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Saturday, June 30, 2012

Updates on Middle College/K-5 STEM Siting

From Director Marty McClaren:

Bob Boesche, Interim Deputy Superintendent, met with South Seattle Community College President, Gary Oertli on Thursday, 6/28 to discuss possibilities for continuing to house Middle College HS at SSCC.

Mr. Boesche reports that President Oertli was very cordial and expressed great regret at having to ask MCHS to vacate its classrooms at SSCC.  He made it clear that the college has had an excellent relationship with the Middle College students and staff, as well as with Seattle Public Schools, and that the college simply has no more space, due to increasing SSCC enrollment. He also confirmed the decision was not based on any financial obligation (facilities have been provided at no cost). In addition, he confirmed that there is not space in the parking lots for portables.

 
Mr. Boesche and SPS staff are continuing to explore other sites in the Delridge/West Seattle area, ideally in proximity to South Seattle Community College.  Updates will be given as soon possible when we have any news.

11 comments:

Po3 said...

Is is safe to assume that MC cannot co-house with RBHS due to gang issues?

Melissa Westbrook said...

Po3, no idea. They may want to keep it in the area it has been for the last 20 years.

Jet City mom said...

It originally was at one site, SCCC. When did they mOve middle college to west Seattle?

Jet City mom said...

An outside study found middle college costs are 50% higher than traditional schools yet has no discern able difference in improving graduation rate.

Jet City mom said...

Sorry I was on my iPhone earlier & couldn't c&p.
http://ies.ed.gov/ncee/wwc/reports/dropout/midcollege_hs/info.asp

Melissa Westbrook said...

Emeraldkity, where did you find this study? Was this done under MGJ?

Jan said...

Emeraldkity: I haven't had a chance to look at your cited site yet -- but will say, anecdotally, that the kids I know whom Middle College has best served are kids who would have clearly dropped out of a regular comprehensive school. Two were APP kids, 1 was not -- but in each case -- they all graduated, and MC was a "last step" out of the system. From that perspective, even ONE graduation is a win. None of my kids has gone that route, so I can't defend the specifics of the programs. But from what little I have seen, they are valuable programs and should be preserved and strengthened (I know they suffered a fair amount under the MGJ curriculum alignment regime, which tried to impose upon them some of the poor curriculum decisions being crammed down on other schools. I don't know whether any of those bad decisions have survived her departure or not).

seattle citizen said...

emeraldkity, I loked at your cited research (WWC)and I'm wondering how they found their contol group. Here's what it says:
"One study [from Mathmatica] of Middle College High School meets What Works Clearinghouse (WWC) evidence standards. This randomized controlled trial included 394 students in the Seattle Public Schools who were assigned to either an intervention group that was offered admission to the alternative high school or a control group that was not offered admission. Control group students were free to participate in other regular and alternative high schools operated by the school district, as well as General Educational Development (GED) programs. Most control group students participated in one of these other education options.3

Based on this study, the WWC considers the extent of evidence for Middle College High School to be small for both the staying in school and the completing school domains. No studies that meet WWC evidence standards with or without reservations examined the effectiveness of Middle College High School in the progressing in school domain."
Can anyone tell me, from this research, how they identified both control and intervention-targeted students? Did students approacj SPS and ask for intervention, and some were sent to MC and some not? I'm unclear how this selection process happened, and maybe someone could clue me in.

Jet City mom said...

This study appears to be somewhat old & not under MGJ.

I am not sure why some were offered a seat at middle college, and why some were only offered other alternative or traditional options.
It would have been helpful to show what outcomes for all of the students, and to see if the students accepted to middle college were different in some way.

My daughter has a friend from high school who attended middle college and went on to recieve his AA certificate from SCCC and his BA from UChicago. but as he had attended private school until middle of high school and her parents are a university professor & former school board member, I doubt if he was typical.

I think that remedial/re-entry programs fill a need in SPS but we need to do a better job of targeting the population. Why with so many support services are less than half of students receiving a GED or diploma?

Our re-entry & remedial programs should be more intentional.
Students who do poorly in school because of behavior issues and lack of family support need different supports than students who need perhaps 18 months to complete 12 months of curriculum. ( or perhaps that could have been accomplished with simply lowering class size)

Completing school. Dynarski et al. (1998) found that 40% of students in the Middle College High School group had earned a high school diploma or GED certificate two years after random assignment, compared with 38% of control group students; a difference that was not statistically significant or substantively important.5
http://www.education.com/reference/article/Ref_Effectiveness_Middle/

holdin' out hope said...

Whatever came of the thread about broadview thomson and the concerns that have been expressed about the school during the past two years. Particularly with regards to staff being eliminated or targeted when not in agreement with administration. A number of staff have left and/or are currently trying to leave. The school year ended with physical intimindation of a staff member which has now resulted in an investigation. You mentioned about a month or two ago that you were aware of the Broadview situation and that something would be forthcoming but it never came....

Anonymous said...

MCHS @ SSCC started in 1992. Now that MCHS @ Seattle Central CC is gone (2000), South is the oldest of the remaining MCHS branches. One of the teachers at South is a MCHS graduate from the original MCHS.



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