area schools. Tracy Libros, enrollment manager, said no, because their would be no space. Mathematically, this makes no sense, since for every older sibling who opted into their neighborhood school, a corresponding space would also be freed up for another older sibling to join the grandfathered school. This is like shutting off a backflow valve and then complaining of a flood.
Instead, the district's ridiculous plan was to herd all younger siblings into the consequently crowded schools of their older siblings who were being denied any guaranteed space in their own attendance area schools! Your 2009-10 kindergarten daughter was "grandfathered" into her new school, from which the district has now pulled transportation and split your siblings despite all promises to the contrary.
The so-called NSAP capacity issue was always bogus and was entirely the product of the Seattle School District's inability to comprehend everyday math.
Your only consolation is that Laurelhurst and Bryant are both excellent schools -- neighborhood teaching excellence, central administrative mess.
Split siblings 2
Chief Sealth has a large waiting list, due to the gerrymandering of the borders - hopefully some of it will clear.
As for us, we chose Montessori and not only were we not assigned to Bagley, we weren't waitlisted either. According to enrollment, "there is a note on your records that since your child receives special education services she is not eligible for this program." !!! This is incredibly absurd--half the kids in the inclusion program are in Montessori, including her older sister. So now I have two small children with IEPs assigned to schools 2 miles apart, starting at the same time. I don't know how this will end, but the stress is killing me.
--monkeypuzzled
John Hay parent.
For those who have to decide what to do now that their children are in two separate schools, I feel for you.
I simply can't understand how the district thought this new plan with no transition period for sibling grandfathering was a good thing to do. It either causes families to be split up or uproot children who have already integrated into their current schools.
You might want to try contacting the Washington state Education Ombudsman, they might be able to help you improve this situation.
http://www.governor.wa.gov/oeo/
Jenphil
My son is in special ed and we were trying to move him from his option school to somewhere with a stronger service model. We had to ammend his IEP to require the services, then just wait and see where the district decided to stick us.
Weirdly enough, we ended up at our neighborhood school. Turns out they have an inclusion program that can accomodate him. Still kind of waiting for the other shoe to drop, but right now it seems like a good fit. As long as the inclusion program doesn't get phased out, of course...
You are offered the option of contacting Enrollment Services and they will find a school within your Service Area that will have space for all of the siblings.
There is a Safety Net offered for entry level out of area siblings. You may list only the school that the older sibling attends on your Open Enrollment application. If the entry level child does not get into the olders school you can then request to move the older kids to the Attendance Area school of the youngest.
The mom with kids split between John Rogers and View Ridge *voided* her Safety Net by listing three schools on her application. If she had only listed John Rogers she could have requested the oldest be moved to View Ridge, but not now.
Sounds like a choice from a South Park episode - The one when the kids were voting between a turd sandwich and a giant douche for a school mascot.
Good grief, all the rules, and exceptions to the rules make the whole system incomprehensible. It's almost a wonder that anyone gets their desired school anymore.
--monkeypuzzled
How can they wait list people for any assignment other than geographic when all programs are pretty full (and overflowing) at all locations? Don't count on that.
-Adding to the confusion
Sorry 'bout that, I seem to be adding to the confusion my own bad self: The school Thing 1 was assigned to was the 3rd choice on the application. 1st choice: APP at School X (non pathway); 2nd choice, Spectrum at School X; 3rd choice, APP at school Y (pathway). The assignment was to the 3rd choice on the list, the APP school closest to us geographically. Thing 2 listed School Y Spectrum 3rd choice; did not get into any program in the choices, assignment reverted back to neighborhood general ed, no Spectrum.
The problem is multi-faceted and rare, but not unique. Silly me for hoping there might be some assistance besides "Just go to your neighborhood school, and let your kids work 1-2 grade levels down."
Couldn't you have applied to your geographic APP location as your first choice and get sibling preference into Spectrum?
I'm also a mother of twins - and that would be much more preferred to me than splitting up the kids or opting for no services...
May be a moot point now - and you may be out of luck.
-The joy (and pain) of twins
I don't know if this will help, but there is a Twins/Multiples Assignment guarantee to be at the same school (not program, school only.)
Both twins can be assigned to the school of the twin with the lowest Student ID #.
If Thing One has the lowest ID number you can request to have both twins attend Thing One's school.
It'll get squared away, hopefully sooner than later. It would be helpful if enrollment relied on a little bit of common sense and heart over whatever janky version of Watson they have running the algorithms over on Lander.
Thanks for the insight, Round 3 begins tomorrow. I wish good luck to any and all parents whose open enrollment outcomes were not the ones intended or desired.
Why isn't the Spectrum capacity for the school big enough to accomodate all of the Spectrum-eligible students in the school?
It has nothing to do with the school's capacity - the kid is already in the building - it is just an arbitrary ceiling placed on Spectrum enrollment.
I agree that of course they should provide enough Spectrum classes for all Spectrum eligible kids. I guess that was why I was hoping, for Rufus, that he can get Thing 2 past the Watchers at the Gates. Once in the school, perhaps he can engineer a switch into Spectrum, or at least find the most Spectrum-ish solution possible.
It makes no sense at all. It is completely undefendable.
They can say things like "We can't form complete classes" if the Spectrum students don't come in convenient sets of 30, but that's bullshit because we all know that the vast majority of Spectrum schools don't have students in classroom size sets. If the school has 46 students then they should form two classes with 23 District-identified Spectrum students and 7 school-identified students in each.
"Oh but then we won't have many high performing students in our general education classes" they whine. Tough. Lots of schools don't have many high performing students in their general education classes. They don't whine about it.
-curious mom
WV: reeppent and be saved.
Susanne
- Waiting
Last year (first year of the NSAP) they overbooked as per past practice. However, how the wait lists moved varied. If an Option School they let the class sizes drop to the desired levels then moved the wait list.
At Attendance Area schools they let the class sizes drop but did not move the wait list until late summer/Sept. as they were holding back seats for any Attendance Area kids that might show up in Sept.
curious
--Parent of Kid 1 & 2
Rufus X - I was wrong. In the case of twins/multiples it is assignment to the school of the child with the HIGHEST ID # - not the lowest.
Hope this helps.
We were talking with friends last night and, as usual, the conversation got around to SPS. They were telling us about a girl who's on the wait-list for Roosevelt . . in the top 20 on the list. Her assignment school is Nathan Hale, though she's geographically right in the middle of the two schools, but she's an accomplished string player and, as we've talked about before, Nathan Hale doesn't really have an orchestra. (At one point this year it was 6 people. The standard response about this concern is always "we're building the program and in 4-5 years it'll be flourishing." Of course, that doesn't help those entering now, does it?)
Does anyone here have experience with the Roosevelt wait list and how many people actually move off the list each year? Is there a place to search for that information?
stu
I think it may depend a LOT on what year she is. Sometimes, movement at the 9th grade can be very different from movement at, say, the 11th grade.
Historically, folks in lake city that wanted specialized programs like orchestra but couldn't get into to Roosevelt went to Shorecrest in Shoreline where they have an orchestra.
- lake city mom
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