More Things that Make You Go, Hmmm
- From a parent who attended the SCPTSA meeting on Monday, Flip Herndon told several parents that they are considering an annex for Hamilton.
There is space at JAMS and Eckstein but rather than admit the enrollment made a mistake by sending 5 feeder schools to Hamilton, the smallest, least flexible middle school, they are going to plow ahead with an un-workable and expensive facilities solution to an enrollment planning goof.
- At least two letters in support of the Africatown MOU say that Africatown should be returned to "Horace Mann upon completion of the renovations." One of these was from the head of the Seattle/King County branch, Gerald Hankerson. I asked him about it and he said that former Superintendent Banda gave an "verbal agreement" this would happen.
And if it doesn't? Is Africatown going to sue the district? Those of you with suggestion that more room for Garfield could be found at Mann may just be out of luck.
- Why would Director McLaren, at the Charter School Work Session, ask if charter schools could leave out Sped/ELL students "like in other parts of the country." She was assured that they couldn't under Washington State law. She looked reassured. There is NO charter law in the country that leaves out Sped/ELL students; that would be illegal. The problem is that charters are allowed to say they "don't have the programs/services" for those students and they get exited. Now THAT is allowed.
- Also at the Charter Work Session, Superintendent Nyland opened with the Board being on record as being against charter schools "but that was then and this is now."
- Now that the City Council has passed the Implementation Plan for their Preschool program, when do we see the draft of the preschool partnership agreement with SPS (which seems to be the linchpin of the whole thing)?
- At the Hale BTA IV meeting, parents repeatedly stated that they were worried more money would go to Technology than to building repairs/upgrades. This seemed to baffle staff.
- Biggest quote from that BTA IV meeting? Flip Herndon saying, "The Board decides what is going to be on the list and what isn't." I'm not sure I believe that.
- Also at BTA IV meeting, the district is going to spend a mere $19M on Lincoln before it opens as a high school. I can hear the howls from parents whose children get assigned there from my office.
- Also at the BTA IV, apparently Ballard High has "some spaces that can be reconfigured." Anyone know what they might be?
- When will the District ever define "assessment" versus "test?" Because I'm not sure they are the same thing but even if they are, that is one definition that parents need.
- How is it at the Curriculum & Instruction meeting that Director McLaren didn't seem to know that Common Core and SBAC are connected?
- Interesting how now NCLB is spoken of, across the board, as a terrible law and yet somehow testing 3-8th graders seems to be retained in its reincarnation?
- On bad choices, interesting to hear talk at the C&I meeting on how less-than-useful MAP was. Oh how the times have changed.
- Need help figuring out which middle school social studies book to choose? I'll make it easy to pare it down to two. Pick the two that DON'T have companies advertised on the front cover.
- How is it that Director Blanford, in asking questions on how/why the Board passed a resolution against charter schools, couldn't figure out to go look at the old Board meetings where it was discussed? He had to be told by no less than three people that he could do that.
- Also at the same work session, Blanford seemed confused - even to the point of asking out loud - which Seattle children he represents. If he really is bewildered by who he represents, he might be in the wrong job.
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CT
Tomato, Tomahto,
SBAC, PARCC,
Let's call the whole thing off.
-NNNCr
The auto shop had closed at Ballard at some point before the move to Lincoln due to low enrollment.
When Ballard reopened, there was a lift installed in the shop, but no other equipment for an auto shop was furnished. There also was no money for an auto shop teacher.
Former Principal David Engel declared that he was not going to run the kind of high school that has an auto shop, and had the lift removed. In between the auto shop space and the wood shape space (next door) was a very small classroom that was meant to be shared by the two programs (for tests, lectures, etc, as necessary).
The space was basically unused the first three years Ballard was opened, though it was repurposed for the Maritime Acadamy classes shortly thereafter. What they are using it for now, I don't know.
You could probably carve three full size classrooms out of the auto shop plus the "shop classroom" space.
There is also the black box theatre drama space. This is in addition to the regular theatre and stage. Unclear if that room is getting full utilization, either.
northwesterner
Oh my.
"We don't have the programs/services" for those students and they get exited. Now THAT is allowed.. Those words were almost word for word what parents at the district's central region sped informational night were told. Parents were also told that if they changed the services they needed, they would be good to go to HCC. In other words, be a different person and we're happy to take you. The students have no way to even enroll... Sped heads off all enrollment at the pass, and rejects out the school assignment.
Sounds like the exact same stuff charters do, except parents feel better in the public school.
Another Parent
For Flip to casually blunder enrollment this badly and NO ONE to stop him when there is space available in 2 other middle schools and a simple non-construction solution is indicative of how poorly he performs his job.
Are teachers and students suppose to make the trek to Lincoln during passing period? Children leave their campus unsupervised and be expected to return unsupervised during their class schedule? If they do this this year, what about next? There's is not enough room at Lincoln. Does Flip even realize that?
The HIMS principal has no power to solve this, the HIMS PTSA won't try to solve this because there's no way for them to suggest how to reenvision enrollment without disenfranchising some, and Facilities can't solve it because their job is not to do enrollment but rather just to find space for whatever bodies Enrollment tells them are coming to that space, the Board can't solve it because they'll say they don't do 'program placement' and that just leaves Enrollment to solve, but they won't because they'll never admit their mistake, and they too would say they can't make placement decisions. Clearly Flip won't solve it because he fails at every turn, otherwise we wouldn't have to have this discussion in the first place.
A seperate thread, please? This unprecedented and unnecessary annex simply cannot happen. There are sustainable, less risky and less disruptive options.
SOS HIMS
Readers of this blog should be heartened by this news. Certainly I am.
-- Ivan Weiss
I'll put up threads on the other topics soon.
I guess there is a random room here and there on the ground floor near the lunchroom that's unused, but I'm just not seeing where all of these HIMS kids will be expected to fit as an annex. With three+ schools/programs using Lincoln, the building is pretty highly utilized. It will be curious to see where they will put HIMS kids at Lincoln if that ends up being the plan. This isn't an impossible thing, it's just going to be very interesting to see how it shakes out.
I think it's funny that this idea is being discussed now. Parents argued last year until they were blue in the face to let their HIMS/Eckstein kids graduate from their school instead of being ripped out and sent to JAMS. Parents suggested that HIMS students could walk across the street and use the classrooms at Lincoln as an annex to deal with the overcrowding. (This was before the decision to place Licton Springs in the building). The district said there was no way that HIMS kids could walk across the street to Lincoln, due to liability, travel time, which students would go there, etc. Funny that now Flip and others are back to talking about a HIMS annex, especially now that it will be much more complicated to make it work.
Ultimately, I'm really glad to hear that John Marshall won't be used as an interim site before WP is completed. I'm sure all of us with kids at HIMS will be glad to squish in wherever we can for the next two years until WP finished. If squishing in to the corners of Lincoln will help give HIMS kids one more year of stability, so be it. I'll volunteer to be out on 43rd St as a crossing guard during passing period, whatever it takes to retain some stability for everyone.
APP mom of 2
It appears Director McLaren is no longer up to speed on important issues impacting education. Fortunately, a candidate has registered to run in McLaren's district.
-- different strokes
Lincoln is pretty darn full. Full of what is a question that seems to be unclear but full as every nook and cranny in the building has been being used to solve a wide variety of small'ish capacity problems.
It is notable that during the BEX IV planning process that Lincoln was scheduled to be used as the interim location for both the Decatur property (Thornton Creek) school project AND the Olympic Hills rebuild.
Thornton Creek is now a build-in-place, despite the need to add even more portables for new homerooms next year. Olympic Hill triggered the opening of Cedar Park to be used as in interim location.
So if there is not enough room at Lincoln so that i can be used as an interim location, how can there be enough room for an annex???
An annex would need to be fairly sizable in order to be academically feasible, comply with union regulations for teachers and provide a middle school experience.
I concur.
An annex would have been a wonderful solution two years ago when there was adequate space at Lincoln. However, that was not a welcome conversation because there wasn't a big enough problem.
Last year's geo-split was predicated on the un-workability of the annex, once Lincoln had grown and Pinehurst was placed at Lincoln.
So now this year, the return of the annex conversation for the third year in a row, as a solution to the fundamental problem that Hamilton is a small middle school, that is promised to far too many students, is truly disrespectful of the families that navigated the split.
Didn't the John Marshall building serve as the 9th grade annex for Roosevelt years ago? It would seem as though they would need a somewhat-comparable amount of space to do a meaningful (full grade band?) annex for Hamilton?
@SOS HIMS
I'm assuming that you are implying there is room at JAMS for (more) Hamilton overflow? Please keep in mind that construction is not complete at JAMS. It cannot seat its future capacity of 960 students, as, is, without a ton of portables. Most of the capacity-generating work is due to happen before September 2015, so it is possible that there will be room by then, if all goes well, but there will be a bump in enrollment as the small 8th grade cohort moves out and a larger 6th grade moves in...so JAMS will not be under 800 kids next year, as it was this year.
- North-end Mom
I don't think an annex (if it's possible) would need to be for a full grade band. Couldn't kids move between buildings during their lunch break?
Buildings have a design capacity. This is the number where things work and they work well. In other words, things work as they were intended to work.
Hamilton was designed for 800 students. At 800 students, the library and computer rooms work well. The gym works well. The cafetorium works, not well, but OK.
The tricky thing about flex space is that you need some empty space to make it work well. In other words, you need space for the dominos to fall. When there is no extra space the sequencing that is built into the design of flex space works less-well.
Hamilton can handle 900 farily well. When HIMS first hit 900 students, there needed to be some building modification to the design to make it work.
At 1,000 students, there are some significant challenges. In other words, it can be made-to-work. Made to work requires more effort because you are no longer working WITH the design. At 1,000 students, you hit the tipping point.
Over 1,000 students, then all of a sudden, the building requires significant resources to simply be traffic cop, rather than be there for education. When HIMS enrollment went over 1,000 students, mitigation staffing was needed just to hold things together.
So you have a building designed for cohorts of about 250 - 300, or approximately 12 elementary school homerooms per cohort.
This school is then promised to FIVE elementary schools. BF Day, West Woodland, Greenlake, JSIS and McDonald. It is then promised to HC from McClure, Whitman and Wilson Pacific attendance areas. The math just does not work.
The thing for people to notice is that no HCC school has an "ACCESS" program. How can HCC students needing ACCESS be served? That is the question to ask. Also, how can SM3, behavior, students get HCC.? That also periodically comes up. Although TM has SM4, so far nobody has gotten any traction on getting services for HCC out of that staff which is dedicated to exclusion at all levels. They don't want to provide ANY Gen ed for students with disabilities either, in the plain old Gen ed program.... because the Gen ed students are a bad influence on the sped kids. Go figure.
Another Parent
I'm not sure what you are talking about.
There are children with various disabilities at ALL HCC sites. And there are children with disabilities served within HCC, just as one would expect. It is the law.
For example, in one of my children's classrooms at Lincoln, I know of 3 students served who clearly have IEPs. Our other Lincoln child also clearly has fellow students with IEPs. A little known fact: the front lawn was turned into the 'playground' because of the LRE and IDEA requirements triggered by a deaf and hard of hearing student (the concrete back was to noisy, so soft surface had to be found to be a play surface, which meant the front lawn).
2E students are served. There is an APP 2E group that meets.
SpEd family
WSDWG
Is it slamming HCC program to acknowledge that Sped students are counseled out or told to choose between appropriate SDI & HCC placement. It does happen. Regularly.
My 2e kid is in an HCC program. I got a phone call mid year saying that she was being pulled out of all HCC classes because they had to serve SDI with a model that could not fit into the HCC program. Many 2e parents in that school got those calls this winter. Given the choice to ditch the HCC program or ditch the sped services. This is not our first experience with this.
I also have emails from school administrative staff in several schools as I toured secondary schools, telling me that they would not serve my kid in sped & AL both. Certainly no inclusion or push-in services.
I don't think that is so different from how charter schools treat sped students.
Would it be more supportive of HCC to hide those things & pretend they don't happen? It would not be supportive of the sped students in HCC programs to do that. So who should we be trying to support by sweeping it under the rug, the administrators who are continuing this?
We may see 2e kids in our schools but you do not know what compromises they had to make to be there or how many were counseled out before they started.
-hcc/sped
I can't imagine they'll be gone for long, though.
Roosevelt Dad
"they will force families into IEP meetings, and then declare that the special ed services kids need just happen, fortuitously, to be the exact same ones they already have in the building"
Yes this a good description of a verifiable pattern of abuse many parents are experiencing.
2E parent
2E, I would like to see those if you feel you could pass them along. I'm at sss.westbrook@gmail.com
NNNCr, liked your parody. Any thoughts of writing something to Pink Floyd's Brick in the Wall?
Arch Stanton, yes, please post a SBAC top10 list. We could use some humor. I started a list and so far just have a top 3. Feel free to use or modify.
#1 Common Core for the Common folk
Common Core Standards and tests are only for public school students. If you are wealthy and can pay for private schools then you can bypass Common Core Standards and tests. Private school students can spend their time on enriching curriculum with music, art, PE and adequate time for lunch and recess.
#2 College and Career Ready
Common Core Standards emphasis on skills and testing those skills means there will be less time to learn content. Not to worry though, even if your child can no longer be a doctor, engineer or lawyer, you can rest assured that your child has the skills to get a part time minimum wage job grading Common Core tests.
#3 Cost Savings
School districts will continue to divert money to Pearson and other testing companies. This is necessary because they supply the tests, collect and sell data, and generate the curriculum for test preparation. The cost savings will come from the fact that schools will spend more time testing and on test preparation so there will be little to no time left to teach. Teachers will be turned into facilitators that can be employed at minimum wage. Additional cost savings will come from closing "failing" schools and diverting the money to charter schools.
Have a Happy Spring Break.
-nh
Just like McClure where, because of the length of testing, they will miss 12 classes of orchestra.
Just pointing out the current practice in sps isn't really better than charters.
Really Melissa, you don't need internal documents. Just notice the lack of variety in special ed programs in HCC buildings. That means that all students needing those programs, can't attend. It's darn simple.
Another Parent
I don't think anything in this district is "darn simple."
Here is a new document showing where they put all the elementary programs. Notice, they make it pretty hard for parents to find. This is because they want to be able to shove anyone, anywhere. Students needing any of these programs, must go to these schools. End of story. Where does that leave students who need any other service only offered at a single (or couple of) location?
But, yes awesome, if other people can find and daylight other "tactics" type procedures.
Another Parent
Parent
Parent
While it is true, I think, that SPS does not treat its sped students fairly in terms of program access (my guess is that there are problems at at least 3 levels -- downtown administration, building principals, and (some,not all) classroom teachers, it does NOT follow that "the current practice in sps isn't really better than charters." It may well be (and I suspect it is) far more likely that charters are just another giant step in the WRONG direction! Because while it is at least possible, in public schools, to rattle cages, write directors or (as I did -- just show up at your neighborhood school with your kid, a SPED plan and more energy than the building staff has to defeat it) -- it is virtually impossible to fight a charter with private backing (to go along with the public money), a board that you don't elect and can't influence (and may well be taking strongly ANTI-sped marching orders from some national organization), and a charter authorization authority in Washington who has NO responsibility for your child (unlike the SPS district -- which definitely DOES) and no reason to become inclined for taking your kid on if they don't have to -- which they don't.
Is it good now? No.
Is it "as bad as charters?" No.
Could expanded charters well make the placement and education of sped kids worse? Absolutely!
The ONLY thing that I think could help here would be if the state legislation provided that as soon as there are X numbers of charters in the state (or in a specific area, the charters -- as a whole -- must demonstrate a commitment to offering the full range of services -- to ALL sped kids. Don't want to serve "those kids?" Can't open more charters.
Do I think that the SPED community and their allies (who are few and not well funded) have the ability to bring this kind of legislation into existence? No. Unfortunately.
Jan
Another Parent
Many sped kids have issues that can be pretty easily addressed with minor modifications (extra time on papers and projects, help with note taking, spacing of exams, etc. But if a charter school simply elects to say --
"we don't provide those services" -- they are home free, and it appears that many charters do this pretty consistently. I guess my only point was -- there may be problems with SPED services in public schools as well as charters, but they are not equally problemmatic. Frpom what I can see, charter barriers (except in a rare few nonprofit charters that actually seek sped populations as part of their mission) are MUCH higher and MUCH more intractable.
Jan
As for Africatown returning to Mann, yes, that has been the plan from the start. That is the plan that was discussed at the few meetings the District had with the Africatown community.