Dorn to Release Spring Test Scores Next Tuesday
From OPSI:
State Superintendent Randy Dorn will release spring 2016 state testing results at 10 a.m., Tuesday, Aug. 16, at the John L. O’Brien Building in Olympia.
The release will consist of results from:
I will try to tune in.
- the Smarter Balanced assessments in English language arts and math, taken by students in grades 3-8 and 10-11;
- the Measurements of Student Progress (MSP) in science, taken by students in grades 5 and 8; and
TVW, Washington’s statewide public affairs television station, will broadcast and Webcast the news conference live. See www.tvw.org for Webcast details.
- high school end-of-course (EOC) exams in algebra I, geometry and biology.
Comments
Wasn't that one of the reasons for switching over to expensive new "computer adaptive testing"?
CT
The feds tried to force Wa. state to link test scores to teacher evaluations. Reykdal stood against the feds. Should the feds try and withhold funding from states- for a participation rate of less than 95%= Reykdal is ready to stand -up to the feds again.
I think it's a Washington thing. In California, SBAC results were sent out to parents weeks ago.
LisaG
I'm confused by the scale scores anyway. According to this, my elementary kid has already achieved a scale score that would be "4" for 11th grade. Is there any point to continuing to take this thing?
http://www.cde.ca.gov/ta/tg/ca/sbmaththresholdscre.asp
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Who cares if there is a 95% participation rate?
Only top-down bureaucrats.... Parents and Teachers and Students realize this is largely a time consuming, expensive waste of instructional time.
The school in CA my daughter goes to received their SBAC scores before the end of 2015-2016 school year and is using them to plan for 2016-17. The scores had them looking at a reading intervention program for ELL students in 4th and 5th grade (the school is about 65% ELL in kindergarten, but most have "graduated" from ELL by 4th grade).
I did discover that CA does not have the SBAC data available by schools on their website, so I guess it's not a WA thing, but a department of education thing to not make them available until this late.
LisaG
LisaG
a "any state" department of education thing.
LisaG
OSPI (and the contract vendor - AIR) determine the timing of the score release. The feds are not involved in the timing of the score release. That's the one thing you got correct.
Randy
I know many ELL and gen ed teachers who know how well all their stu dents read without the SBAC scores (which could well be wrong.) What does the SBAC tell these teachers that they don't already know from their classroom assessments and knowledge of the students as individuals (rather than as mere data on a yearly standardized test)?
Couldn't they make planning decisions without SBAC scores?
seattle citizen, given that ELLs (as well as low-income students and students of color) are often concentrated in schools with the least experienced and least effective teachers, many of these parents depend upon standardized test results for information on how their children are doing compared to other children in better resourced (read: privileged) schools. In other words, they don't necessarily trust their teachers' classroom assessments and knowledge (or lack thereof) of their children.
Randy
Of course they can, and they did. The SBAC scores just gave them additional information which shifted priorities a bit.
The school is in general high-performing, and also does quite well at "graduating" students from ELL status. And, depending on how you look at it, all teachers at the school are ELL teachers or there are zero ELL teachers. So each 4th or 5th grade teacher is probably aware of a few ELL students in his class who are struggling with reading. SBAC data showed that there is a large enough number of "un-graduated" ELL students in 4th and 5th grade that might benefit from a specific program.
I think getting the reading program moved up in priority over hiring another lunchtime supervisor. Instead they'll try to get some grandparent volunteers to do that job.
LisaG
Historically, there has long been a connection between family income and student test scores (kids from wealthier families do better) -- but since we already KNOW that, we don't need expensive high stakes tests for that either.
Finally, while I think it is true that taxpayers and policy makers want to generally know how well various schools are doing in educating the kids they enroll, neither PARCC nor SBA has any sort of established track record that ties their test scores to student learning. Given how hard it is to get access to test questions, etc., I at least (as a taxpayer, parent, and voter, have no interest in seeing either SBAC or PARCC results -- or MAP results either, for that matter. Nor did I care about WASL (or its successor's) results (except for my own kid -- where they didn't measure what the child knew, because of a language disability that the tests utterly don't take into account -- but it was a graduation requirement, so I cared that we could either pass it and check it off the list or figure out plan B (which would probably to have gotten high enough SAT scores to use those instead).
There's plenty of evidence of my claims. Do your own legwork.
Randy
How about Lutacaga Elementary in Othello (94% non-White, 83% low-income, 59% ELL with teachers averaging 8 years experience)? How about Wilder Elementary in Lake Washington (53% White/33% Asian, 3% low-income, 8 % ELL with teachers averaging 14 years experience)?
The evidence is out there. For more, read this article: http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/07/13/study-low-income-minorities-get-worst-teachers-in-washington-state.
Randy
And you know this how? Because my experience in Seattle Schools is that ELL parents trust the teachers more than the test.
And Randy won't tell us. So much for that.
Her or his comments strike me as dismissive of teachers, frankly.
http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/education/279385-standardized-testing-for-latino-students-opt-not-to-opt-out
Randy
On testing, there's this:
"They're testing them so we can know what they're learning, if they are learning anything, and if they're at the standards they need to be at to transfer eventually to a university," Sanchez said. "We want to know that they know what they're doing when they get there and if the teachers are actually teaching them what they need to be taught."
But tests really don't show any of this. We are well aware of the fallibility of the scores, the lack of relevance to current students (last year's scores given out just in time for next year's students...
Frankly, many parents believe the hype about these tests, that they're some kind of magicAL thing that is accurate, that reflects teaching, that efficaciously impacts planning...
The ELL and minority parents I talk to, and my colleagues, just ask US. You know, human to human instead of data from a machine.
As for our local El Centro de la Raza, they are clearly out of step with the national organization and other local organizations by opposing testing and charter schools. The National Council of La Raza supports testing --- as Ms. Marguia's op-ed demonstrates --- and charter schools and so do most local affiliates. And the fact that Latino students do not opt out of testing in large numbers and enroll in charter schools in large percentages is not in dispute. They choose with their feet. And their choices run counter to your own beliefs regarding testing and student choice.
Go figure.
Randy
The Gates Foundation, and others, were able to buy the votes of a similar SLIM majority of voters to get charters passed here in WA after they were voted down three times. Money buys a lot of misinformation.
My "beliefs" about both testing AND charters are grounded in fact.
Why did you bring charters into this discussion? Is it because you belueve they are part and parcel? It IS true that the charter industry absolutely requires the standardized tests in order to make their sales pitches, especially to minority communities. So I could see where you would link them here in this discussion.
Without the tests, without the "failing school" bs, without attempting to force children into racial categories in order to make claims about groups of children based on race, the charter industry would have no footing.
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